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GOP's nightmare: An Independent Donald Trump

leibowde84

Veteran Member
GOP's nightmare: An Independent Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com

No real need to read this article, but I thought I'd provide it anyways.

I've heard a lot of back and forth about what Republicans think about Donald Trump possibly running as a 3rd Party Candidate. Some feel it is necessary to give the GOP a "reality check". Others who seem to be more logical/reasonable, see it as a potential disaster for the party which will secure Hilary Clinton's election.

What are your thoughts? Is there any reasonable argument for why this would be a smart move for Trump and/or the GOP?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think that Trump is a nightmare for the Republicans either way, and he's sucking all the oxygen out of the party.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Assuming Trump could get his name on ballot as a third party, it would weaken the chances of a Republican candidate winning. I don't think it would be as damning as Ralph Nader is to the Democrats, or even nearly as much of a nightmare for the Republicans as a strong Libertarian candidate running third party would be, but Trump might hurt the chances of a Republican winning. When it comes time to vote, I just don't think enough people will take him seriously enough to actually vote for him to make that big of a difference.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I'm a semi-liberal conservative and Trump scares hell out of me!
Running as an Independent Idiot he would cripple the GOP.
 
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Underhill

Well-Known Member
I would donate to his campaign! Trump would make an ideal GoP candidate so far as I'm concerned.

I'm also not surprised he is doing as well as he is. I think there is a huge percentage of the party that feels kinship with him.

But to answer the question posted. Hell no. The party would be insane to have him on the ticket and in even worse shape as a independent.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Shouldn't it be _good_ for the GOP to have Trump out of the way?
No because 3rd party canadates only steal votes from 1 of the 2 parties in America... So he would steal GOP votes giving a percentage age to the dems.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
But the question is are there any others in the GOP that can trump Trump?

OK, I'm leaving!
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Donald Trump has few redeeming qualities. They are often dwarfed by his other less admirable qualities. But he isn't a whipped dog of the party and he doesn't have any sense of loyalty to the party. He is a loose cannon who isn't "really" a republican in the eyes of the republican party as an organization of politicians and political scientists. For all intents and purposes he is an independent in character, stance and action. He is simply running under the republican ticket and if he doesn't win the primary he is probably just going to flop over to independent or possibly libertarian. He has shown support for libertarians in the past and that is closer to his ideals. However this would mean it would be nigh impossible for the GOP or trump to be elected as it would divide the right wing while having little to no effect on the left.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would donate to his campaign! Trump would make an ideal GoP candidate so far as I'm concerned.

I'm also not surprised he is doing as well as he is. I think there is a huge percentage of the party that feels kinship with him.

But to answer the question posted. Hell no. The party would be insane to have him on the ticket and in even worse shape as a independent.

I'm inclined to agree. Trump speaks his mind, is not intimidated by peer pressure into toting a specific party line that tirelessly sings with the quire, and this guy is clearly "street" smart.

Qualities that are sorely lacking in politics these days. Not only would he royally stir up the lame and limp duck called the GOP, but also can put runaway liberalism/socialism in it's proper place.

I would definitely consider Trump. We desperately need someone capable of actually steering the ship as a bonofide captain, and not as some limp cabin boy timidly bowing to any pressures that happen to come by.

It seems with Trump, you will get what's advertised which makes it definitely worth a shot. Can't get much worse, that's for sure.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He is simply running under the republican ticket and if he doesn't win the primary he is probably just going to flop over to independent or possibly libertarian. He has shown support for libertarians in the past and that is closer to his ideals.
And he's also tried it with the Democrats. I see no reason, at all, to believe he is seriously considering running. In terms of his presidential talks, that seems to be all it is.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Qualities that are sorely lacking in politics these days. Not only would he royally stir up the lame and limp duck called the GOP, but also can put runaway liberalism/socialism in it's proper place.
And don't forgot about his more typical qualities, such as condemning foreign laborers and calling them a threat but having no problems with having his junk made by them.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Donald Trump has few redeeming qualities. They are often dwarfed by his other less admirable qualities. But he isn't a whipped dog of the party and he doesn't have any sense of loyalty to the party. He is a loose cannon who isn't "really" a republican in the eyes of the republican party as an organization of politicians and political scientists. For all intents and purposes he is an independent in character, stance and action. He is simply running under the republican ticket and if he doesn't win the primary he is probably just going to flop over to independent or possibly libertarian. He has shown support for libertarians in the past and that is closer to his ideals. However this would mean it would be nigh impossible for the GOP or trump to be elected as it would divide the right wing while having little to no effect on the left.
My thoughts exactly. It comes down to deciding whether the GOP will allow Trump to hurt them or if they will instead prefer to let it bury them.
 

Monk Of Reason

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And he's also tried it with the Democrats. I see no reason, at all, to believe he is seriously considering running. In terms of his presidential talks, that seems to be all it is.
I fear he is quite serious. He is the kind of person that believes in himself to a fault. It is part of why he has been so successful. His arrogance or confidence, however which way you wish to describe it, knows no bounds. I think he believes that he will win the heart of the people so much that he will win as either the GOP candidate or as the first independent. He knows that he "probably" won't win but he most definitely believes he could.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
An RF advert asked me to participate in a survey about GOP candidates.
I voted solidly for Trump and his immigration policies. So every time you hear poll numbers keep in mind that I am one of the people who support him.
:)
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Ooh
I just voted for the GOP to fight Obama on gun rights.
I think anyone who hasn't been clinically diagnosed should be able to protect themselves.
;)
Tom
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
The problem - the source of embarrassment - is not Trump. It's that he has a base of support who are actually allowed to vote.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And don't forgot about his more typical qualities, such as condemning foreign laborers and calling them a threat but having no problems with having his junk made by them.
What company would that be? See if he still runs it.
 
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