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GOD's mortality

TruthSearch101

New Member
If we were made in HIS image...

With the majority of the world believing in the GOD of the Old Testament...and with the varying beliefs to reincarnation, afterlife, etc...

I wonder if any believe this may also be the same for GOD...

Especially considering, if GOD is self existing, and would have therefore had to create HIMSELF.
 

arthra

Baha'i
If we were made in HIS image...

With the majority of the world believing in the GOD of the Old Testament...and with the varying beliefs to reincarnation, afterlife, etc...

I wonder if any believe this may also be the same for GOD...

Especially considering, if GOD is self existing, and would have therefore had to create HIMSELF.

Well in my belief the God of the Old Testament is the same God as the New Testament and the Qur'an and in the Baha'i Writings..So God manifests Himself in Messengers and Prophets that appear from age to age as humanity has need..but this is not reincarnation and in my religion God does not "incarnate" Himself in a body.

God doesn't "create Himself" or "die" or get "reborn". God is Self Subsistent but even as I wrote this it's important to bear some things in mind:

For example, if we form a conception of divinity as a living, almighty, self-subsisting, eternal being, this is only a concept apprehended by a human intellectual reality. It would not be the outward, visible reality which is beyond the power of human mind to conceive or encompass.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, p. 259

We as human beings are limited in our capacity to understand the Ineffable the Unkowable Essence:

All the people have formed a god in the world of thought, and that form of their own imagination they worship; ....Therefore consider: All the sects and peoples worship their own thought; they create a god in their own minds and acknowledge him to be the creator of all things, when that form is a superstition -- thus people adore and worship imagination.

That Essence of the Divine Entity and the Unseen of the unseen is holy above imagination and is beyond thought. Consciousness doth not reach It. Within the capacity of comprehension of a produced reality that Ancient Reality cannot be contained. It is a different world; from it there is no information; arrival thereat is impossible; attainment thereto is prohibited and inaccessible. This much is known: It exists and Its existence is certain and proven -- but the condition is unknown.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, p. 381
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
If we were made in HIS image...

With the majority of the world believing in the GOD of the Old Testament...and with the varying beliefs to reincarnation, afterlife, etc...

I wonder if any believe this may also be the same for GOD...

Especially considering, if GOD is self existing, and would have therefore had to create HIMSELF.

I can't speak for non-Jewish religions, but I think one thing that Judaism, Islam, and Christianity are agreed about is that God is eternal. Always has been, always will be.

FWIW, Judaism, at least, generally understands the idea of being made "in God's image" as referring to free will.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't think so. God is everything that exists, not some person sitting on a cloud. Death exists only in matter whereas God is Spirit. One of the characteristics of Spirit is eternity, meaning it was never created and can never be destroyed. This is based on my beliefs.
 

Zantiax

Member
I don't think so. God is everything that exists, not some person sitting on a cloud. Death exists only in matter whereas God is Spirit. One of the characteristics of Spirit is eternity, meaning it was never created and can never be destroyed. This is based on my beliefs.

God is Spirit. Could you clarify that?

Also, how do you know that God, if it exists, was never created and can never be destroyed?
 

TruthSearch101

New Member
I can't speak for non-Jewish religions, but I think one thing that Judaism, Islam, and Christianity are agreed about is that God is eternal. Always has been, always will be.

FWIW, Judaism, at least, generally understands the idea of being made "in God's image" as referring to free will.

So no one questions Gods beginning? If HE exists...How did HE get here?
Is there no relegion that speculate on this?
 

Zantiax

Member
So no one questions Gods beginning? If HE exists...How did HE get here?
Is there no relegion that speculate on this?

Reason 1: He doesn't have a beginning, he is eternal
Reason 2: People are too stupid to understand
Reason 3: He came into existence out of nothingness

They all got it figured out. No point in asking, really.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Reason 1: He doesn't have a beginning, he is eternal
Reason 2: People are too stupid to understand
Reason 3: He came into existence out of nothingness

They all got it figured out. No point in asking, really.

wait, are you talking about the origins of the universe?
;)
 

Zantiax

Member
Could've been :)

If we're honest: none of us have ANY idea about the origins of the univers OR the exisntence of a 'devinde being'.

(even though I personally think it's far more logic that there is NO divine being)
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
God is Spirit. Could you clarify that?

Also, how do you know that God, if it exists, was never created and can never be destroyed?

Who actually knows anything about God? I am speaking about God concepts that exist and have existed since ancient times. Based on those concepts, the OP musings are not possible.
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
I think gods are probably mortal in the sense that they can be killed by violence (probably by other gods), but I hope whichever one is responsible for us isn't dead yet. I have a few questions for it. I kind of assume that since we are still here it must be too, but one might have nothing to do with the other.
 

Zantiax

Member
I think gods are probably mortal in the sense that they can be killed by violence (probably by other gods), but I hope whichever one is responsible for us isn't dead yet. I have a few questions for it. I kind of assume that since we are still here it must be too, but one might have nothing to do with the other.

Cool story.
 
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