Very true, but what they are doing by not celebrating holidays is they are obeying the angel who is saying, "get out of Babylon". Internet and fuel aren't religious. They believe Babylon the Great is all of false religion.
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Has anyone associated with JW's here? If so how was it?
It isn't?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I voted no because I believe all they have done here is try to defend false theology. They do list scriptural verses here but they don't have a clue what they mean.
I studied with the JWs a little while but the Holy Spirit would tell me afterwards that things were not right so I had to search the scriptures to find out the truth. It did help me learn the Bible. Evidently I was not easy to brainwash.
I don't believe the JW's have a valid case against Christmas or birthdays.
Seeing that the Bible says she is a mystery, she is. OK?
I'm just glad the J.W.'s are out there spreading "The Truth".
That can't be easy in a world with a closed mind that gets goofy
when they hear or read the noun "Jehovah".
If everyone were a J.W. there'd be no wars and that's a fact.
I could say bad things about a few individual J.W.'s but could to the same
with ALL denominations or lack of denominations.
People is people and tend to fall short of ideals and goals.
I had a J.W. buddy when a teen. I invited him to go night fishing.
He jumped at the chance to do "boy stuff".
We set up at night, lit the lanterns and he produced a Watchtower
and began reading it.
I thought we were fishing?
I guess it's how he justified having "fun" by studying the W.T. ?????
That is but one isolated incident and not an indictment of the entire
group.
I wish we had more J.W. posting here but I think the Governing Body
greatly frowns upon this sort of thing.
The thinking might be that "good" J.W.'s could be seriously damaged
by us.
We being heathens and "part of this world".
( I kinda resent that implication ya know.)
I recall back in 1994 I was loosely associated with a congregation of
J.W.'s and became a sworn police officer.
I was scolded and shunned for being a cop.
Better I'd been a drug dealer?
THEN to add insult to injury I got the opportunity to attend COLLEGE.
And DID; and earned TWO degrees.
I wasn't well thought of for that stunt either!
Kinda ticked off the elders who didn't want their own going to college.
In the congregation I attended many young men and women got
"the boot", kicked out, for going to college and other forbidden things.
Like dances, hanging out with friends, and such immoral activities.
That can't be easy in a world with a closed mind that gets goofy
when they hear or read the noun "Jehovah".
If everyone were a J.W. there'd be no wars and that's a fact.
I could say bad things about a few individual J.W.'s but could to the same
with ALL denominations or lack of denominations.
People is people and tend to fall short of ideals and goals.
I had a J.W. buddy when a teen. I invited him to go night fishing.
He jumped at the chance to do "boy stuff".
We set up at night, lit the lanterns and he produced a Watchtower
and began reading it.
I thought we were fishing?
I guess it's how he justified having "fun" by studying the W.T. ?????
That is but one isolated incident and not an indictment of the entire
group.
I wish we had more J.W. posting here but I think the Governing Body
greatly frowns upon this sort of thing.
The thinking might be that "good" J.W.'s could be seriously damaged
by us.
We being heathens and "part of this world".
( I kinda resent that implication ya know.)
I recall back in 1994 I was loosely associated with a congregation of
J.W.'s and became a sworn police officer.
I was scolded and shunned for being a cop.
Better I'd been a drug dealer?
THEN to add insult to injury I got the opportunity to attend COLLEGE.
And DID; and earned TWO degrees.
I wasn't well thought of for that stunt either!
Kinda ticked off the elders who didn't want their own going to college.
In the congregation I attended many young men and women got
"the boot", kicked out, for going to college and other forbidden things.
Like dances, hanging out with friends, and such immoral activities.
They are right that Jesus should not be celebrated alongside profits.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe being tolerant to heathens is not a great claim to fame. It sounds pretty revolting to me. Considering that they bash Christians on a regular basis one might wonder which side they are on.
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
Only a member of the watchtower would say this! Only a member of the watchtower would claim they are 'perfect' individuals! Only a member of the watchtower would 'boast' about themselves this way!
So the Bible is wrong again, Jesus wasn't the only "PERFECT", "SINLESS" person that walked the earth!
Never lie? Please!
Apparently you just believe what you hear, and don't check it out first. You claim the watchtower members "know the entire inspired word of God", but one of your leaders, Losch, says, in a 2016 video on jw.org, that you are "still roving about". If you are still "roving about" how can you have or know "the entire inspired word of God"? If you have it all, why are you still seeking?
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I don't believe there is a Babylon behind every bush or tree either. At any rate did anyone ever try to understand the druids? It wasn't Christianity so it had to be eradicated. That has been the history of Christianity: slash and burn.
Perhaps they get along poorly with some Xians because of the expectation of agreement....the shared
source (the Bible), you know. But they don't expect us heathens to agree on religion. But there are
many other things which can be agreed upon, or things which can be argued over dispassionately.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe if they are doing that they should stop but I have never done that. So do you have a problem with Christmas craft fairs at churches? Maybe we could get a pagan to buy something pretty and help support the church, lol.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe if you lack passion you might as well be dead but I also believe one might go off the rails with too much passion. I can always get my JW going by playing Christmas music on the radio. I suppose it is less than charitable of me to tease him that way but if one is going to be ridiculous one should expect to be the brunt of jokes.
The ability to regulate one's passion is useful.
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
Internet and fuel is "part of this world" owned and operated by satan, and they are to be "no part of this world"!
I have not said that they aren't hypocritical.
Soooooooooooooo many denominations of Christians world wide.
J.W.'s just one of what some might consider on the "fringe".
Who can say who is right or wrong or if ANY denomination is spot
on "right"?
Number of Christian Denominations
How many Christian denominations are there?
About 34,000.
So how can I conclude the Baptists, J.W.'s, Catholics, etc. are right or
wrong in the dogma they espouse as the "truth"?
Muslims?
Many; Sunnis Shias, ahmadiyyas, Quraniyoon, Ibadi etc
it is said that there will be 72 sects until dooms day comes.
Consider Christians: Those on the right fringe believe they are correct
and view those on the left fringe
as least "way out there" if not for sure hell bound.
The reverse is of course true.
Those in the mainstream religions, Catholic, Baptist, Protestants, etc.
view those on the far right and left with extreme suspicion and
think perhaps psychological intervention might be in order.
I mean can you see a devout Catholic knocking on doors trying to
peddle the Catholic Digest Magazine?
About 34,000 denominations of Christians ALL reading the SAME book.
Incredible.
72 "sects" of Muslims and about 34,000 "sects" of Christianity.
So for us Christians please pick me the one right, accurate, and true
Christian denomination.
A conundrum if ever there was one.
J.W.'s just one of what some might consider on the "fringe".
Who can say who is right or wrong or if ANY denomination is spot
on "right"?
Number of Christian Denominations
How many Christian denominations are there?
About 34,000.
So how can I conclude the Baptists, J.W.'s, Catholics, etc. are right or
wrong in the dogma they espouse as the "truth"?
Muslims?
Many; Sunnis Shias, ahmadiyyas, Quraniyoon, Ibadi etc
it is said that there will be 72 sects until dooms day comes.
Consider Christians: Those on the right fringe believe they are correct
and view those on the left fringe
as least "way out there" if not for sure hell bound.
The reverse is of course true.
Those in the mainstream religions, Catholic, Baptist, Protestants, etc.
view those on the far right and left with extreme suspicion and
think perhaps psychological intervention might be in order.
I mean can you see a devout Catholic knocking on doors trying to
peddle the Catholic Digest Magazine?
About 34,000 denominations of Christians ALL reading the SAME book.
Incredible.
72 "sects" of Muslims and about 34,000 "sects" of Christianity.
So for us Christians please pick me the one right, accurate, and true
Christian denomination.
A conundrum if ever there was one.
They're coming to take me away, hey, hey,
And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away ha ha
No! NO! It's THIS religion that's righteous and made up of only the
chosen few!
Feeling lost brothers and sisters? Father Monopoly has THE answer.
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34,000 denominations of Christians all reading the same book!
(ah, cheesh! I need a shrink.)
And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away ha ha
No! NO! It's THIS religion that's righteous and made up of only the
chosen few!
Feeling lost brothers and sisters? Father Monopoly has THE answer.
For your personal answer, signed by Jesus Himself, just sent $9.99
to Father Found and the Foundation of the Found so you need no
longer be lost but once again Found.
You will receive a photograph of Jesus Himself as seen floating in a
cloud over Bikini Atoll after the last H-Bomb test.
34,000 denominations of Christians all reading the same book!
(ah, cheesh! I need a shrink.)
I just noticed this thread today.
While my beliefs differ from that of the Jehovahs witnesses, I have had nothing but pleasant interactions with them when I have met Jehovahs witnesses in social circles. I have nothing but the greatest respect for individuals and groups that sacrifice their time and resources and who will endure persecution patiently for their beliefs.
While I myself, have critiqued some of their doctrines (I hope I was fair...) I do believe the JWs suffer a great deal of unnecessary bias and obtuse persecution from other christianities who seek to portray their theology in biased ways.
I would be very happy to have active and convinced JWs as neighbors since I think that, when they are living their religion, they will be trustworthy and kind and honest. This does not mean I will agree with them, but that I am quite able to respect them and desire to be in the company of individuals who live those specific principles.
Clear
While my beliefs differ from that of the Jehovahs witnesses, I have had nothing but pleasant interactions with them when I have met Jehovahs witnesses in social circles. I have nothing but the greatest respect for individuals and groups that sacrifice their time and resources and who will endure persecution patiently for their beliefs.
While I myself, have critiqued some of their doctrines (I hope I was fair...) I do believe the JWs suffer a great deal of unnecessary bias and obtuse persecution from other christianities who seek to portray their theology in biased ways.
I would be very happy to have active and convinced JWs as neighbors since I think that, when they are living their religion, they will be trustworthy and kind and honest. This does not mean I will agree with them, but that I am quite able to respect them and desire to be in the company of individuals who live those specific principles.
Clear
RitalinOD
New Member
Nothing like that good 'ol Christian tolerance.
A blanket statement you have zero evidence for.
The side of reason, obviously.
Not very "Christian" of someone claiming to be a Christian.