God's Name Removed from the Bible

[rusra02]

You're saying that the name is important, but not it's correct pronunciation... That doesn't make much sense to me. Why give the example in Ruth, where they vocalize the correct pronunciation of the name to one another, if it isn't important? How many variations exist between the four letters of the tetragrammaton? If everyone spoke their own variant of the name it would sound as if a variety of names were being spoken.

God's name is not in a pronunciation, or a spelling, it is in action. If you knew this, you would not even be able to take God's name in vain-- but demanding that everyone know and call on the tetragrammaton without its vocalization has proven itself vain. The fact that the eternal God allowed the pronunciation of His name to dissolve says something to me; it was being used in vain. The fact that Jesus did not reinstate, or use the tetragrammaton, solidifies this.

Why then, use Jesus name, or Jeremiah's, or countless other names that we have lost the ancient Hebrew pronunciation for?
God's Name is pronounced somewhat differently in different languages. The Spanish do not say Jehovah exactly as do those who speak English, but there is no doubt they are speaking of the same true God. What is really important, IMO, is to know the Person identified by that unique Name. That is why Jehovah has had his Name so prominently mentioned in the Holy Scriptures.
The facts show Jesus did use and honor God's name. He it was who told us to pray to God; "Let your Name be sanctified"', and who said in prayer to God;"I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. " (John 17:6)

 

[savagewind]

If there is a force or entity that fits the descriptor "god", then it has many names, all of which we've giving "him". I don't think it would need a name for itself.

If there is an entity greater than us then it would desire a fine reputation. If anyone looked up the Hebrew word for name it is what it means. REPUTATION. So if the highest power in reality has a bad reputation there is no hope for anything else.

 

[Nada]

Jesus plainly stated: “I have come in the name of my Father.” He also stressed that his works were done in his “Father’s name”

Languages and Dialects Containing the Divine Name in the Main Text of the Christian Greek Scriptures
Language or Dialect: Divine Name
Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehóa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak (Toba): Jahowa
Benga: Jěhova
Bolia: Yawe
Bube: Yehovah
Bullom So: Jehovah
Chácobo: Jahué
Cherokee: Yihowa
Chin (Hakha): Zahova
Chippewa: Jehovah
Choctaw: Chihowa
Croatian: Jehova
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Douala: Yehowa
Dutch: Jehovah
Efate (North): Yehova
Efik: Jehovah
English: Jehovah
Éwé: Yehowa
Fang: Jehovâ
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH
Ga: Iehowa
German: Jehovah; Jehova
Gibario (dialect of Kerewo): Iehova
Grebo: Jehova
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hebrew: יהוה
Hindustani: Yihováh
Hiri Motu: Iehova
Ho-Chunk (Winnebago): Jehowa
Ila: Yaave
Iliku (dialect of Lusengo): Yawe
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Kalanga: Yehova; Yahwe
Kalenjin: Jehovah
Kerewo: Iehova
Kiluba: Yehova
Kipsigis: Jehoba
Kiribati: Iehova
Kisonge: Yehowa
Korean: 여호와
Kosraean: Jeova
Kuanua: Ieova
Laotian: Yehowa
Lele: Jehova
Lewo: Yehova
Lingala: Yawe
Logo: Yehova
Lomongo: Yawe; Yova
Lonwolwol: Jehovah
Lugbara: Yehova
Luimbi: Yehova
Luna: Yeoba
Lunda: Yehova
Luo: Yawe
Luvale: Yehova
Malagasy: Jehovah; Iehôvah
Malo: Iova
Marquesan: Iehova
Marshallese: Jeova
Maskelynes: Iova
Mende: Yewoi
Mentawai: Jehoba
Meriam: Iehoua
Misima-Paneati: Iehova
Mizo: Jehovan; Jihova’n
Mohawk: Yehovah
Mortlockese: Jioua; Jiona
Motu: Iehova
Mpongwe (dialect of Myene): Jehova
Muskogee: Cehofv
Myene: Yeôva
Naga, Angami: Jihova
Naga, Konyak: Jihova
Naga, Lotha: Jihova
Naga, Mao: Jihova
Naga, Northern Rengma: Jihova
Naga, Sangtam: Jihova
Nandi: Jehova
Narrinyeri: Jehovah
Nauruan: Jehova
Navajo: Jîho’vah
Ndau: Jehova
Nembe: Jehovah
Nengone (or, Maré): Iehova
Ngando: Yawe
Ntomba: Yawe
Nukuoro: Jehova
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iáhve
Rarotongan: Jehova; Iehova
Rerep: Iova
Rotuman: Jihova
Sakao: Ihova; Iehova
Samoan: Ieova
Seneca: Ya’wĕn
Sengele: Yawe
Sesotho: Yehofa
Sie: Iehōva
Spanish: Jehová; Yahvé; YHWH; Yahweh
Sranantongo: Jehova
Sukuma: Yahuwa; Jakwe
Tahitian: Iehova
Teke-Eboo: Yawe
Temne: Yehṓfa; Yehofa
Thai: Yahowa
Toaripi: Jehova; Iehova
Tongan: Jehova; Jihova; Sihova
Tswana: Jehofa; Yehova; Yehofa
Umbundu: Yehova
Uripiv: Iova
Wampanoag: Jehovah
Xhosa: Yehova
Zande: Yekova
Zulu: Jehova; YAHWE
(In addition to those on this list, a number of languages and dialects use a form of the divine name in footnotes or in explanatory text.)

Over 120 languages
Deuteronomy 6:4
Ancient Hebrew text with the divine name appearing twice
Fragment of Deuteronomy 18:15, 16
First century B.C.E.
The Greek Septuagint translation with the divine name in Hebrew character

Deuteronomy 18:15, 16
Codex Alexandrinu
Divine name removed and replaced by KC and KY, abbreviated forms of the Greek word Ky′ri·os (Lord)
Acts 3:22, quoting Deuteronomy 18:15
New World Translation
20th century C.E.
The New World Translation restores the divine name
©jw.org. English Publications (2000-2014)

 

[savagewind]

Yeshua came in the reputation of יְהוָ֥ה and for the reputation of יְהוָ֥ה. Is this not true?

 

[Father Heathen]

If there is an entity greater than us then it would desire a fine reputation.

If there is an entity greater than us then it wouldn't have a ego in need of constant reassurance.

If anyone looked up the Hebrew word for name it is what it means. REPUTATION. So if the highest power in reality has a bad reputation there is no hope for anything else.

Reputation is based on character and conduct, all of which are anthropomorphic attributes. I.e. an attempt to make god in man's image.

 

[savagewind]

If there is an entity great than us then it wouldn't have a ego in need of constant reassurance.
.

Do you hear yourself sometimes? Spelling child! For goodness sakes.

 

[Father Heathen]

Do you hear yourself sometimes? Spelling child! For goodness sakes.

So flustered that you're nitpicking typos.

 

[Nada]

If there is an entity greater than us then it wouldn't have a ego in need of constant reassurance.



Reputation is based on character and conduct, all of which are anthropomorphic attributes. I.e. an attempt to make god in man's image.

When it says man was made in God's image,it does not mean that man was literally made to look like God.Thats a misconception.It actually says "in our image,in our likeness" What this is referring to is Gods attributes.Love,Wisdom,Justice and Power.God is a spirit,and spirits cannot be seen.Humans are not spirits.Humans have physical bodies.Many think that Jesus is God in the flesh.This is also incorrect.Colossians 1:15 says,"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." What this really means is that Jesus is the exact representation of God.Jesus possessed all the attributes or qualities of Jehovah God.Love,Wisdom,Justice and Power.This can be confirmed in this next scripture.

Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

Notice also it says "Invisible God"
Colossians 1:15 says,"The Son is the image of the invisible God,

If the Son was seen on earth,then how could man be made in God's image?

 

[Tabb]

Why would a series of letters held tightly together to form a name, matter to a god?

Exactly! Also if God created the entire Universe, why would he be so obsessed about one species of life on this third rock from the sun in this solar system which is a tiny speck in this Universe. Just trying to put this whole thing in prospective.

 

[Father Heathen]

When it says man was made in God's image,it does not mean that man was literally made to look like God.Thats a misconception.It actually says "in our image,in our likeness" What this is referring to is Gods attributes.Love,Wisdom,Justice and Power.God is a spirit,and spirits cannot be seen.Humans are not spirits.Humans have physical bodies.Many think that Jesus is God in the flesh.This is also incorrect.Colossians 1:15 says,"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." What this really means is that Jesus is the exact representation of God.Jesus possessed all the attributes or qualities of Jehovah God.Love,Wisdom,Justice and Power.This can be confirmed in this next scripture.

Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

Notice also it says "Invisible God"
Colossians 1:15 says,"The Son is the image of the invisible God,

If the Son was seen on earth,then how could man be made in God's image?

If it's sapience/sentience that's "god's image", then that makes far more sense than the notion that god is also a hominid, psychological/behavioral quirks and all.

 

[rusra02]

Exactly! Also if God created the entire Universe, why would he be so obsessed about one species of life on this third rock from the sun in this solar system which is a tiny speck in this Universe. Just trying to put this whole thing in prospective.

Why is God concerned about us? I think John 3:16 answers that question, as does 1 John 4:7-10. That is the correct perspective, IMO.

 

[Sleeppy]

Why then, use Jesus name, or Jeremiah's, or countless other names that we have lost the ancient Hebrew pronunciation for?
God's Name is pronounced somewhat differently in different languages. The Spanish do not say Jehovah exactly as do those who speak English, but there is no doubt they are speaking of the same true God. What is really important, IMO, is to know the Person identified by that unique Name. That is why Jehovah has had his Name so prominently mentioned in the Holy Scriptures.
The facts show Jesus did use and honor God's name. He it was who told us to pray to God; "Let your Name be sanctified"', and who said in prayer to God;"I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. " (John 17:6)

Jesus is not the only spelling, pronunciation, or even the only name given to the Son of Man. The importance is in the meaning of the name, which is 'God saves.' Immanuel is also attributed to Jesus, meaning 'God is with us'. The name Jesus is not required for salvation, God is. The name Immanuel is likewise not required for God to tabernacle among His children. Certain actions, of which faith is included, are important and required.

Jesus did not rely on the inscription or pronunciation of the tetragrammaton; he used action, which is why you see 'Name', and not the tetragrammaton. He wasn't going around pronouncing God's name to people who didn't care to hear it, he was acting in God's name, which allowed him to win their hearts and become a vessel of salvation.

 

[savagewind]

So flustered that you're nitpicking typos.

No! So flustered you don't spell. Me too. If a post upsets me I mispell too. Haha You say God is someone who needs his ego stroked. How do you know this?

 

[Nada]

If it's sapience/sentience that's "god's image", then that makes far more sense than the notion that god is also a hominid, psychological/behavioral quirks and all.

I was just explaining according to what the holy scriptures actually says and means.I do not expect for you to agree with anything I say.It is obvious where you stand by reading your name.Have a good one

 

[Father Heathen]

No! So flustered you don't spell. Me too. If a post upsets me I mispell too. Haha

Yeah, no.

You say God is someone who needs his ego stroked. How do you know this?

What? I've said the exact opposite of this.

 

[Father Heathen]

It is obvious where you stand by reading your name.Have a good one

That I'm very fatherly in a priestly sort of way?

 

[savagewind]

Reputation is based on character and conduct, all of which are anthropomorphic attributes. I.e. an attempt to make god in man's image.

Only if there is not The Person of God. If God truly does exist then God's reputation is a personal affair. If God is good the people who have an affair with The God will show it. God can not SHOW it as God is A Spirit. I believe God's son showed it best and complete. So for me the reputation of The God is great. God's reputation is not called YHVH. It is Love. YHVH is the means. Yeshua is the way.

 

[Nada]

That I'm very fatherly in a priestly sort of way?

Lol....

 

[savagewind]

Yeah, no.



What? I've said the exact opposite of this.

You said IF there was a god he would NOT need his ego stroked. There is A God. So......I have seen The God needs no stroking. Why did you say he didn't need stroking? It is true but what does it have to do with selling mustard?

 

[Sees]

Just a little bit of sweet justice Not nearly enough