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God's Name Removed from the Bible

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I read an article recently that mentioned that the names of false gods can be found in the Bible; Dagon, Baal, Bel, and others. However, the true God's Name, which occurs some 7,000 times in the Bible, has been removed in many Bible translations. Since the true God had his Name placed in the Holy Scriptures so many times, I think it is unpardonable that his name has been removed, especially by those who claim to represent him. How would you like your name removed from a document you authored? What do you think?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I suppose I should begin by asking him what that True Name is, and if you have some idea of why people would remove it, what has been used in its place, and how meaningful the change is.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I suppose I should begin by asking him what that True Name is, and if you have some idea of why people would remove it, what has been used in its place, and how meaningful the change is.

His name changed with the factual definitions men keep changing.


The Abrahamic god as we know it, was factually born in Canaanite mythology.

Israelites were factually polytheistic.

Then two gods were factually fused together as one god, El and Yahweh.

Yahweh was later defined as the only god by a king. Political process.

So the early bible has two different names that were redacted into one god. Elohim was used to remove traces of El, and Elohims translation as well as El's translation changed due to these redactions so it would look like one god.


Then he name was refused to be spoken

then they called him lord


then they added jesus as a son


Then a court hearing redefined god again as the trinity.


Then islam redefined god



john smith redefined god



They are all wrong :facepalm:
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
His name changed with the factual definitions men keep changing.


The Abrahamic god as we know it, was factually born in Canaanite mythology.

Israelites were factually polytheistic.

Then two gods were factually fused together as one god, El and Yahweh.

Yahweh was later defined as the only god by a king. Political process.

So the early bible has two different names that were redacted into one god. Elohim was used to remove traces of El, and Elohims translation as well as El's translation changed due to these redactions so it would look like one god.


Then he name was refused to be spoken

then they called him lord


then they added jesus as a son


Then a court hearing redefined god again as the trinity.


Then islam redefined god



john smith redefined god



They are all wrong :facepalm:

Factually, I don't think you have your "facts" correct, at least not about the True God.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Factually, I don't think you have your "facts" correct, at least not about the True God.

Well then, I don't think you have the education then.

because if you did, you would understand what the facts were, and then you could at least try and refute the facts, but you attack the messenger out of desperation.


Thanks for playing.


Every thing I posted is substantiated.

History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israelite monotheism evolved gradually out of pre-existing beliefs and practices of the ancient world.[76] The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved[77] and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[78] Its major deities were not numerous – El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[79] By the time of the early Hebrew kings, El and Yahweh had become fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult


like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved


El and Yahweh had become fused


Israelite monotheism evolved
 

outhouse

Atheistically
�� Saint Atheist ��;3955659 said:
Why would a series of letters held tightly together to form a name, matter to a god?

Its never been about what a god thinks

only what people think
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
�� Saint Atheist ��;3955659 said:
Why would a series of letters held tightly together to form a name, matter to a god?

Does your name, and the person it represents, matter to you? One of the first things we learn about a person is their name. How could we ever know the true God without knowing his name? How could we differentiate the true God from the many fake, nonexistent gods worshipped? Jehovah respects his name and reputation, and wants people to know his name, IMO. For one example, Psalm 83:18 states; "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
To remove God's Name from the Bible is an affront, and a gross act of dishonesty and disrespect, IMO.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well then, I don't think you have the education then.

because if you did, you would understand what the facts were, and then you could at least try and refute the facts, but you attack the messenger out of desperation.


Thanks for playing.


Every thing I posted is substantiated.

History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israelite monotheism evolved gradually out of pre-existing beliefs and practices of the ancient world.[76] The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved[77] and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[78] Its major deities were not numerous – El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[79] By the time of the early Hebrew kings, El and Yahweh had become fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult


like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved


El and Yahweh had become fused


Israelite monotheism evolved

Sorry, but my education is not based on Wikipedia.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Jehovah respects his name

.

:biglaugh:


That's why he was NEVER called that originally, and was not called that for over a thousands years and possibly 2000 years!!! after his creation .:facepalm: 1500 years at minimum!

Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most scholars believe "Jehovah" to be a late (c. 1100 CE) hybrid form derived by combining the Latin letters JHVH with the vowels of Adonai, but there is some evidence that it may already have been in use in Late Antiquity (5th century).
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Does your name, and the person it represents, matter to you? One of the first things we learn about a person is their name. How could we ever know the true God without knowing his name? How could we differentiate the true God from the many fake, nonexistent gods worshipped? Jehovah respects his name and reputation, and wants people to know his name, IMO. For one example, Psalm 83:18 states; "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
To remove God's Name from the Bible is an affront, and a gross act of dishonesty and disrespect, IMO.
Humans care because we're small and weak. That doesn't explain why Almighty God would feel attached to a tiny string of sounds or symbols.
You and I could agree that (0-0) represents the image of God that you believe in. That won't limit God to it. The idea that humans can actually tell me God's name sounds more like hubris than respect.

As to the OP, the question is why someone did this. Maybe they think putting God's name on perishable paper is sinful. Wouldn't be the oddest idea anyone ever came up with about religion.

Tom
 

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
His name changed with the factual definitions men keep changing.


The Abrahamic god as we know it, was factually born in Canaanite mythology.

Israelites were factually polytheistic.

Then two gods were factually fused together as one god, El and Yahweh.

Yahweh was later defined as the only god by a king. Political process.

So the early bible has two different names that were redacted into one god. Elohim was used to remove traces of El, and Elohims translation as well as El's translation changed due to these redactions so it would look like one god.


Then he name was refused to be spoken

then they called him lord


then they added jesus as a son


Then a court hearing redefined god again as the trinity.


Then islam redefined god



john smith redefined god



They are all wrong :facepalm:

:biglaugh:


That's why he was NEVER called that originally, and was not called that for over a thousands years and possibly 2000 years!!! after his creation .:facepalm: 1500 years at minimum!

Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most scholars believe "Jehovah" to be a late (c. 1100 CE) hybrid form derived by combining the Latin letters JHVH with the vowels of Adonai, but there is some evidence that it may already have been in use in Late Antiquity (5th century).

Well Said!!!

Does your name, and the person it represents, matter to you? One of the first things we learn about a person is their name. How could we ever know the true God without knowing his name? How could we differentiate the true God from the many fake, nonexistent gods worshipped? Jehovah respects his name and reputation, and wants people to know his name, IMO. For one example, Psalm 83:18 states; "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth."
To remove God's Name from the Bible is an affront, and a gross act of dishonesty and disrespect, IMO.

What is the "true name God" in your opinion? Jehovah? If so why? What about the names used for that same entity prior to Jehovah being used? If you don't believe that Jehovah is the same entity described by those other names, can you provide some evidence of when the name Jehovah began to be used, and how it came about?

Sorry, but my education is not based on Wikipedia.

Maybe you should use Wikipedia a little bit more, it is a great source of information that will expose you to many perspectives that you might not otherwise be exposed to. It is also a pretty reliable source, as long as you check that the article has citations, and those citations are credible.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Humans care because we're small and weak. That doesn't explain why Almighty God would feel attached to a tiny string of sounds or symbols.
You and I could agree that (0-0) represents the image of God that you believe in. That won't limit God to it. The idea that humans can actually tell me God's name sounds more like hubris than respect.

As to the OP, the question is why someone did this. Maybe they think putting God's name on perishable paper is sinful. Wouldn't be the oddest idea anyone ever came up with about religion.

Tom

I believe God does attach great importance to his Name. Otherwise, why have it recorded 7,000 times? For one example of many, at Malachi 1:11 God says; "For from the rising of the sun to its setting, my name will be great among the nations. In every place sacrifices will be made to smoke, and offerings will be made to my name, as a pure gift; because my name will be great among the nations,” says Jehovah of armies." The first thing Jesus taught us to pray for, in the Lord's Prayer, is "“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified." (Matthew 6:9) I believe these and many other statements in the Bible show God's name is important to him and to us.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Giving God a name actually cheapens His 'name', in my opinion. We're one species, of about 8 million.. And of 7 billion of God's human children, only 9 million speak Hebrew. Of those speaking Hebrew, 0 know the actual vocalization of the tetragrammaton. It is lost. So, when we have discussions where people attempt to pin a specific culture's name on the Most High, we end up with arguments like these with no effective purpose but to further alienate one another.

I honestly believe that if we were created in God's 'image', we knew God's name before birth, and before we could even speak or be heard. Humble yourself.
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Keep in mind that people were not to take the name of God in vain or the taboo of even speaking the name. Hence people use the word God, G-D, Father, Lord, etc.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
I think most of it was trying to impersonal God during the rise of monotheism, only
Jews may know. Everything they knew and was personalized about their God was
annihilated, to my knowledge. But it seems most of it was by YHWH's instruction during
the exodus.

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As for the false Gods, this was nearly every other God with the reformation of the Kingdom of Heaven.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I think .


You should read up and learn what your posting about.


The exodus is mythology, and factually not a historical event.


Monotheism did not start even at 622 BC when King Josiahs reforms to monotheism took place.

It took hundreds of years for it to become orthodox belief in Judaism.


Monotheism as orthodox was not until roughly 200-400 BCE


only
Jews may know

False

They did not even know their own heritage, let alone be able to define the mythology with any reliability.



You fail to recognize only man defines god, and that definition has been constantly changing since monotheism started.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
You should read up and learn what your posting about.


The exodus is mythology, and factually not a historical event.


I believe the exodus happened and the foundation of Judeo monotheism was
set during the exodus with YHWH's instruction to Moses.

I'm not even a Jew or monotheist.

That's part of the story, outhouse, along with your historical facts with Israeli
Kings enforcing the conversion, the monotheism.

Only Man defines God, I'm not a monotheist and God defines God for me.

Let's not get pretentious here, I'm just posting what I know and I know the
Jews demolished nearly ever defining aspect of YHWH and made him
omnipresent. You should should know they destroyed the God and remade
him in their image.

As far as the exodus event I think Egypt was razed by an Army
lead by YHWH, as a General. Whether it was Roman, Greek, Irish,
English or German is on the back burner, I'm working on something crucial. jk

I'm not working on that.
 
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