Has GOP/US right gone as mad as it seems?

[tytlyf]

Right wingers seem to forget that Hispanic immigrants are generally social conservatives.

But catholics aren't "true christians" to these people. (catholicism is the first church of christianity)
RW christians are into speaking in tongues, not speaking mexican...

 

[ecco]

Fake News. IF Trump actually incited violence, the propagandists would play the clip 24/7 of his exact words ... THE MORE YOU KNOW!

Some of us don't need propagandists to play anything over and over. Some of us actually took the time to read the text of the entire speech. Did you?

Among other things, he said:

"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy," he said. "And after this, we're going to walk down — and I'll be there with you — we're going to walk down ... to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women."​

Just one more Trump lie. Much to the disappointment of many Trump supporters, he did not walk with them. Not much of a leader is he?

Also, many of your Q's predictions did not come true.

The fact that JFK Jr. didn’t come back on Saturday October 17th at a Trump rally, is only one of many QAnon “prophecies” that haven’t come to fruition: Hillary Clinton has not been arrested, high profile elites have not been killed or sent to Guantanamo Bay, the hundred thousand sealed indictments were not released, and the promised Golden Age has not been delivered.​

Freedom is deciding for yourself - not submitting to your political betters.

Freedom is sure as hell not believing massive conspiracy theories. Believing conspiracy theories is just clear evidence of a complete lack of critical thinking skills brought on, in large part, by being indoctrinated as a child into religious mumbo-jumbo.


[QUOTE="Wrangler, post: 7013469, member: 71022" Try again to explain how my eyes and ears lied to me.[/QUOTE]

Since you haven't said what your eyes and ears have seen and heard, I wouldn't be able to respond to that.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nah, that's a bigger motive on the right. Take immigration for example.
Rightwingers think the motives of immigrants are to vote democratic, live on freebies, murder and rape, take er jerbs and spread deadly diseases.

Some of us try to verify the motives. Not being a dittohead taking the word of grifters.

What’s your motive for entering into the conversation?

 

[tytlyf]

What’s your motive for entering into the conversation?

I have a problem interjecting myself when I see questionable information being passed around. For debating purposes, we have to be as specific as possible (and accurate)

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What’s your motive for entering into the conversation?

Do you really think that is an appropriate question in a public, online debate forum?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Do you really think that is an appropriate question in a public, online debate forum?

Yes I do

 

[metis]

Thanks for your interest in this subject, if you look into all the facts and not the skewed view of propagandist and our censorship, cancel culture media you can find the truth. I’ve already said all I wanted on this subject and moved on. I hope Biden does the US right and fulfills his job according to the Constitution. Do you know what the President’s job is according to the Constitution?

You shouldn’t try to judge the motives of people and that’s another problem with you all on the left and in the media.

Can you post anything without parroting right-wing propaganda? Maybe try and do some studying, and then maybe also try and prevent yourself for stereotyping others.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Can you post anything without parroting right-wing propaganda? Maybe try and do some studying, and then maybe also try and prevent yourself for stereotyping others.

I can, what about you? The person falsely judged my motives as I was done with the conversation and stated why. The media doesn’t report the whole truth, they manipulate stories, report the motives of people instead of just reporting the whole story and let people form their own opinions. The question I did ask was do you know the job description of the President according to the Constitution?

 

[Suave]

That's just silly-talk... I don't know of a single republican willing to abolish minimum wage laws, or who wants to repeal *all* regulation on business and industry, yet you claim right-wingers are "anti-socialist"...

Our differences are only in degrees, emphasis and priority.

We progressive Democrats favor a livable minimum wage of $15/hours in contrast to Republicans who want to keep starvation wages at a federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/26/why-minimum-wage-is-right-fight-democrats-take/

 

[ElishaElijah]

I can, what about you? The person falsely judged my motives as I was done with the conversation and stated why. The media doesn’t report the whole truth, they manipulate stories, report the motives of people instead of just reporting the whole story and let people form their own opinions. The question I did ask was do you know the job description of the President according to the Constitution?

We progressive Democrats favor a livable minimum wage of $15/hours in contrast to Republicans who want to keep starvation wages at a federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/26/why-minimum-wage-is-right-fight-democrats-take/

We progressive Democrats favor a livable minimum wage of $15/hours in contrast to Republicans who want to keep starvation wages at a federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/26/why-minimum-wage-is-right-fight-democrats-take/

$15 an hour for a head of household is starvation wages.
$7.25 an hour for a part time or entry level employee is not.
This is a problem with the way the government operates, they try to make one size fits all and it doesn’t work.

 

[Suave]

$15 an hour for a head of household is starvation wages.
$7.25 an hour for a part time or entry level employee is not.
This is a problem with the way the government operates, they try to make one size fits all and it doesn’t work.

A living wage must at least be greater than the poverty level. Edit: Almost any American resident nowadays making the minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be below the poverty level.

 

[ElishaElijah]

A living wage must at least be greater than the poverty level. A worker making the minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be below the poverty level.

I agree with you about that. No way should a “head of household” make less than $15 an hour.
What I saying is $7.25 an hour for a part time, entry level employee is fair, what isn’t fair is an employer having to pay this employee $15 an hour when they are part time with little or no experience.

 

[tytlyf]

$15 an hour for a head of household is starvation wages.

The majority of the American workers make under $10 per hour.

$7.25 an hour for a part time or entry level employee is not.

According to you? Cost of living has increased over the decades and the MW has not kept pace.

This is a problem with the way the government operates, they try to make one size fits all and it doesn’t work.

Nope. That attitude is what capitalist and greedy corporations say. Corporations hate the government because the govt keeps these capitalist's and corporations from paying people $1 per hour.

I'd wager you wouldn't have a problem with $1 per hour.

 

[ElishaElijah]

The majority of the American workers make under $10 per hour.

According to you? Cost of living has increased over the decades and the MW has not kept pace.

Nope. That attitude is what capitalist and greedy corporations say. Corporations hate the government because the govt keeps these capitalist's and corporations from paying people $1 per hour.

I'd wager you wouldn't have a problem with $1 per hour.

No, I don’t think you are understanding me

 

[Suave]

I agree with you about that. No way should a “head of household” make less than $15 an hour.
What I saying is $7.25 an hour for a part time, entry level employee is fair, what isn’t fair is an employer having to pay this employee $15 an hour when they are part time with little or no experience.

The purpose of minimum wage laws is to prevent employers from exploiting desperate workers. The minimum wage should provide enough income to afford a living wage. That is the amount needed to provide enough food, clothing, and shelter.

A higher minimum wage reduces income inequality while providing an incentive to work. The incentive makes it better for society than welfare or a universal basic income.

Workers who can cover the cost of living have better morale. They are more productive if they have a decent standard of living.

Minimum wage laws benefit individual businesses. Workers are less likely to leave to find a higher-paying job. This reduces turnover and expensive retraining costs.

 

[tytlyf]

No, I don’t think you are understanding me

I do understand you. It's the same thing every conservative says.

You think 'entry level' workers and students out of high school who don't have skills should be paid $7 per hour.
You think 'experienced' workers and heads of household don't work hard enough if they're only making $15 per hour.

 

[Yerda]

The majority of the American workers make under $10 per hour.

According to you? Cost of living has increased over the decades and the MW has not kept pace.

Nope. That attitude is what capitalist and greedy corporations say. Corporations hate the government because the govt keeps these capitalist's and corporations from paying people $1 per hour.

I'd wager you wouldn't have a problem with $1 per hour.

It's worth noting that the countries whose politics hasn't been dominated by anti-union hysterics and politically sponsored union busting activity don't have (or need) minimum wages. In the US and UK right wing politics created the conditions where a minimum wage was necessary (often subsidised by the taxpayer) to prevent people going under and then threw a tantrum when people tried to fix the problem they had made.

The owner class depends on the exploitation of easily expended, disorganised labour.

 

[ElishaElijah]

The purpose of minimum wage laws is to prevent employers from exploiting desperate workers. The minimum wage should provide enough income to afford a living wage. That is the amount needed to provide enough food, clothing, and shelter.
I agree with all that already, the application of this should be for “head of household” employees. If you want a minimum wage of $15 an hour for people that fit “head of household” then fine but even $15 an hour isn’t high enough for those people.
Now for those young people who are working part time, entry level employees should be excluded from this and employers should be able to pay these kind of employees $7.25 an hour.
Don’t know how else to say it for you.

A higher minimum wage reduces income inequality while providing an incentive to work. The incentive makes it better for society than welfare or a universal basic income.

Workers who can cover the cost of living have better morale. They are more productive if they have a decent standard of living.

Minimum wage laws benefit individual businesses. Workers are less likely to leave to find a higher-paying job. This reduces turnover and expensive retraining costs.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I do understand you. It's the same thing every conservative says.

You think 'entry level' workers and students out of high school who don't have skills should be paid $7 per hour.
You think 'experienced' workers and heads of household don't work hard enough if they're only making $15 per hour.

No that’s not what I think

 

[tytlyf]

No that’s not what I think

That's basically what you said and/or think.
How about you explain it easier?