Gonna pull an all nighter at a cemetery

[lovesong]

You're fine lovesong... The souls in heaven are more charitable and enlightened than anyone on earth including mother Teresa.

They are happy to receive respect and honor If they see you are troubled, confused, sick, or in danger spiritually, it only draws them to want to help you more.

Christ hung out with drunkards, prostitutes, thieves, pagans, and tax-collectors. He said "the shepherd leaves the 99 sheep for the one that is lost. When he finds that one he puts it over his shoulder and rejoices more over that one than the 99 that didn't go astray. "

Point being, from a Christian perspective, those souls are one in mind with Christ, so they are happier that you are seeking their company than they are for the righteous who have no need of repentance or help.

As long your motives are pure, that's what matters

That's a very noble position to take. Thank you.

 

[Spiderman]

@PopeADope
You're right, it can absolutely be dangerous, and hearing your backstory I can understand why you'd want to stay away from things that could lead you into danger. I have a greater respect for you and your practice after hearing your story and understanding why you do what you do. Your story with the girl is beautiful, and I'm jealous of how close you've become with her. That is such a sweet and tender relationship to have. There is an undoubtable underlying beauty in death and I respect you for seeing it too, even if we go about it differently, we are still taking our own road to the same place. I wish you lots of luck, whatever you choose to do. Keep us posted!

These, that's right, I'll ask Denise to make sure we meet on the other side.

@PopeADope
You're right, it can absolutely be dangerous, and hearing your backstory I can understand why you'd want to stay away from things that could lead you into danger. I have a greater respect for you and your practice after hearing your story and understanding why you do what you do. Your story with the girl is beautiful, and I'm jealous of how close you've become with her. That is such a sweet and tender relationship to have. There is an undoubtable underlying beauty in death and I respect you for seeing it too, even if we go about it differently, we are still taking our own road to the same place. I wish you lots of luck, whatever you choose to do. Keep us posted!

Why thank you! I will ask that Denise and her army in heaven will make sure you get to the same summit, even though you take a different path. We will meet up on the other side. Death is beautiful! I hope it happens soon, I just worry what the consequences are or who I'll hurt if I do something to make it happen.

This is my room:

...

I keep candles burning all night long. All of them victims of the same person who killed her.

It united them together. They are family with the same mission and vocation...one in mind, heart, will, and spirit.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes we absolutely do need to by mindful of the private plots and make sure not to cause damage to them, but there is no way that a person sitting in a graveyard, holding a few items, talking to themselves could be considered desecration. That's the beauty of religious freedom. I am free to sit by any grave I please and say any words I please. We've talked about dealing with the dead before. I told you then and I will reaffirm now that I never disrespect the dead or violate their resting places. I would never damage a gravestone, disrupt a body, or ruin their plot. I would never insult the dead, mistreat them, or fail to pay the proper respects to them. The whole purpose of necromancy is to become close to the dead, to honor and learn from them, not to cause any harm or disrespect. That is not the purpose and it is not the outcome, It never was and never will be.

Yeah, I understand all of that. I'm just opposed to the entire idea of necromancy and doing such things in cemeteries. I'd be pissed if someone was doing that in a cemetery where a loved one of mine was buried. I think it should just be left alone. If the dead want to talk to you, they'll visit you of their own accord (I've had a dead uncle visit me in a dream, unbidden). So we just disagree here.

 

[Spiderman]

Yeah, I understand all of that. I'm just opposed to the entire idea of necromancy and doing such things in cemeteries. I'd be pissed if someone was doing that in a cemetery where a loved one of mine was buried. I think it should just be left alone. If the dead want to talk to you, they'll visit you of their own accord (I've had a dead uncle visit me in a dream, unbidden). So we just disagree here.

Just like God likes attention , worship, honor, and faith, so do the deceased appreciate a loving gesture, veneration, and good intentions .

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Just like God likes attention , worship, honor, and faith, so do the deceased appreciate a loving gesture, veneration, and good intentions .

I think you and I have very different ideas of what that looks like.

 

[Spiderman]

I think you and I have very different ideas of what that looks like.

God looks at what's in the heart more than external appearances

 

[Kapalika]

Don't worry about the haters and keep doing your thing @PopeADope Doing stuff like this in graveyards can be really rewarding if you go in with the right mindset.

edit; just keep in mind that not everyone who sees this happen will understand and some might be upset about it. Don't do anything that might put you in trouble with city ordinances or trespassing laws and be prepared to respectfully explain what you are doing while recognizing that some people might not be okay with it or weirded out by it. If you make it clear you are only seeking people of your own faith buried there you will probably get along better.

Yeah, I understand all of that. I'm just opposed to the entire idea of necromancy and doing such things in cemeteries. I'd be pissed if someone was doing that in a cemetery where a loved one of mine was buried. I think it should just be left alone. If the dead want to talk to you, they'll visit you of their own accord (I've had a dead uncle visit me in a dream, unbidden). So we just disagree here.

Have you prayed for the dead buried within when you visit a cemetery with catholic prayers? Not that I am assuming you have, but it's a thing I'm aware of happens sometimes.

That seems more intrusive than just going to a cemetery to speak with actual dead people of your same beliefs which is what PopeaDope seems to be doing from what I read of the first page and last page (didn't read the other pages).

If you are also against that practice by all means please tell me, and I apologize if so and you can disregard what I just said.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Have you prayed for the dead buried within when you visit a cemetery with catholic prayers? Not that I am assuming you have, but it's a thing I'm aware of happens sometimes.

Yes, I have prayed for the dead at a cemetery before, when I went there with someone else who wanted to go. I was not invoking them, trying to "use" their energies or whatever. To me, I was just wishing them well and that I hope they find their greatest good in whatever may come next. I was not trying to convert them or anything like that.

 

[Spiderman]

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The sad fact is 1/2 the population on Earth is not especially bright and is given to fanciful explanations on subjects they do not understand.

True, but I've known deeply spiritually people who were brilliant, successful, practical, rational, and very educated about science, medicine, evolution, versed in the writings of Dawkins and what not.

But I can see why people are Atheist. I even sympathize with those who hate Religion. It certainly is a ridiculous three ring circus ****-show out there where religious beliefs do enormous damage to our world.

I've seen faith do a lot of good as well though. There are a lot of people who are honest and do good deeds from belief in God or karma.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I like graveyards, they seem like very peaceful places to me.

 

[Spiderman]

Christians claim they don't summon spirits but they do all the time, just call it by a different name. At Pentecostal revivals the music, the praises, the words uttered, the raising of hands in the air, talking in tounges, baptism of the Holy Spirit, laying hands on people to fill them with the Holy Spirit, asking Jesus into your heart to inhabit and possess you, and falling on the ground from being slain in the spirit, all resembles what is seen at a Hatian voodoo ceremony where people get possessed by the LOA....
http://paranormal.lovetoknow.com/about-paranormal/understanding-voodoo-possession

The word Voodoo means "spirit " so to call the Holy Ghost, "Holy voodoo" isn't blasphemy.

Catholic liturgy invokes the dead at every single mass on earth (and there is a mass being celebrated somewhere every minute of the day. )

They burn candles before images or bodies of the deceased. Sometimes the Holy corpses are covered in wax and on display. Like Saint Bernadette:

When people recite the Rosary that is like summoning (contacting ) Mary or Novenas, that is invoking the dead.

Even Jesus died it is Scriptural that the communion of Saints is one body in Christ , the Father, and the Holy Ghost, and one body with us, so when you invite the spirit of God into your body (temple ) you invite other spirits and angels as well

 

[Aupmanyav]

I like graveyards, they seem like very peaceful places to me.

Ours funeral are most noisy, weeping, laughing, shouting, drinking, every thing goes. My favorite act is to take a few who have come to the funeral to a nearby teashop and have tea and snacks. Among my relatives, we do it regularly when the preparations of the funeral pyre are going on.

Oh, I get the photo of the shop that we go to on internet. Ha ha.

 

[Spiderman]

Ours funeral are most noisy, weeping, laughing, shouting, drinking, every thing goes. My favorite act is to take a few who have come to the funeral to a nearby teashop and have tea and snacks. Among my relatives, we do it regularly when the preparations of the funeral pyre are going on.

Oh, I get the photo of the shop that we go to on internet. Ha ha.

Yeah, I like Hindu funerals. I saw one and you would never know it was a funeral. It was a dance, a party, and looked somewhat like a college keggar. The thing I found insightful, is it was for a man's Mother who had gotten killed for the money in her wallet. Yet he was dancing, acting silly, and had an ear-to-ear grin on his face. He said "This is how my Mother would have wanted her funeral". I found that insightful! A lot of people would prefer their loved-ones make merry, rejoice and be glad , rather than be filled with grief.

 

[Spiderman]

Best to let the dead rest, imo.

So, what about the billions of Hail Mary's prayed every day around the world and all the processions of Marian icons and millions of candles lit in her honor. Shouldn't we just let her rest?

She likes the attention

Even if someone has strange methods, she is glad her children are seeking her. That is the attitude of many other souls as well.

Mother Teresa of Calcutta was Catholic and she didn't object to Hindus practicing their hindu rituals, keeping their hindu talismans, pictures, Hindu-Scriptures, or practicing those practices in her Catholic houses for the sick and dying.

The souls who have been perfected for heaven are more charitable than Mother Teresa.

Also, once a soul no longer has a body holding it back, it can travel at the speed of light, and doesn't have to be around any type of racket or practice it doesn't like. From what I read among people who have the gift to see and meet with the supernatural, the spirits that hang out at cemeteries are often not the spirits of the people that were buried there (unless there is a loved one there invoking them or petitioning them, they don't prefer to hang out there.)

 

[Parchment]

"Seek ye not for spirits among the places of the dead for the only spirits ye shall find have long left their empty tombs, you will know these tombs by their names, Jack Daniels, Budweiser, McCormick, Vostok, etc."
-Al Haziz Nebuchadnezzar
Alright, I just made that up but during my travels I've slept in more than a few out of the way cemeteries when the towns I ended up in didn't have a motel and the next town was farther away than I wanted to ride at night on rural roads because of animal crossing concerns -on a motorcycle you WILL lose to a deer, a raccoon, or a possum might even ruin your day. On a weekend I usually stayed out of them because cops were generally on alert and kicking out the high school kids drinking but during most any weekday I was left alone, quite peaceful actually.

 

[Perditus]

Your reading comprehension level leaves much to be desired. A public cemetery is a public cemetery. There happen to be Christians there. There are probably Muslims there. Jews. Others. What's being done here isn't desecration, it just bothers you. However the law does not exist to service your delicate sensibilities.

My comprehension is fine. The disrespect for the living relatives disgusts me.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yet he was dancing, acting silly, and had an ear-to-ear grin on his face. He said "This is how my Mother would have wanted her funeral". I found that insightful! A lot of people would prefer their loved-ones make merry, rejoice and be glad, rather than be filled with grief.

Pope, if an old man or women dies in happiness, with many children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, then it is considered a festive occasion. All relatives and acquaintances are invited, a grand feast is held, the funeral bier is decorated (and termed as 'vimana') and as it happened with the mother of my maternal grandfather, there was a band in attendance. More so if the women was not a widow, in which case she is dressed as a bride.

 

[MD]

Ours funeral are most noisy, weeping, laughing, shouting, drinking, every thing goes. My favorite act is to take a few who have come to the funeral to a nearby teashop and have tea and snacks. Among my relatives, we do it regularly when the preparations of the funeral pyre are going on.

Oh, I get the photo of the shop that we go to on internet. Ha ha.

Parle G...epic

 

[Nietzsche]

My comprehension is fine. The disrespect for the living relatives disgusts me.

How do you feel about Mormons baptising the dead? Or Christians in their churches praying for the souls of non-believers?

 

[Perditus]

How do you feel about Mormons baptising the dead? Or Christians in their churches praying for the souls of non-believers?

I think it's ridiculous, but whatever.

Worship Satan in the cemetery. I don't care anymore. I've ceded control in an insane world. Same s**t, different day.

It's time for me to die.