Gods limitations

[Trailblazer]

So, your position is: "God can do anything, so long as it makes sense that such a thing can be done."

My position is that God can do anything, and it does not need to make sense to us whether or not such a thing can be done because God's ways are not our ways.

 

[vulcanlogician]

My position is that God can do anything, and it does not need to make sense to us whether or not such a thing can be done because God's ways are not our ways.

But, then anything goes according to your view. Why even say God exists? If a "puny human mind" thinks that God exists, it applies equally to them that they may be wrong because "God's ways are not our ways," and, in the grand scheme, they may not understand the meaning of "God exists" any more than your typical atheist.

 

[Brian2]

God does not create bachelors or married people so that is a moot point...
People have free will so they choose to be a bachelor or get married.

There is no such thing as a married bachelor since that is an oxymoron.

Good thinking 99.

 

[Brian2]

So, your position is: "God can do anything, so long as it makes sense that such a thing can be done."

And of course as humans we don't know what is impossible for God to do, all we know is what looks logically possible or impossible. So questions about what God can or cannot do really should be answered by God and not humans when it comes to things that look impossible to us humans.

 

[Trailblazer]

But, then anything goes according to your view. Why even say God exists? If a "puny human mind" thinks that God exists, it applies equally to them that they may be wrong because "God's ways are not our ways," and, in the grand scheme, they may not understand the meaning of "God exists" any more than your typical atheist.

I do not look at it that way. The reason I believe that God exists is because of the evidence. There is no proof that God exists but there is evidence, and since "God's ways are not our ways," we are not going to get the evidence our way, we will only get the evidence the way God chooses to provide it.

 

[rational experiences]

As a loving human self developing. I know what I want for family.

If a God is superior to me and my owned life being said by just thoughts then it would want greater than myself.

I wanted in study healing to heal my family. Knowing our origin parents recorded life memory. I saw. They gave me visions and stories. Far better than how we now lived.

Perfect health. Perfect bodies. Perfect spirits. Life existing that came out of the eternal gods body. Only after any heavens mass owned exact place.

Consciousness ours says I know our parents life came from it.

So had created creation as different mass and released history. Now evolved.

So we say as our owned consciousness God can do anything as God already did. In any review variant created creation...past tense always.

We make assessments we then make the spoken status. As thinkers. Which you ignore as personal humans only place. Thinking.

Just humans.

So I know the eternal would have us as all the same. But it cannot.

It's our brother the satanist scientist who doesn't want us to be the same.

Historic his mind reasoned about evil. We already taught why reactive God mass hurt life's biology.

It's about time you accepted his teaching quoting he cursed us by his satanic science practices.

 

[rational experiences]

Further realisation. When doing just a human man's assessment who virtually placed our human life continusnce human woman as eradicated. In thesis.

By his own zero space maths thesis. No human woman exists by your first thesis liars.

His Jesus assessment was just about himself.

And not our two holy parents terms. Both came out of the eternal.

You can't go back in as a human so he lied about just his self being eternal. Mind conscious sacrificed by brain prickling was taught.

How the first baby man adult human became the theist of known evils. Brain prickling itself by fallen burning star gain.

It's what innocent humans don't like discussing as a topic. As it's too scary. Yet it's part of the story itself.

The eternal we separated from. Yet own one highest eternal being as origin of consciousness. Unconditional love ...owned in its exact holy place.

Communicated us out of its life is just a memory we realise.

 

[rational experiences]

Gods terms. A human states God exists as it's greatest. Now.

Meaning what God is determined by humans it can't do anything about what's been changed. As we live God by our terms and it is always exact. Now. It's greatest.

What is less is less.

So science thoughts say evolution cooling is the law of future life gain.

As what cannot manifest now which we determine is gods greatest cannot.

For biology our mainly high percentage water cell status. Mineral bio chemicals. States...cooled evaporated water mass. Now. Or gods tears cried by our loss of life need to be put back as body mass.

For cellular regeneration and natural oxygenated mass supply. Bio living only. Not about energy whatsoever.

Proving our living supported mass is no longer present. Water oxygenation. Holy ox was the symbolism in science.

It owns no human argument as Sacrificed gods saviour meant God by mass was taken from us. A type of body of god...one type only as God owns many separated varied bodies says theists.

Saviour body sacrificed the greatest coldest ice.

Ice kept hot gases cooled and water cooled held to ground. Otherwise it mass shifts evaporates away.

Science enlarged burning gas mass above. Enlargement is for imagery. They took our saviour to cool sciences causes already. Above in the heavens body position. Just as taught already.

Why the church outlawed sciences beginnings Alchemy.

Our water cooled mass removed so water instead of ice interacts in all cooling as cooling phases. So it's one state less by terms holy body.

So flooding above us saved our life but does not support the human population as the family genesis.

Only a small amount of families healthy natural DNA now is expressed. The rest sick mutated being expressed by lack of water support. Lack of natural oxygenation for health.

Because of ground mass satanic science that removes cold fused history of the suns mass put as an attack of earths mass.... frozen in earth.

That term science law highest greatest frozen.

Science broke the cosmic held freeze law. They knew they had.

Pretty basic lying today just as before by inhumane greedy men of science. Who already knew with their rich brother always trying to be richer.

Greed superseded logic in human chosen behaviour our teaching by father.

 

[Heyo]

I do not look at it that way. The reason I believe that God exists is because of the evidence. There is no proof that God exists but there is evidence, and since "God's ways are not our ways," we are not going to get the evidence our way, we will only get the evidence the way God chooses to provide it.

You said above that logic doesn't apply to god. Logic is our tool to decide what is true and what is false. You've thrown that tool away. You have no way to decide what is evidence and what isn't.

 

[rational experiences]

Living naturally.

An intelligent natural logical human knows how to survive. To live.

Logic.

What anyone else states is logic....isn't.

If you want to argue then put your thoughts to the exact one self only human position. Only you own.

Instead of running with the group who prove they vie to be the only one best self.

If I look after myself first I'm intelligent.

If you can't look after yourself. Then I'm better than you. Logic says so. As you depend on my presence to assist you.

Meaning are the best better human to assist another self who can't.

Pretty basic human logic.

 

[Brian2]

You said above that logic doesn't apply to god. Logic is our tool to decide what is true and what is false. You've thrown that tool away. You have no way to decide what is evidence and what isn't.

I think that people who believe in determinism have thrown away the tool of logic but still we all use logic in our thinking.
By saying that God might know more than what our logic tells us is just saying something about God and His possible abilities and knowledge of things beyond what our logic might tell us and is not saying anything about logic per se.

 

[RabbiO]

Sorry this Question bothered you so much, wishing you a speedy recovery from the mental anguish and torment caused.

The question did not bother me, but thank you for your concern for my well being. I appreciated the compassionate nature of your response. Some others would have relished the opportunity to be condescendingly sarcastic.

 

[Heyo]

By saying that God might know more than what our logic tells us is just saying something about God and His possible abilities and knowledge of things beyond what our logic might tell us and is not saying anything about logic per se.

It isn't saying anything about logic - only about the one making the claim. It says that they don't care about what is true or possible, they only care about what they wish was true or possible.

 

[Trailblazer]

You said above that logic doesn't apply to god. Logic is our tool to decide what is true and what is false. You've thrown that tool away. You have no way to decide what is evidence and what isn't.

I have said that logic doesn't apply to the nature of God and God's actions, I did not say we cannot use logic as a tool to decide what makes sense. The way we can decide what is evidence and what isn't is by using reason.

 

[Heyo]

I have said that logic doesn't apply to the nature of God and God's actions, I did not say we cannot use logic as a tool to decide what makes sense. The way we can decide what is evidence and what isn't is by using reason.

Is it reasonable to assume that god is not reasonable?

 

[Trailblazer]

Is it reasonable to assume that god is not reasonable?

It is not reasonable to assume anything about God since we cannot know how God reasons.
What would be reasonable for God is not necessarily what humans consider reasonable.
Moreover, what is reasonable? What humans consider reasonable varies widely.

 

[rational experiences]

A human says as a scientist.

The power of God is not yet manifest.

Says it exactly as a human Theist for human only science.

The power he has theoried for only is relative to his machine. Want as a machine to force planetary mass to change for the machines only position.

To give a machine life but it's mechanical parts needs To move.

So it's all relative by humans for machines.

As the big con fool was men humans claiming that science knew everything about just a worded topic he chooses to relate by any human imposed subject.

A big con and always was.

As no man was a God ..God didn't own a name. Humans gave God names determined by their want. Practice of science.

So they first say the power I want is hidden and hasn't revealed itself yet. As I must break seals. Then a reactive time shift of mass occurs. I begin it myself says the scientist.

I then get what I want said man of science. For machines...inventions.

So when men who know in created creation no machine exists. To involve a machine in a thesis is total fakery by terms natural cosmic history.

As in cosmic history there isn't any machine.

As a machine first does not exist. Your exact human warning. Men wielding machines terms is not any God ...then destroy life on earth.

As sophists maths scientists just humans use cunning human contrivances only.

 

[stvdv]

Can God create a Rock he cannot lift

God is said to be:
"Smaller than the smallest"
AND
"Bigger than the biggest"

God "Bigger than the biggest" can create a Rock that God "Smaller than the smallest" cannot lift
@stvdvRF

 

[rational experiences]

God is said to be:
"Smaller than the smallest"
AND
"Bigger than the biggest"

God "Bigger than the biggest" can create a Rock that God "Smaller than the smallest" cannot lift
@stvdvRF

Rock earth cannot be lifted above its form...unless a mountain moved...volcano.

God can throw a rock at the earth and it fall as a small stone.