Spiderman
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Oh, that is rare... .fortunate you! You have been blessed. What a gift!
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Gonna pull an all nighter at a cemetery
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VioletVortex
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People are individuals. You can't speak for "the dead" as a unit like that.
VioletVortex
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It's their right to do so. It pisses me off, but they can do so when I'm not around. It's rather intrusive.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
True, I don't speak for all of them.
Thanks for pointing that out... Not all of them want attention, veneration, or companionship.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Nothing like that. I have analyzed my thoughts and my situation. Clear thinking brings one happiness.Oh, that is rare... .fortunate you! You have been blessed. What a gift!
Yeah, people like to think that they will be remembered and honored even after their deaths. That is the idea of ancestor worship, but these are old traditions forgotten/likely to be forgotten in future. I perform ancestor worship (Shrāddha), though I know I would not be remembered by my progeny. I do not mind it. Things change, change is the only constant in the world.
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I think you should pursue your passion. Did you locate a graveyard yet where you might be able to do so? What about a tomb of a Saint?
I am a Hindu, some Hindus say you are contaminated yourself in a graveyard, but other Hindus actually do meditate in a graveyard even if most Hindus burn on the pyre after death of the body. There are yogis and some Shaktas of Kali and such, who do so.
Now let me give an example of some of my own relatives who are Hindu. Though not a graveyard, these two examples are tombs. Of Saints or Savants, Healers, dead and in a tomb. One in Bombay-Mumbai India of Haji Ali (Peer Haji Ali Shah Bukhari a wealthy merchant who gave away wealth) and one in Calcutta-Kolkata India of “Maulali” and, get this – both of the tombs are Muslim and not Hindu.
All sorts of blessings, cures and such have been attributed to visiting these tombs, I have not been to either however and may be spelling Maulali incorrectly. Though I have been to neither, my relatives have and praise powers of the tombs. In fact I oft wear a little brass tube sealed on each end with wax and strung with black thread around my wrist for powers and help. Inside the little brass tube is printed in tiny print a prayer (likely a Muslim prayer!) somehow related to the deceased in the tomb.
I myself, when a teen, me and my friend Peter who was a Catholic would visit a very, very old graveyard at night located next to a Nunnery (spelled correctly?) and Mission. Here we would sit in the graveyard and meditate on the Moon God. VERY POWERFUL! We would also be visited by living animals such as owls that would add to the aura. Peter said he saw the Virgin Mary, but I never did but I did feel the presence of a Goddess which I called “Lok” for some reason (planet) and a form of Lakshmi actually with an Owl.
However – we both were chased by Nuns once when we went way beyond the graveyard, and into an area of the Nunnery where there was a little “booth” stand alone and inside Virgin Mary with artwork and candles lit at nighttime. We went inside the “booth” and got noticed and the nun shouted then got other nuns and they started to haul after us, but we had bikes and escaped. We only went back to the graveyard one more time at that location but I did visit it in my 20’s several times during daylight, but I do recall parking in front of it not far away, at night, and meditation on the peaks of some of the tombs with the moon in the sky above it. Very powerful.
So I would suggest a FULL MOON.
Good luck, on your adventure!
I am a Hindu, some Hindus say you are contaminated yourself in a graveyard, but other Hindus actually do meditate in a graveyard even if most Hindus burn on the pyre after death of the body. There are yogis and some Shaktas of Kali and such, who do so.
Now let me give an example of some of my own relatives who are Hindu. Though not a graveyard, these two examples are tombs. Of Saints or Savants, Healers, dead and in a tomb. One in Bombay-Mumbai India of Haji Ali (Peer Haji Ali Shah Bukhari a wealthy merchant who gave away wealth) and one in Calcutta-Kolkata India of “Maulali” and, get this – both of the tombs are Muslim and not Hindu.
All sorts of blessings, cures and such have been attributed to visiting these tombs, I have not been to either however and may be spelling Maulali incorrectly. Though I have been to neither, my relatives have and praise powers of the tombs. In fact I oft wear a little brass tube sealed on each end with wax and strung with black thread around my wrist for powers and help. Inside the little brass tube is printed in tiny print a prayer (likely a Muslim prayer!) somehow related to the deceased in the tomb.
I myself, when a teen, me and my friend Peter who was a Catholic would visit a very, very old graveyard at night located next to a Nunnery (spelled correctly?) and Mission. Here we would sit in the graveyard and meditate on the Moon God. VERY POWERFUL! We would also be visited by living animals such as owls that would add to the aura. Peter said he saw the Virgin Mary, but I never did but I did feel the presence of a Goddess which I called “Lok” for some reason (planet) and a form of Lakshmi actually with an Owl.
However – we both were chased by Nuns once when we went way beyond the graveyard, and into an area of the Nunnery where there was a little “booth” stand alone and inside Virgin Mary with artwork and candles lit at nighttime. We went inside the “booth” and got noticed and the nun shouted then got other nuns and they started to haul after us, but we had bikes and escaped. We only went back to the graveyard one more time at that location but I did visit it in my 20’s several times during daylight, but I do recall parking in front of it not far away, at night, and meditation on the peaks of some of the tombs with the moon in the sky above it. Very powerful.
So I would suggest a FULL MOON.
Good luck, on your adventure!
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Usually when the spirits are present, body temperature goes up, pleasant odors, music in the head, start seeing beautiful creatures , people, landscapes, water, or structures, sometimes there are tears, an increase in energy and joy.
Other times it's the opposite. Energy goes way down, feel lethargic, cold, weak , disoriented, feeling of impending doom, sorrow, and literally feeling like I have something rotting inside me.
It could be those are demons, but when it happens I'm reminded of Mother Teresa holding the smelly, rotting lepers in the gutters of Calcutta, and I wonder if im holding and consoling some souls who are not damned but rather in a state of healing, purification, and were unloved and abandoned in this life.
If a skeptic tells me it's all in my head, I'm open to that possibility but not convinced for a second, because experiences like this didn't happen till recently in life and I wasn't asking for it or seeking it.
Also, the experience usually doesn't happen when I want it to. I've tried many times to recreate the experience, even tried to use drugs to recreate it but am unable to. The imagination can produce something powerful at times but it is always a weak , dissapointing, and unremarkable counterfeit.
It happens when it happens and often at the times I'm begging God or the spirits to enter most fervent and longingly, nothing happens.
This is why im convinced it's someone else's decision and they direct the thoughts, images, manifestation, or inspiration. Meaning, if it is coming to me without any effort or thinking from my end, that is when im convinced it's not me .
When the darkness and death enters my voice can change and I can start cackling and wanting to walk on all fours like an animal, display weird postures, but not harm anyone or do anything evil or uncharitable. I'm still just as compassionate and good-willed and want to serve and obey God at those times which tells me it isn't something Demonic.
It also isn't possession either. It's more, there is a strong feeling of being compelled and that I have to yield to the inspiration and hand the stearing wheel over , cooperate, be still , and listen.
Possession on the hand would be an unwanted force completely in control. I've had that happen once but it was under the influence, so it could have been the drugs entirely or a bit of both.
Other times it's the opposite. Energy goes way down, feel lethargic, cold, weak , disoriented, feeling of impending doom, sorrow, and literally feeling like I have something rotting inside me.
It could be those are demons, but when it happens I'm reminded of Mother Teresa holding the smelly, rotting lepers in the gutters of Calcutta, and I wonder if im holding and consoling some souls who are not damned but rather in a state of healing, purification, and were unloved and abandoned in this life.
If a skeptic tells me it's all in my head, I'm open to that possibility but not convinced for a second, because experiences like this didn't happen till recently in life and I wasn't asking for it or seeking it.
Also, the experience usually doesn't happen when I want it to. I've tried many times to recreate the experience, even tried to use drugs to recreate it but am unable to. The imagination can produce something powerful at times but it is always a weak , dissapointing, and unremarkable counterfeit.
It happens when it happens and often at the times I'm begging God or the spirits to enter most fervent and longingly, nothing happens.
This is why im convinced it's someone else's decision and they direct the thoughts, images, manifestation, or inspiration. Meaning, if it is coming to me without any effort or thinking from my end, that is when im convinced it's not me .
When the darkness and death enters my voice can change and I can start cackling and wanting to walk on all fours like an animal, display weird postures, but not harm anyone or do anything evil or uncharitable. I'm still just as compassionate and good-willed and want to serve and obey God at those times which tells me it isn't something Demonic.
It also isn't possession either. It's more, there is a strong feeling of being compelled and that I have to yield to the inspiration and hand the stearing wheel over , cooperate, be still , and listen.
Possession on the hand would be an unwanted force completely in control. I've had that happen once but it was under the influence, so it could have been the drugs entirely or a bit of both.
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Cassandra
Active Member
My view,
You call yourself Pagan and Catholic but you seem to show little true understanding of these traditions and the ideas and rituals around death. So what are you?
In every main culture there is always also counter culture. Larger traditions are generally based on accepted views and sane behavior, where counter culture people do all kind of weird things and go against the grain. The people in them are deviants with different longings. They are different, go against the grain, but want to be accepted as equal. That is the contradiction. They go against main stream ideas and behavior, but want acceptance for their own. Satanism is nice example of such a counter culture. It is has an Abrahamic background, but goes against core ideas.
I think what you are doing is actually harmful for
1 - yourself
2 - people that follow your example
3 - the people in the neighborhoud
4 - spirits on their journey
5 - the familiy of the spirits
In my view, your understanding of the subject is severely lacking and you are full of dangerously simplistic ideas. Sorry but to me you come across as a self-kicker and a sensationalist, a vlogger from the cemetery. That seems to be enough on social media to get a lot of likes these days.
I am not even going to explain you why I think this, because the less sensationalists know about spirits the better. It makes them only more dangerous when they mix more truth and facts in their fabrications.
I really wonder. What is the deal here? You want followers to mess up their mind so they can be healed through your church “exorcism” and brought into the fold like you? That would be absolutely ruthless. Alas, unsane religious fanatics are also part of the counter culture and people do well to stay away from them. You have Christian and Christian. One is sane and the other is not, even if they use the same label.
Personally I would never trust a guy with your credentials, especially when he goes raving about God. Some Christians like to make it believe, when a guy mixes in “God” in his fabrications then it suddenly is all legit and we have to believe him. That is the "seal of truth", because evil people do not do that, they are all atheists. Like Dracula they are afraid of the cross.
In reality the most dangerous people often live in all kind of weird religious delusions often based on their own interpretation of scripture. Nearly all Serial killers have a fundamentalist background and tie their murders in with their perceived relationship with God. When people mix weird behavior and ideas in with God and feel protected or sanctified, then you want to stay as far away as possible from them, even more if they have a criminal and mental institutional record.
When they manipulate your emotions with stories that make you sob, run even harder!
You call yourself Pagan and Catholic but you seem to show little true understanding of these traditions and the ideas and rituals around death. So what are you?
In every main culture there is always also counter culture. Larger traditions are generally based on accepted views and sane behavior, where counter culture people do all kind of weird things and go against the grain. The people in them are deviants with different longings. They are different, go against the grain, but want to be accepted as equal. That is the contradiction. They go against main stream ideas and behavior, but want acceptance for their own. Satanism is nice example of such a counter culture. It is has an Abrahamic background, but goes against core ideas.
I think what you are doing is actually harmful for
1 - yourself
2 - people that follow your example
3 - the people in the neighborhoud
4 - spirits on their journey
5 - the familiy of the spirits
In my view, your understanding of the subject is severely lacking and you are full of dangerously simplistic ideas. Sorry but to me you come across as a self-kicker and a sensationalist, a vlogger from the cemetery. That seems to be enough on social media to get a lot of likes these days.
I am not even going to explain you why I think this, because the less sensationalists know about spirits the better. It makes them only more dangerous when they mix more truth and facts in their fabrications.
I really wonder. What is the deal here? You want followers to mess up their mind so they can be healed through your church “exorcism” and brought into the fold like you? That would be absolutely ruthless. Alas, unsane religious fanatics are also part of the counter culture and people do well to stay away from them. You have Christian and Christian. One is sane and the other is not, even if they use the same label.
Personally I would never trust a guy with your credentials, especially when he goes raving about God. Some Christians like to make it believe, when a guy mixes in “God” in his fabrications then it suddenly is all legit and we have to believe him. That is the "seal of truth", because evil people do not do that, they are all atheists. Like Dracula they are afraid of the cross.
In reality the most dangerous people often live in all kind of weird religious delusions often based on their own interpretation of scripture. Nearly all Serial killers have a fundamentalist background and tie their murders in with their perceived relationship with God. When people mix weird behavior and ideas in with God and feel protected or sanctified, then you want to stay as far away as possible from them, even more if they have a criminal and mental institutional record.
When they manipulate your emotions with stories that make you sob, run even harder!
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Spiderman
Veteran Member
I'm a spiritist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritism
I'm aware that my practices may cause more harm than good so I'm careful. All I know, is that the all-nighters I pulled at cemeteries were better than what I expected. The deceased speak to my heart and imagination and sometimes I could visibly see them as misty vapor.
At one point it seemed my every movement was controlled like a puppet. It was truly one of my favorite experiences.
I've given my life to them. The dead outnumber the living. They make up an Empire. Everything in this Universe is connected I'm just praying for the spirits to guide me and make me their obedient servant.
We came from the spirit-world and to the spirit world we shall return. This house of flesh is temporary and I offer it up to the spirits to do with it as they will.
No, I don't want followers. I don't have the credentials. I'm praying for understanding and until I have that, it would be terrible to try to lead or shepherd anyone.
At this time in my life I'm confused and need help and healing from God before I can help anyone, so, no, I don't want people to follow my example. I'm seeking enlightenment and as you can see, making mistakes in the process.
But failure can give birth to success. Thomas Edison failed 10,000 times at making the light bulb.
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