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Has anyone tried the religious belief consistency test?

For a test designed to show 'consistency' (in a very smug and self-satisfied manner), probably should have made more of an effort not to be inconsistent :D

You have to be inconsistent in your beliefs to 'pass' the test.


You've taken a direct hit!


Earlier you responded that it is rational to believe the Loch Ness monster does not exist if there is an absence of strong evidence or argument that it does. No strong evidence or argument was required to show that the monster does not exist - absence of evidence or argument was enough. But now you claim that the atheist needs to be able to provide strong arguments or evidence if their belief in the non-existence of God is to be rational rather than a matter of faith.

The contradiction is that on the first occasion (Loch Ness monster) you agreed that the absence of evidence or argument is enough to justify belief in the non-existence of the Loch Ness monster, but on this occasion (God), you do not.


The previous question was about people having searched for the monster without finding evidence it existed (thus was an argument for it not existing).

In the absence of arguments or evidence that God doesn't exist then it is a matter of faith. Having no evidence that something exists is an argument that it doesn't exist though given it either exists or it doesn't. This is what the monster argument showed.

I don't believe atheism is a matter of faith, I believe there are arguments (not proof) against God's existence.


You've taken a direct hit!


Earlier you said that even in the absence of independent evidence, it is justified to base one's beliefs about the external world on a firm, inner-conviction. But now you do not accept that the serial murderer Peter Sutcliffe was justified in doing just that. The example of the killer has exposed that you do not in fact think that a belief is justified just because one is convinced of its truth. So you need to revise your opinion here. The intellectual sniper has scored a bull's-eye!


Many of our moral values are built on a strong inner-conviction that they are correct with no independent evidence that the are correct. They are subjective value preferences, but ones we think should also be held by other people (thus being about the external world). These are justified because they lead to positive consequences, not because they are objectively true.

Someone being justified in believing God told him to kill people would require God actually existing.
 

Moonjuice

In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
Haha. I know this one. Its a cheap trick. This one is used to demonstrate how people can manipulate others to get pretty much whatever they want.
This is how to feel better about yourself after failing a test you think you are too smart to take.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
"About you" has me stumped! If I say "Christain", it isn't that one religion that I can trust.

But, I think that I might believe in most Christians. I NEVER! want to mislead anyone (may I make a kind request that you do not want that too?)
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
I didn't escape unscathed!

Battleground God - Analysis


You navigated the battlefield suffering one hit and biting one bullet, which represents an overall performance at the 71th percentile (i.e., 71% of scores are worse than yours). The tables on the right show how your performance compares to the other 114635 people who have completed Battleground God.

Guess I need to touch up on my logical reasoning. :D
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I decided to be an atheist to do the quiz as a good shot at a consistent easy-to-answer position.
I saw the question of belief in god without impossible evidence as something to take a swipe at atheists and theists alike who haven't much considered the nature of evidence and proof and what those things actually are.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
“100% no hits”, whatever that means.

I wonder if whoever created the test expected me to agree that “the torture of innocents is morally wrong” (I don’t, and who is really “innocent”?), that without God there can be no morality (morality is entirely subjective), that any being who could be called God would want a world with as little suffering as possible (why would anyone want to live in a g-rated movie?) , or that this or that is “justified” for whatever reason (“Justify” is one of my least favorite words, I do not feel any obligation to “justify” my actions to other people).
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
I agree, which is why I answered those "false." But agree that for an agnostic the questions were sort of N/A.
I also agree. The survey seemed to wish to bottle us all up into ‘atheist’ or ‘theist’. :(
Disappointingly limited.

I scored 40% with 2 direct hits and a bitten bullet. :rolleyes:
But I would point out the obvious that the presence or absence of a prehistoric reptile in a freshwater lake measuring X by Y miles in Scotland has absolutely nothing to tell us about the presence or absence of unknown God or gods in the universe, with indiscernible morality, power, and plans: who could be anywhere and/or everywhere yet nowhere in the multi-verse.

Also being able to do ‘anything’ does not exclude It from the constraints of the rules of the universe. Keep in mind that if It wants a different set of rules, It can create a different universe. But in this universe 1+1 will never equal 72.

Both of the above points lead to the bitten bullet. Yes. Obviously, proof of God (or even gods) requires a higher level of proof than draining ponds and looking for reptiles. :confused:
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
It's interesting, and only takes a few minutes. And you might be surprised at how you fare.

Battleground God

3 hits and 2 bullets, but it was not a good survey.

It lacked knowledge about what many Faiths are all about and what many Faiths contain.

The responses received to bullets were amusingly ignorant of the logic and proofs Faith offers.

It was amusing that God was She.

Regards Tony
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I got 71% like Rival, but I considered evolution scientific fact and that's not really my fault, and they hit me on the loch ness monster vs atheism - how stupid! I don't need to be taught about the loch ness monster.
No, perhaps you don't need to be taught about Nessie. The thing is, though, that if you suppose that after years and years of effort trying to find evidence for that Scots cutie turning up nothing leads you to the conclusion she doesn't exist, then why would you not have the same reaction to the lack of evidence for any deity?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, I had one inconsistent answer. Perhaps I should have not rushed through it. Evolution has zero to do with my religious beliefs, which, anyway, are not enslaved to notions of consistency, rationality or other tenets of Western analytical philosophy. But then that is why there is so much talking past each other on this forum.
Well, let's look at this thread. A bunch of Westerners take a test and instead of actually discussing it they decide it's a bad test, for among other reasons that it's biased towards Westerners.
That defensiveness is also why there's a lot of talking past each other. Like, if evolution doesn't have anything to do with your beliefs, cool. But it's being asked because it asks if you accept evolution and it doesn't define or stipulate the quality of evidence and some religions outright reject evolution. And then it asks on your views on believing in god a quality of evidence defined.
And it's not just you. Look at how many people became defensive over this test and actually took it more seriously than ever intended.
The fact it's a lot of "it isn't me, it's the test" without actually being able to describe and discuss why, THAT is why there is so much talking past each other.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No, perhaps you don't need to be taught about Nessie. The thing is, though, that if you suppose that after years and years of effort trying to find evidence for that Scots cutie turning up nothing leads you to the conclusion she doesn't exist, then why would you not have the same reaction to the lack of evidence for any deity?
People can believe in Nessie without evidence. I believe I've found evidence for God. No contradiction.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, perhaps you don't need to be taught about Nessie. The thing is, though, that if you suppose that after years and years of effort trying to find evidence for that Scots cutie turning up nothing leads you to the conclusion she doesn't exist, then why would you not have the same reaction to the lack of evidence for any deity?
Looks like your thread turned into a great follow up for all that talk of critically examining one's beliefs.
Because judging by this thread many aren't. And Westerners taking a test and complaining the test is biased towards Westerners? Priceless. That's been my favorite excuse so far.
 
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