Has Music Died?

[Shadow Wolf]

LOVE THE NEW AVATAR LUKE_WOLF!! :jam:

Thanks. I saw it, and fell in love with the white fur, and the gaze from the black eyes.

 

[Scarlett Wampus]

Ridiculous! Remarkable music is produced all the time. Trends fall into inauthenticity and imitation but the power of true creativity is irrepressible. Past glories are unique so they seem as though they've died yet they too sprung from ashes like a wild pheonix. Every week I think I hear something new that shines like magic in the world.

 

[Druidus]

Intelligent people throughout history have said this same thing: "music has died." The thing is, it hasn't. It lives on, just as it always has. Do you think that today's crap is going to be remembered in fifty years? I don't think so. We're going to remember the usually tragic few who actually cared about the art, and our kids will be uttering the same, old chant: "music has died." I tell ya what; no, it hasn't, and it won't. Your generation didn't have a monopoly on virtue, and neither does ours. Similarly, our generation doesn't have a monopoly on greed and ignorance, and neither did yours, pal. Neither did your favorite or least favorite generation. There are and always will be a few out there who actually care about the art, and, as usual, we'll most likely never really appreciate it until long after its makers are gone and wonder, as we always have, what damnable thing possessed us to ignore or even speak spitefully of these wonderful, talented people when they were still there to hear any appreciation that might have been directed at them. We'll wonder why we didn't see the beauty of what they were trying to do before we even fully realized that they existed. It goes on, and it never ends. Greatness is and nearly always has been a thankless task, and, fortunately, great people don't really care.

First of all, if that's directed at me, I'm 16. I'm part of your generation. And I do think that our generation is the greediest of the past three quarters of a century. Second of all, chill, man. Have a beer, a joint, whatever, just calm down, we're all friends here (hopefully). I know that there are those out there who still care. They're just very hard to find. Perhaps music hasn't died, it's just been imprisoned by the current "masters" of the media. In fact, I'm inclined to believe this now, having read what I have.

Or were they on LSD?

Probably not. LSD became popular with the masses as a recreational drug shortly before they broke up. Even then it was relatively rare.

Edit:

Scratch my previous statement. I did some research. Apparently George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr all admitted to having used LSD in "The Beatles Anthology". Sorry for my misinformation.

Oh, no! The computer music isn't real! It isn't real music because a computer makes it! It doesn't sound as good because someone didn't make his fingers bleed while making it! Really, this is something for another thread, and I'm in a bark over it. Hold on just ONE minute while I explain thoroughly why my britches are in a bundle.

Again, chill! I like synthesized music too. I used to get a lot of it from OCRemix, but not so much anymore. I couldn't care less whether someone makes music with conventional instruments or with a computer, as long as they feel the "spirit" of the music; as long as they care about what they are making and aren't doing it soley or mostly for money. Even if they are doing it for money, as long as they care enough about the music to make it well (not an abstract, or a relative. Anyone can tell the difference between crap and better than crap).

 

[BUDDY]

I think that like most things, personal opinion has a lot to do with this question. There are many different people with many different tastes, so I think that you have to narrow down the genre to decide whether or not the quality of the music has died or not. For example, if you were to look at where jazz is now compared to thirty years ago, I think that you will find it has declined quite a bit. Whereas with rock music, there is still a lot of good stuff out there, you just can't look to your favorite radio station to find it. For example, I like Pearl Jam which is still touring and still relevant, but I can't remember the last time I heard one of their song on the radio and I have never heard any of there music fromt eh last four years on the radio. I also like 311 whcich is semi-popular, but you only ever hear one of there somgs lately and it isn't even one of their best ones. Then there are bands like Sparta which never get any airtime, but are great and talented rock bands. Also, in my opinion, popular music is crap for the most part. They remind me more of catchy jingles for television commercials than of real emotionally relavent music. I think it is still out there, you just really have to care enough to dig for it.

 

[jeffrey]

Skynyrd, Deep Purple, Foghat, The Doobie Brothers, The James Gang, ....And to Quote Bob Seger.... Just takes those old records off the shelf.... I 'll sit and listen to them by myself... Today's music ain't got the same soul... I'll take my old time Rock n Roll!

 

[BUDDY]

By the way, great to see you back Druidus.

On the subject of music though, I have a question. At what point did MTV go from the rebel television station that played great videos, to an absolute corporate sellout. MY theory is that is was the day they decided to do an awards show, but I may be wrong.

Rock on man, rock on.

Buddy

 

[retrorich]

My deepest thoughts are that music died with Ludwig Van Beethoven, but I'm just an obsessive fan so I would say that...

Yes, Beethoven was definitely the high point of musical creativity. His fifth symphony was, IMHO, the greatest piece of music ever written. His third and seventh were also masterpieces. Brahms was very good--especially his first symphony--but not quite a match for Ludwig.

As far as popular music is concerned, I don't like much done since the 60s and 70s.

But there is always hopes for the future.

 

[Druidus]

Yes, Beethoven was definitely the high point of musical creativity. His fifth symphony was, IMHO, the greatest piece of music ever written. His third and seventh were also masterpieces. Brahms was very good, but not quite a match for Ludwig.

I have a preference for his Ninth and Seventh symphonies. Unfortunately, I haven't heard his First, Second, Third, Fourth, or Fifth in a long time, due to the fact that I have no access to them. As a child I heard them though, and my young mind did like them. Do you know where I could find a free full-orchestral playing of them (any of them would be nice, I only have the 6th and up) to download?

 

[BUDDY]

I have a preference for his Ninth and Seventh symphonies. Unfortunately, I haven't heard his First, Second, Third, Fourth, or Fifth in a long time, due to the fact that I have no access to them. As a child I heard them though, and my young mind did like them. Do you know where I could find a free full-orchestral playing of them (any of them would be nice, I only have the 6th and up) to download?

Good question. I did a quick search and couldn't find anything downloadable. I did find a listing for symphonies 1-9 on CD at Amazon for $15, and performed by the Hungarian Philharmonic. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001VVY/102-3330403-6231365?v=glance&n=5174
Good Luck and I hope you can find something on-line rather than have to buy.

 

[Druidus]

Again, I must express my kudos in a means other than frubals. Thanks for the link; if I cannot find it online, I'll probably buy that CD.

 

[Ody]

Music died with jerry garcia

 

[Aqualung]

Perhaps, but that was just a huge coincidence that Garcia died the same day.

 

[WeAreAllOne]

I think everyone who thinks music has died is just looking in the wrong places. step one: turn off the radio. The best way to find the best music is to look for the stuff that isn't pop music. if your into the heavyer stuff check out bands like AFI or Atrayu <-sp? You could even go check out the local bands. There is so much out there that most people have never heard of. I'm babbling. just my 2 cents

 

[Buttons*]

*hums American Pie* ...."the day the music died!"
I dont think music is dead, it's just been badly wounded, and in need of some doctoring... quickly!

 

[Ulver]

Music is good and well I think. Even when it's doing poorly in the mainstream (of whatever genre it is) then that's the time the underground legends usually start making waves "underground" as it were.

As for Mainstream rock, I'd say there hasn't been much of anything big since Nirvana. But Nine Inch Nails (more rock than industrial now), System of a Down, A Perfect Circle and Queens of the Stone Age are pushing some really good material into the rather larger scene.

For Metal there's tons and tons of bands that are good, and if you've lost "faith" in that genre then PM me and i'll list and give links to at least 20 meaningful bands today.

For good music that was released in 2005 I suggest checking HERE! This is a site that holds Pink Floyd and 70's era Genesis to the highest regard and these recommendations are at least in the same field (of sorts) when it comes to the vision of where music should go for people.

 

[YmirGF]

Not dead, no. But the record exec's have certainly streamlined the creativity channels.

It is hard getting good music played if it is not in a obvious commercial format.

 

[painted wolf]

sucky music will always be with us... even the much idolized 60's and 70's had crappy music.

today you simply have more to choose from, more bands, more styles, more countries are begining to compete with the US/UK music monolith.
The consumer then has to work more at finding what they want... so get looking if you don't like what you hear on the radio, change the channel or better yet, turn it off. Good music is all around you waiting for you to listen.

wa:do

 

[ChrisP]

sucky music will always be with us... even the much idolized 60's and 70's had crappy music.

today you simply have more to choose from, more bands, more styles, more countries are begining to compete with the US/UK music monolith.
The consumer then has to work more at finding what they want... so get looking if you don't like what you hear on the radio, change the channel or better yet, turn it off. Good music is all around you waiting for you to listen.

wa:do

I think it's a case of the good 60s and 70s stuff endured, the crapola did not.

Can't see it happening but who knows, maybe we'll all look back in 20 years and go "Oh Yeah, I really enjoyed that band... N'Sync :biglaugh: "

 

[retrorich]

I have a preference for his Ninth and Seventh symphonies.

Beethoven's Ninth Symphony is greatly inferior to his others. It is overly long and totally boring. I think he had lost much of his ability by the time he wrote that. Including a vocal chorus in a symphony was ridiculous.

 

[jeffrey]

Well,was long as we don't regress to the 'Disco' era... UGH! Gonna get sick!