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God's Name Removed from the Bible

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
You said IF there was a god he would NOT need his ego stroked. There is A God. So......I have seen The God needs no stroking. Why did you say he didn't need stroking? It is true but what does it have to do with selling mustard?

Thanks for the word-salad. It was delicious.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Jesus is not the only spelling, pronunciation, or even the only name given to the Son of Man. The importance is in the meaning of the name, which is 'God saves.' Immanuel is also attributed to Jesus, meaning 'God is with us'. The name Jesus is not required for salvation, God is. The name Immanuel is likewise not required for God to tabernacle among His children. Certain actions, of which faith is included, are important and required.

Jesus did not rely on the inscription or pronunciation of the tetragrammaton; he used action, which is why you see 'Name', and not the tetragrammaton. He wasn't going around pronouncing God's name to people who didn't care to hear it, he was acting in God's name, which allowed him to win their hearts and become a vessel of salvation.

Of course he did use God's name, and often quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures where God's name appears. To say that Jesus was acting in God's name but not using that name is simply not the case. Removing God's name from translations of the Bible is, IMO, an affront and sin against Jehovah, who had his name recorded some 7,000 times in the Holy Scriptures. God would not have his name mentioned so prominently, and then turn around and expunge his own Name. As Malachi 3:6 affirms; "For I am Jehovah; I do not change."
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Does your name, and the person it represents, matter to you? One of the first things we learn about a person is their name. How could we ever know the true God without knowing his name? How could we differentiate the true God from the many fake, nonexistent gods worshipped? Jehovah respects his name and reputation, and wants people to know his name, IMO. For one example, Psalm 83:18 states; "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
To remove God's Name from the Bible is an affront, and a gross act of dishonesty and disrespect, IMO.
"Jehovah" isn't God's name, in the sense you mean. "Jehovah" is a form of the tetragrammaton, taken from a German translation. :foot:
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Bold empty claim

Bold, yes. Empty? Please explain. Thank you. I'll try. I was thinking of a ball or a bubble of which the inside would seem empty. It isn't. Air is something. I think there is no empty in the universe. Is there? So there you have it! YHVH IS empty.
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Yes...God's true name has been removed from the bible.Jehovah is God's name.YHVH,Yahweh,Yehowah.

Jehovah /dʒɨˈhoʊvə/ is a Latinization of the Hebrew יְהֹוָה, a vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the proper name of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible, which has also been transcribed as "Yehowah" or "Yahweh".

Jehovah has been used for many centuries as the name of the God of Israel.

Gods true name has been removed from almost all bibles.The King James Version tried to remove it all but failed.They left it in the 1611 version 4 times.It appears at:

Exodus 6:3 King James Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Psalm 83:18 King James Bible
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Isaiah 12:2 King James Bible
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.


Isaiah 26:4 King James Bible
Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

So we know it has been used in the King James Version since 1611.
Thats 403 years.

Some scholars say the name Jehovah has been used for the last almost 1,000 years.

Early modern translators disregarded the practice of reading Adonai (or its equivalents in Greek and Latin, Κύριος and Dominus)[21] in place of the Tetragrammaton and instead combined the four Hebrew letters of the Tetragrammaton with the vowel points that, except in synagogue scrolls, accompanied them, resulting in the form Jehovah.[22] This form, which first took effect in works dated 1278 and 1303, was adopted in Tyndale's and some other Protestant translations of the Bible.[23] In the 1611 King James Version, Jehovah occurred seven times.[24] In the 1885 English Revised Version, the form "Jehovah" occurs twelve times. In the 1901 American Standard Version the form "Je-ho’vah" became the regular English rendering of the Hebrew יהוה, all throughout, in preference to the previously dominant "the LORD", which is generally used in the King James Version.[25] It is also used in Christian hymns such as the 1771 hymn, "Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah".[26]


Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And yet, in Exodus, when Moses asks God's name, God replies, "I AM," not "Jehovah."
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Why then, use Jesus name, or Jeremiah's, or countless other names that we have lost the ancient Hebrew pronunciation for?
God's Name is pronounced somewhat differently in different languages. The Spanish do not say Jehovah exactly as do those who speak English, but there is no doubt they are speaking of the same true God. What is really important, IMO, is to know the Person identified by that unique Name. That is why Jehovah has had his Name so prominently mentioned in the Holy Scriptures.
The facts show Jesus did use and honor God's name. He it was who told us to pray to God; "Let your Name be sanctified"', and who said in prayer to God;"I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. " (John 17:6)
If the name is so very important, don't you think God would like for us to pronounce it correctly?
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Of course he did use God's name, and often quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures where God's name appears. To say that Jesus was acting in God's name but not using that name is simply not the case. Removing God's name from translations of the Bible is, IMO, an affront and sin against Jehovah, who had his name recorded some 7,000 times in the Holy Scriptures. God would not have his name mentioned so prominently, and then turn around and expunge his own Name. As Malachi 3:6 affirms; "For I am Jehovah; I do not change."

That's the thing; you think by exchanging the tetragrammaton with God, or LORD, all the other words which detail who God is, and what His actions were, are somehow being voided. The tetragrammaton is mentioned 7000 times in one book, formulated among one culture/nation, of whom not one knows the pronunciation thereof.. And you don't understand that you are voiding the tens of billions of God's sons and daughters who have existed on Earth without ever seeing, hearing, or pronouncing this particular name?

I won't be able to convince you, but God's will is done. If God wants His name to be known among His image, He has done it, and is doing it. There are 7 billion current instances of Adam's name written in the DNA of mankind, and yet Jesus called the Most High our Father. I have to assume the name is impossible not to know, in the same way that God's love is written in the hearts of man, from the least unto the greatest. If you disagree, you make it your mission to do what God hasn't.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I have heard this one. If you speak gods true name backwards you undo creation. It is a goood thing nobody accidently ran accross the right syllables for that one.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have heard this one. If you speak gods true name backwards you undo creation. It is a goood thing nobody accidently ran accross the right syllables for that one.

Interesting. To say such a thing is to realize God is what it is. The opposite of that it is is what it isn't. I think we all know it is. Does anyone think all of it isn't? Even if it is all someone's dream, it is. Isn't it? It is not possible to remove God's reputation from the Bible or from anything at all because God is what it is. The physical reality is not The I AM. All but the physical reality is God.
 

mikklaf

New Member
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So the name Jehovah has been used a lot earlier then some people here suggest.
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
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So the name Jehovah has been used a lot earlier then some people here suggest.

You put those words in quotes but everyone knows it wasn't English that they spoke. No one is claiming YHVH is not in The Bible. Jehovah isn't. When whomever translated YHVH LORD they were raising The God up not putting The God down. They were communicating the FACT that The I AM is Lord. Christ the head of every man; God the head of Christ means God is LORD. A Lord is to obey.
 
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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Does your name, and the person it represents, matter to you? One of the first things we learn about a person is their name. How could we ever know the true God without knowing his name? How could we differentiate the true God from the many fake, nonexistent gods worshipped? Jehovah respects his name and reputation, and wants people to know his name, IMO. For one example, Psalm 83:18 states; "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
To remove God's Name from the Bible is an affront, and a gross act of dishonesty and disrespect, IMO.

Well, maybe they were afraid that someone might have had the idea to call Jehovah things like the flying spaghetti monster, creting thereby a big confusion.

Who would know what is what if the name is so important, otherwise?

Ciao

- viole
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
The physical reality is not The I AM. All but the physical reality is God.

I go further to say there isnt anything but god. Is there something above a physical reality, I just call the whole thing reality, physical spiritual or whatever kind it might be.

The easiest thing to say what god is not. I say god is his creation, I dont think it lowers him in any way, since god is also omniscient and omnipresent.

There is contention as to whether god actually created or merely transformed. The trinity dogma hints that god needed to use a transformation method via the first begotten, the word was the creation/creator. God created through that existence.
 

mikklaf

New Member
***staff edit***

Calling God by a title, like 'Lord' seems wrong when he got a name. At least IMHO :)
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I go further to say there isnt anything but god. Is there something above a physical reality, I just call the whole thing reality, physical spiritual or whatever kind it might be.

The easiest thing to say what god is not. I say god is his creation, I dont think it lowers him in any way, since god is also omniscient and omnipresent.

There is contention as to whether god actually created or merely transformed. The trinity dogma hints that god needed to use a transformation method via the first begotten, the word was the creation/creator. God created through that existence.

I can't say God is reality because parents kill their own children.
 
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