Harris's Bigotry

[McBell]

Because you're giving up the, "See? We're better than that", advantage that Trump has so graciously handed to whoever winds up running against him.

Damn ethics and morals make life a lot less exciting...

 

[Quagmire]

Damn ethics and morals make life a lot less exciting...

Yeah, but hopefully they still carry at least a little bit of sway with at least some voters.

 

[Quagmire]

With as scary as the world is getting I know I'm not the only person who's hoping that we wind up with a grown up in the oval office this time.

Kamala Harris' statement strikes me as somewhat impulsive and ill considered, and possibly vindictive: "Ha ha! We get to use 'He's too old" now".

Typically, people don't pay a whole lot of attention to the VP or care all that much about who she is or what she stands for.

That can be an advantage for her: to a lot of people she's a blank canvas, she can paint whatever picture of herself she wants from here. I hope her team recognizes that and takes advantage of it. Her statements in this instace make me wonder.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

One is what one does.
Do bad things...be a bad guy.

I don’t agree that this is true 100% of the time.
Are veterans all murderers?

 

[Revoltingest]

MAGA folks would deny that calling Biden too old was bigotry...

Saying he's too old is an reasonable claim.
This differs from insulting someone as "old".

 

[Revoltingest]

I don’t agree that this is true 100% of the time.

When do you find bigotry to be a good thing?

Are veterans all murderers?

No.
Why do you ask?

 

[anna.]

I'm glad she stoped short of, "and smells funny".


It needs to be done with a certain amount of finesse though, otherwise you can wind up offending and alienating the wrong people.

In this case older voters.

I'm an older voter (early 60s) and it certainly doesn't alienate or offend me. In fact, I think a lot of older voters understand all too well how much it would take for someone to carry out the duties of leader of the free world when they were in their 80s. It takes a certain amount of hubris for a politician to assume everyone is A-ok with an 80+ year old in office - I know (online) of a lot of relieved Democrats today, and they're older too.

 

[anna.]

With as scary as the world is getting I know I'm not the only person who's hoping that we wind up with a grown up in the oval office this time.

Kamala Harris' statement strikes me as somewhat impulsive and ill considered, and possibly vindictive: "Ha ha! We get to use 'He's too old" now".

Typically, people don't pay a whole lot of attention to the VP or care all that much about who she is or what she stands for.

That can be an advantage for her: to a lot of people she's a blank canvas, she can paint whatever picture of herself she wants from here. I hope her team recognizes that and takes advantage of it. Her statements in this instace make me wonder.

If the worst thing she did was say "he's old" - compared to *everything* Trump has said and done - focusing on that sounds like a bit of pearl clutching to me.

 

[Quagmire]

If the worst thing she did was say "he's old" - compared to *everything* Trump has said and done - focusing on that sounds like a bit of pearl clutching to me.

I think it sounds that way to you because you're not really listening.

 

[Quagmire]

"She's not Trump" may be enough to get me to vote for her (maybe not), but it's definitely not enough to make me excited or optimistic about it.

 

[Quagmire]

I'm an older voter (early 60s) and it certainly doesn't alienate or offend me.

There's one vote.

In fact, I think a lot of older voters understand all too well

Just as a lot of older voters are going to flinch at what she said.

how much it would take for someone to carry out the duties of leader of the free world when they were in their 80s. It takes a certain amount of hubris for a politician to assume everyone is A-ok with an 80+ year old in office - I know (online) of a lot of relieved Democrats today, and they're older too.

"A lot" yes, but probably not enough that she can afford to alienate anyone.

 

[anna.]

I think it sounds that way to you because you're not really listening.

I think you think I'm not really listening because I'm not really agreeing with you.

 

[Kathryn]

People age differently. My dad was 79 when he died of an autoimmune disorder, and he didn't have a bit of dementia. My mom did though, and she got progressively worse till DEMENTIA killed her at age 80. So who knows?

 

[Quagmire]

I think you think I'm not really listening because I'm not really agreeing with you.

Maybe you should learn the difference between disagreement and disregard.

Let me know if you ever do.

 

[anna.]

Maybe you should learn the difference between disagreement and disregard.

Let me know if you ever do.

Nah.

 

[Quagmire]

Nah.

Didn't think so.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So if trump uses sexism, racism, & other bigotries,
does it become OK for Democrats to do the same?

Do you think that was what she was doing?

You doubt she said it?
Do you extend the same skepticism to Vance's statements in the news?
And finally, do you approve of her using "old" as an epithet?

I do not doubt that she said that, but context makes all of the difference in the world. And the article gives no context at all or even a way to reasonably check it. I am saying that it is too early to judge Harris on this one comment that clearly was taken out of context. Go check the article. There is no context given at all. That does not mean that she said it as I may have said it, but is also does not mean that she said it as you interpreted it. Hold off judgment until more evidence is in.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Age also brings experience & perspective.
Until one suffers decline, age can be good.

Harris just calls him "old". She doesn't make
an argument about age.
Is her barb any better than calling her the
"DEI" candidate?

I think, and it is indeed my own thoughts, she may be pointing it out to flip around what Trump was using against Biden.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

When do you find bigotry to be a good thing?

No.
Why do you ask?

Wow. Cantankerous much?
I can’t think of any situation when I find bigotry to be a good thing. That is why I only quoted the first half of your preceding post.
“One is what one does.
Do bad things...be a bad guy.”

To which I said, “I don’t agree that this is true 100% of the time.”
Then I posited the question, “Are veterans all murderers?” In an effort to allow you to see that doing ”bad things” (bombing, stabbing, shooting, and in many other ways killing young men (and undeniably the occasional innocent civilian)) has to be taken in context. And that if they (veterans in this example) ”do bad things” it does NOT necessarily make them “be a bad guy”.


If you want to bring it back to Harris, then using the same sword that tRump has wielded for years against Biden, just on one occasion in order to point out the idiot’s hypocrisy, is more of a stick in The Insurrectionist‘s eyeball than any indication that candidate Harris is an actual ageist bigot.
- tRump is undeniably an ageist, as he has demonstrated innumerable times while discussing Biden. Let’s say 900 marks against him.
- Harris, …. 1 mark against. So far.

[Sarcasm]. But hey! Don’t let my words or reality step in the way of besmirching that ageist bigot Harris, whose well-documented vast litany of bigoted comments just dig her a deep dark political grave. While her opponent, a veritable pillar of the downtrodden senior society, has done naught but rain praise upon seniors citizens wherever he has travelled. [\S].

 

[Daemon Sophic]

“Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.”​