Hamas must be eradicated

[icehorse]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas. All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life. This terrorist organization must be utterly destroyed, even the leaders sitting in cushy hotels a thousand miles away from the war.

The world has left it to Israel to perform this task, and much of the world complains about how Israel is going about it.

Fine, the world needs to step up and finish the job for Israel. Easy Peasy.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not possible.
Hamas exists in other countries, & will
survive, even if momentarily decimated.
The other question...
Is eradication of an enemy moral?
Are the costs to innocents moral?

There is a point of diminishing returns
in many endeavors.
Good enuf might cost $x & y lives.
Really good might cost $2x & 2y lives.
Perfection might cost $10x & 10y lives.

 

[icehorse]

It's not possible.
Hamas exists in other countries, & will
survive, even if momentarily decimated.
The other question...
Is eradication of an enemy moral?
Are the costs to innocents moral?

There is a point of diminishing returns
in many endeavors.
Good enuf might cost $x & y lives.
Really good might cost $2x & 2y lives.
Perfection might cost $10x & 10y lives.

100% is probably not possible, how about 99% with the public understanding that Hamas is like Nazis? The world has mostly kept neo-Nazis in check.

In some cases, like for terrorist organizations I think it's moral. It would certainly save the lives of more innocents over the long term.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas

^ this

All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life.

Hamas leadership and the Hamas military/terrorist apparatus must be dealt with.

 

[Twilight Hue]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas. All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life. This terrorist organization must be utterly destroyed, even the leaders sitting in cushy hotels a thousand miles away from the war.

The world has left it to Israel to perform this task, and much of the world complains about how Israel is going about it.

Fine, the world needs to step up and finish the job for Israel. Easy Peasy.

If they have ties with Iran , then it gets more complicated than a simple police action on the assailants of this terror organization

 

[Jimmy]

It's not possible.
Hamas exists in other countries, & will
survive, even if momentarily decimated.
The other question...
Is eradication of an enemy moral?
Are the costs to innocents moral?

There is a point of diminishing returns
in many endeavors.
Good enuf might cost $x & y lives.
Really good might cost $2x & 2y lives.
Perfection might cost $10x & 10y lives.

Hamas are fruit loops. You can’t see that? I guess terror organizations don’t exist huh? No terrorists in your world huh?

 

[Bthoth]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas. All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life. This terrorist organization must be utterly destroyed, even the leaders sitting in cushy hotels a thousand miles away from the war.

The world has left it to Israel to perform this task, and much of the world complains about how Israel is going about it.

Fine, the world needs to step up and finish the job for Israel. Easy Peasy.

Trying to impose genocide is no better than ww2 germany.

Address the problem. Trying to genocide palestinians is a lost to mankind.

 

[icehorse]

Trying to impose genocide is no better than ww2 germany.

Address the problem. Trying to genocide palestinians is a lost to mankind.

Sorry what? Who's proposing genocide? Perhaps you didn't read the OP carefully?

 

[Bthoth]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas. All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life. This terrorist organization must be utterly destroyed, even the leaders sitting in cushy hotels a thousand miles away from the war.

The world has left it to Israel to perform this task, and much of the world complains about how Israel is going about it.

Fine, the world needs to step up and finish the job for Israel. Easy Peasy.

Trying to impose genocide is no better than ww2 germany.

Address the problem. Trying to genocide palestinians is a lost to mankind.

100% is probably not possible, how about 99% with the public understanding that Hamas is like Nazis? The world has mostly kept neo-Nazis in check.

The genocide that israel is attempting is no better than ww2 germans

In some cases, like for terrorist organizations I think it's moral. It would certainly save the lives of more innocents over the long term.

The idea is actually rude.

What hamas did was wrong but there is no genocide to occur

 

[jes-us]

To be clear, I'm making a distinction between Palestinian civilians, and members of Hamas. All members of Hamas must be dealt with, for example by imprisoning them for life. This terrorist organization must be utterly destroyed, even the leaders sitting in cushy hotels a thousand miles away from the war.

The world has left it to Israel to perform this task, and much of the world complains about how Israel is going about it.

Fine, the world needs to step up and finish the job for Israel. Easy Peasy.

Shouldn't Israel make it clear to the protestors of the world , that Israel is freeing Palestine ?

 

[Revoltingest]

Hamas are fruit loops. You can’t see that?

No, I don't view parties the these hostilities
in jocular histrionic terms that bespeak
no understanding.

I guess terror organizations don’t exist huh? No terrorists in your world huh?

More specious questions, eh.

Come on, dude...be worth of discussion.

 

[Jimmy]

No, I don't view parties the these hostilities
in jocular histrionic terms that bespeak
no understanding.

More specious questions, eh.

Come on, dude...be worth of discussion.

Ok. hamas isn’t a terror organization

 

[Jimmy]

No, I don't view parties the these hostilities
in jocular histrionic terms that bespeak
no understanding.

More specious questions, eh.

Come on, dude...be worth of discussion.

Do you not think that terror organizations exist? Don’t know why I’m asking you. you probably won’t give me a straight answer anyway

 

[Revoltingest]

Ok. hamas isn’t a terror organization

If you really want to discuss this,
don't make dumb histrionic posts.

 

[Jimmy]

No, I don't view parties the these hostilities
in jocular histrionic terms that bespeak
no understanding.

More specious questions, eh.

Come on, dude...be worth of discussion.

So just because Israel is oppressing Palestinians terrorist organizations are incapable of existing in Gaza? Hamas is fighting Israel so they must be good huh? That’s your reasoning right? Ok.

 

[Jimmy]

If you really want to discuss this,
don't make dumb histrionic posts.

There’s really nothing to discuss. You made it very clear where you stand on other threads that you support Hamas. They exist because of Israel’s oppression is what you said.

 

[Revoltingest]

*Mod edit*

There’s really nothing to discuss. You made it very clear where you stand on other threads that you support Hamas. They exist because of Israel’s oppression is what you said.

I've been clear.
But not every poster can read without prejudice.

 

[Jimmy]

I've been clear.
But not every poster can read without prejudice.

Oh I see, you think they’re a terrorist organization but they’re doing a good thing by fighting the oppressive Israelis. Gotcha.

 

[Jimmy]

I've been clear.
But not every poster can read without prejudice.

Or you think they’re fruit loops like I do. Then we’re on the same page.

 

[Jimmy]

I've been clear.
But not every poster can read without prejudice.

But when you use language like “Hamas exists because of the oppression” it makes people start to wonder