Hamilton County (TX) May Install Ten Commandments Monument Outside Courthouse

[Revoltingest]

And the court follows that rule at it's own discretion. To quote:

Whether it shall be followed or departed from is a question entirely within the discretion of the court,

And the court favors stare decisis in the majority of casis.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

And the court favors stare decisis in the majority of casis.

I agree, but not in all.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nice inciting violence and destruction of govt property so your fee fees won't get hurt. Not cool.

It has less to do with "fee fees" and more to do with upholding the priciples, values, and integrity of the nation. America wasn't intended to - nor will it ever - be a theocracy. Let it go.

 

[Father Heathen]

Local government is restricted in some things but not all things by the Constitution. There is nothing in the language of the Clause that says it applies to local governments and federal and state jurisdiction over them can only go so far.

So small towns can seize guns or reestablish slavery?
Care to substantiate this nonsense?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

So small towns can seize guns or reestablish slavery?
Care to substantiate this nonsense?

Is this about religious monuments or gun rights?

 

[Father Heathen]

Rubbish slavery is in the bible because it was a common practice everywhere

So god simply conceded to unjust human social norms? Rather weak and underwhelming as far as deities go.

 

[Revoltingest]

So small towns can seize guns or reestablish slavery?
Care to substantiate this nonsense?

The Incorporation Doctrine would apply to all constitutional rights per Article VI, Clause 2 (the Supremacy Clause).
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made
n Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under
the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;
and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the
Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

 

[Father Heathen]

Is this about religious monuments or gun rights?

Why? Are you implying that the second amendment is more important than the first?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

The Incorporation Doctrine would apply to all constitutional rights per Article VI, Clause 2 (the Supremacy Clause).
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made
n Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under
the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;
and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the
Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

In California, municipalities are able to ban guns even though the state itself is unable to ban guns. It depends on the state.

 

[Darkforbid]

So god simply conceded to unjust human social norms? Rather weak and underwhelming as far as deities go.

Well in most cases it was slavery or death. Why do atheist argue for a dictator God?

 

[Revoltingest]

In California, municipalities are able to ban guns even though the state itself is unable to ban guns. It depends on the state.

There are many unconstitutional laws on states' & cities' books.
This does not mean that they are necessarily constitutional.
Tis a long process for challenges to wend their way to the USSC.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Why? Are you implying that the second amendment is more important than the first?

Again.
In California, municipalities are able to ban guns even though the state itself is unable to ban guns. It depends on the state. The state doesn't ban guns but following the Incorporation Doctrine it does prohibit slavery and doesn't allow municipalities to circumvent that prohibition

California Constitution:

.“[a] county or city may make and enforce within its limits all local, police, sanitary, and other ordinances and regulations not in conflict with general laws.”

 

[The Reverend Bob]

There are many unconstitutional laws on states' & cities' books.
This does not mean that they are necessarily constitutional.
Tis a long process for challenges to wend their way to the USSC.

So how does giving municipalities the right to govern how they will deal with guns unconstitutional?

 

[Revoltingest]

So how does giving municipalities the right to govern how they will deal with guns unconstitutional?

They're not given the right to violate the Constitution.
So they may deal with guns, but within constitutional limits.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

They're not given the right to violate the Constitution.
So they may deal with guns, but within constitutional limits.

So when a municipality say you cannot have or carry a firearm within our city limits, you believe they are in violation of the Constitution?

 

[Revoltingest]

So when a municipality say you cannot have or carry a firearm within our city limits, you believe they are in violation of the Constitution?

An outright ban would be unconstitutional IMO.
Are you familiar with District Of Columbia vs Heller?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

An outright ban would be unconstitutional IMO.
Are you familiar with District Of Columbia vs Heller?

Sure. So, is Chicago's assault weapon ban unconstitutional in your opinion? What about limiting where you can have a gun like some states have laws for (only at home or place of business)? And if like say certain closed communities didn't want firearms in the vicinity of their community would you deem that unconstitutional? Are gun-free zones unconstitutional?

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure. So, is Chicago's assault weapon ban unconstitutional in your opinion?

I don't know.

What about limiting where you can have a gun like some states have laws for (only at home or place of business)?

Unconstitutional.

And if like say certain closed communities didn't want firearms in the vicinity of their community would you deem that unconstitutional?

That could become complicated if the community is, for example, a condominium with such a restriction.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional?

It would depend upon the zone.

Are these questions leading to something discussionworthy?
Government buildings appear to be allowed to ban them.
Cities cannot.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure. So, is Chicago's assault weapon ban unconstitutional in your opinion?

I don't know.

What about limiting where you can have a gun like some states have laws for (only at home or place of business)?

Unconstitutional.

And if like say certain closed communities didn't want firearms in the vicinity of their community would you deem that unconstitutional?

That could become complicated if the community is, for example, a condominium with such a restriction.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional?

It would depend upon the zone.

Are these questions leading to something discussionworthy?
Government buildings appear to be allowed to ban them.
Cities cannot.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I don't know.

Unconstitutional.

That could become complicated if the community is, for example, a condominium with such a restriction.

It would depend upon the zone.

Are these questions leading to something discussionworthy?
Government buildings appear to be allowed to ban them.
Cities cannot.

What rights do municipalities have under the Constitution?