Harris with her so called 'black relatives' along with her background of slavers brought into serious question.

[ImmortalFlame]

I don't see it being debunked.

It's the wrong death certificate. They just found someone with the same name and falsely assumed it was her because they listed the wrong death certificate on the FInd a Grave website.

Kamala's grandmother (note the cited death certificate is the one Candace used):

Beril Magdeline Finegan (1917-1995) - Find a...

She married Lawford Newland in 1944.

www.findagrave.com

Birth certificate:

Photos of Beril Magdeline Finegan - Find a Grave...

She married Lawford Newland in 1944.

www.findagrave.com

ACTUAL death certificate:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYViHzhXYAU_w0k?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

The person whose death certificate they're (likely) mistaking for hers:

FamilySearch.org

Discover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources.

ancestors.familysearch.org

The incorrectly cited death certificate in question:

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2024/269/272680650_7e233d32-4596-428c-9b46-405fab472daf.jpeg?size=photos250

The death certificate they provided doesn't even match with the birth certificate they used for Kamala's grandmother. It's obviously not the same person.

Candace Owens literally looked at two different certificates, assumed that - because the names were similar and someone had attributed them to the same page on findagrave.com - they must refer to the same person despite the birth date being different, their birth names being different, marrying different people, dying at completely different times and in completely different circumstances and, crucially, ONE OF THEM NOT BEING THE MOTHER OF KAMALA'S ACTUAL FATHER.

Stop falling for this stupid clickbait. Be smarter than this.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's the wrong death certificate. They just found someone with the same name and falsely assumed it was her.

Kamala's grandmother (note the cited death certificate is the one Candace used):

Beril Magdeline Finegan (1917-1995) - Find a...

She married Lawford Newland in 1944.

www.findagrave.com

Birth certificate:

Photos of Beril Magdeline Finegan - Find a Grave...

She married Lawford Newland in 1944.

www.findagrave.com

ACTUAL death certificate:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYViHzhXYAU_w0k?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

The person whose death certificate they're (likely) mistaking for hers:

FamilySearch.org

Discover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources.

ancestors.familysearch.org

The incorrectly cited death certificate in question:

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2024/269/272680650_7e233d32-4596-428c-9b46-405fab472daf.jpeg?size=photos250

The death certificate they provided doesn't even match with the birth certificate they used for Kamala's grandmother. It's obviously not the same person.

Candace Owens literally looked at two different certificates, assumed that - because the names were similar and someone had attributed them to the same page on findagrave.com - they must refer to the same person despite the birth date being different, their birth names being different, marrying different people, dying at completely different times and in completely different circumstances and, crucially, ONE OF THEM NOT BEING THE MOTHER OF KAMALA'S ACTUAL FATHER.

Stop falling for this stupid clickbait. Be smarter than this.

All this gnashing of teeth over details about Harris's
racial background.....the claimed possibility that she
might possibly not be exactly as represented.
But not one peep about Trump's many vicious &
outrageous lies.
To love Trump is bad for brains....& other people.

 

[Kathryn]

To the MAGAs, "African American" and "Native American" are "woke", and insulting to the REAL Americans.

Wnhere do you get this? The reason I am asking is because I am not a MAGA but I do know some and none of them feel this way.

 

[Kathryn]

How many of each do you have?

None.

 

[wellwisher]

How does anyone explain this?

We are all a product of nature and nurture. In the case of Harris, her father was Jamaican, and her mother Asian India, with Jamaican not just African but also blended with Chinese, Asian Indian and White mixed in. A large group of Asian Indians immigrated to Jamaica due to food shortages in their homeland.

Due to deteriorating socioeconomic conditions in British India, more than 36,000 Indians came to British Jamaica as indentured labourers under the Indian indenture system between 1845 and 1917, mostly from Bhojpur and Awadh in the Hindi Belt as well as other parts of North India.

Kamala's parents divorced when she was young and she was raised mostly by her mother and Asian Indian relatives on her mother's side. Although math is not a main subject in Liberal Arts, the average of nature and nurture, makes Kamala, more Indian than black. Obama was white and black and raised by his mother's white family. What both Democrat politicians have in common, is pandering to the blacks, who appear to vote based on race, which makes them racists. Skill is of secondary importance, although Trump is making inroads with black men who wish to be free to enjoy the America dream.

Calling a multi-racial person, based on nature and nurture, black, goes back to slavery, where white was defined, by Democrats, like paint. Even if one was 1/32 black, and that black paint was added to white paint, you would make gray paint and that was considered black; not white. This old fashion racist way was not based on the sum of nature and nurture, which is more scientific. But is based on some arbitrary racist Democrat standards, that made one considered black, even if you were 31/32 white or other ethnicity, in terms of DNA.

Kamala, as do most Democrats still pander to this archaic DNC slave standard, and the blacks on the modern plantation are conditioned to accept it. All the Liberals still do contortion to perpetuate the archaic tradition and avoid any math. Light skins blacks, like Kamala, need to modernize and claim multiracial and not gray paint.

To be considered black in the United States not even half of one's ancestry must be African black. But will one-fourth do, or one-eighth, or less? The nation's answer to the question 'Who is black?" has long been that a black is any person with any known African black ancestry. This definition reflects the long experience with slavery and later with Jim Crow segregation. In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule,'' meaning that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a black. It is also known as the "one black ancestor rule," some courts have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists call it the "hypo-descent rule," meaning that racially mixed persons are assigned the status of the subordinate group. This definition emerged from the American South to become the nation's definition, generally accepted by whites and blacks. Blacks had no other choice. As we shall see, this American cultural definition of blacks is taken for granted as readily by judges, affirmative action officers, and black protesters as it is by Ku Klux Klansmen.

 

[Kathryn]

Oh by the way, my great grandson, who is 1/8th African American and 7/8s European American., is darker than one of his aunts, who is 1/4th African American and 3/4ths European American (one is considerably darker complected than the other, but she has blue eyes!). And my other granddaughters are also 1/4th African American but they are also 1/2 Panamanian and Italian (their dad is 1/2 Panamanian and 1/2 Italian and is pretty dark complected). One looks like she came straight out of the Amazon rain forest and one looks African American. I find that interesting.

So much for the one drop rule. My family looks like a UN delegation! My adopted brother and also one of my grandsons (also adopted) and my daughter in law are all south Korean! Oh and my other son is engaged to a girl from Brazil and God only knows what HER ancestry is! She doesn't look African American at all and she is blonde but that may have come from a bottle. But her hair is totally straight unlike my kids and grandkids and even my one great grandkid. But I have really curly hair and I am as white as the driven snow, whatever that means.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why shouldn't it if she is lying?

I don't care, even if she is lying.

I don't care what someone's race is. Like, at all. I care about what kind of person they are.

 

[SkepticThinker]

We are all a product of nature and nurture. In the case of Harris, her father was Jamaican, and her mother Asian India, with Jamaican not just African but also blended with Chinese, Asian Indian and White mixed in. A large group of Asian Indians immigrated to Jamaica due to food shortages in their homeland.



Kamala's parents divorced when she was young and she was raised mostly by her mother and Asian Indian relatives on her mother's side. Although math is not a main subject in Liberal Arts, the average of nature and nurture, makes Kamala, more Indian than black. Obama was white and black and raised by his mother's white family. What both Democrat politicians have in common, is pandering to the blacks, who appear to vote based on race, which makes them racists. Skill is of secondary importance, although Trump is making inroads with black men who wish to be free to enjoy the America dream.

Calling a multi-racial person, based on nature and nurture, black, goes back to slavery, where white was defined, by Democrats, like paint. Even if one was 1/32 black, and that black paint was added to white paint, you would make gray paint and that was considered black; not white. This old fashion racist way was not based on the sum of nature and nurture, which is more scientific. But is based on some arbitrary racist Democrat standards, that made one considered black, even if you were 31/32 white or other ethnicity, in terms of DNA.

Kamala, as do most Democrats still pander to this archaic DNC slave standard, and the blacks on the modern plantation are conditioned to accept it. All the Liberals still do contortion to perpetuate the archaic tradition and avoid any math. Light skins blacks, like Kamala, need to modernize and claim multiracial and not gray paint.

This is great.
Make it all about race, then claim everybody else is making it about race.
Brilliant.

 

[PureX]

We are all a product of nature and nurture. In the case of Harris, her father was Jamaican, and her mother Asian India, with Jamaican not just African but also blended with Chinese, Asian Indian and White mixed in. A large group of Asian Indians immigrated to Jamaica due to food shortages in their homeland.



Kamala's parents divorced when she was young and she was raised mostly by her mother and Asian Indian relatives on her mother's side. Although math is not a main subject in Liberal Arts, the average of nature and nurture, makes Kamala, more Indian than black. Obama was white and black and raised by his mother's white family. What both Democrat politicians have in common, is pandering to the blacks, who appear to vote based on race, which makes them racists. Skill is of secondary importance, although Trump is making inroads with black men who wish to be free to enjoy the America dream.

Calling a multi-racial person, based on nature and nurture, black, goes back to slavery, where white was defined, by Democrats, like paint. Even if one was 1/32 black, and that black paint was added to white paint, you would make gray paint and that was considered black; not white. This old fashion racist way was not based on the sum of nature and nurture, which is more scientific. But is based on some arbitrary racist Democrat standards, that made one considered black, even if you were 31/32 white or other ethnicity, in terms of DNA.

Kamala, as do most Democrats still pander to this archaic DNC slave standard, and the blacks on the modern plantation are conditioned to accept it. All the Liberals still do contortion to perpetuate the archaic tradition and avoid any math. Light skins blacks, like Kamala, need to modernize and claim multiracial and not gray paint.

There's that good old MAGA poison! That's the ugly and dishonest mindset that Trump plays up and plays on every chance he gets. That's the kind of poison that destroys men's hearts and minds and ends up costing people their lives.

 

[Argentbear]

This is great.
Make it all about race, then claim everybody else is making it about race.
Brilliant.

I don't think you were supposed to notice that little bit of hypocrisy

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sure the people who made that video are actually very very white in your world.

I didn't watch it. You couldn't even be assed to summarize it so how can it be worth our time, especially with upfront hateful garbage trying to say a black woman isn't black?

 

[Stevicus]

Oh by the way, my great grandson, who is 1/8th African American and 7/8s European American., is darker than one of his aunts, who is 1/4th African American and 3/4ths European American (one is considerably darker complected than the other, but she has blue eyes!). And my other granddaughters are also 1/4th African American but they are also 1/2 Panamanian and Italian (their dad is 1/2 Panamanian and 1/2 Italian and is pretty dark complected). One looks like she came straight out of the Amazon rain forest and one looks African American. I find that interesting.

So much for the one drop rule. My family looks like a UN delegation! My adopted brother and also one of my grandsons (also adopted) and my daughter in law are all south Korean! Oh and my other son is engaged to a girl from Brazil and God only knows what HER ancestry is! She doesn't look African American at all and she is blonde but that may have come from a bottle. But her hair is totally straight unlike my kids and grandkids and even my one great grandkid. But I have really curly hair and I am as white as the driven snow, whatever that means.

I think external appearances and skin color are not always accurate indicators of race. In fact, traditional definitions of "race" aren't very scientific anyway. Even designations like "Caucasian" seem to be relegated to the realm of pseudo-science these days. Of course, there's still a historical and social context behind it. It's important to examine and understand that, but there are also those who feel the need to put everyone into neatly defined categories.

I guess I just see it as something that people can self-identify on. In the OP video, we have people combing through birth records of Kamala Harris' ancestors to prove that she's not black (or something along those lines; that part is kind of vague). They're trying to tell us "what" she is. I say let her tell us what she is. She's a politician, so everything she says should be viewed with some skepticism, but if she says "rain is wet," I would believe her.

Of course, she could be a reptilian alien in disguise. No one has broached that possibility yet.

 

[Pogo]

I think external appearances and skin color are not always accurate indicators of race. In fact, traditional definitions of "race" aren't very scientific anyway. Even designations like "Caucasian" seem to be relegated to the realm of pseudo-science these days. Of course, there's still a historical and social context behind it. It's important to examine and understand that, but there are also those who feel the need to put everyone into neatly defined categories.

I guess I just see it as something that people can self-identify on. In the OP video, we have people combing through birth records of Kamala Harris' ancestors to prove that she's not black (or something along those lines; that part is kind of vague). They're trying to tell us "what" she is. I say let her tell us what she is. She's a politician, so everything she says should be viewed with some skepticism, but if she says "rain is wet," I would believe her.

Of course, she could be a reptilian alien in disguise. No one has broached that possibility yet.

Not yet, they are just waiting to find a good picture to substitute fore Hillary.

No, Hillary Clinton isn’t a reptile

Old video of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is circulating online, and some social media users are making col

www.politifact.com

 

[Argentbear]

I think external appearances and skin color are not always accurate indicators of race. In fact, traditional definitions of "race" aren't very scientific anyway. Even designations like "Caucasian" seem to be relegated to the realm of pseudo-science these days. Of course, there's still a historical and social context behind it. It's important to examine and understand that, but there are also those who feel the need to put everyone into neatly defined categories.

I guess I just see it as something that people can self-identify on. In the OP video, we have people combing through birth records of Kamala Harris' ancestors to prove that she's not black (or something along those lines; that part is kind of vague). They're trying to tell us "what" she is. I say let her tell us what she is. She's a politician, so everything she says should be viewed with some skepticism, but if she says "rain is wet," I would believe her.

Of course, she could be a reptilian alien in disguise. No one has broached that possibility yet.

Just wait...


oops.. i should have checked first

 

[Twilight Hue]

I didn't watch it. You couldn't even be assed to summarize it so how can it be worth our time, especially with upfront hateful garbage trying to say a black woman isn't black?

It's not hateful garbage at all if they are telling the truth.

You should watch it just for a second just to see who the people are making the claims. Hint: they are definitely not white people.

 

[Shaul]

So if her ancestors really were slave owners would she have to pay reparations to herself?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It's not hateful garbage at all if they are telling the truth.

It's not, though. I've already explained it's false.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's not hateful garbage at all if they are telling the truth.

You should watch it just for a second just to see who the people are making the claims. Hint: they are definitely not white people.

Wait so only white people can share hateful garbage?

Also, they're not telling the truth. So, now what? Can it be hateful garbage now?


I'd love to know why you seem to care so much about her race. I could not care less.

 

[Pogo]

It's not hateful garbage at all if they are telling the truth.

You should watch it just for a second just to see who the people are making the claims. Hint: they are definitely not white people.

No, you should tell us who is on it and what they claim according to you and then we will consider whether it is worth investing our time.
Or are you one of those who watches every flat earth video to see who is making what claims.

The fact it exists is not a reason to spend our finite time on a half hour video if the presenter is unwilling to tell us why an extraordinary claim should even be considered.

 

[Pogo]

So if her ancestors really were slave owners would she have to pay reparations to herself?

Technically true if you ancestor was raped the rapist is also your ancestor, but is this what you have reduced yourself too?