Have You Ever Seriously Considered Suicide?

[Tabu]

When you are in deep depression no words can bring you out of it, no matter how beautiful.

That's true a depressed person already has loads of guilt and regret , ascertaining the person that his/her past deeds were responsible could make it worse , and add to the weight of guilt and regret and make it unbearable and chocking.
Suggesting ways to come out of guilt and regret are beneficial.

 

[psychoslice]

That's true a depressed person already has loads of guilt and regret , ascertaining the person that his/her past deeds were responsible could make it worse , and add to the weight of guilt and regret and make it unbearable and chocking.
Suggesting ways to come out of guilt and regret are beneficial.

Yes guilt can be a factor, but not always, it could be neuro-chemicals. we are at the mercy of chemical and hormones, and if any of these are not balanced we suffer in many ways, this is why most time we need medication to keep the balance, but yea guilt and regret does play a part.

 

[Tabu]

Yes guilt can be a factor, but not always, it could be neuro-chemicals. we are at the mercy of chemical and hormones, and if any of these are not balanced we suffer in many ways, this is why most time we need medication to keep the balance, but yea guilt and regret does play a part.

In my case , initially it was medication which helped , but fearing the side effects , I left medications and started meditations which were very beneficial and guilt free.

 

[psychoslice]

In my case , initially it was medication which helped , but fearing the side effects , I left medications and started meditations which were very beneficial and guilt free.

Yes I have heard good reports on meditation, I myself have schizophrenia, it helps to meditate but I can't go without ant-psychotics, tried to go of them but ended up in hospital.

 

[Tabu]

it could be neuro-chemicals. we are at the mercy of chemical and hormones, and if any of these are not balanced we suffer in many ways, this is why most time we need medication to keep the balance,

Do you feel that we have no control over these turbulent chemicals.
Cant we ease them gradually?

 

[illykitty]

Many times, never left a note but I couldn't go through with it. I'm not scared of death, I'm scared of pain. I have very little pain tolerance. But now I also have a few reasons to live and I wouldn't want to cause others pain from this act. I still get depressed but I often try to think that I'm in a precipice but that another day I could be at the top of a mountain. I think of what happy events may happen in the future and cling to that hope.

 

[Rival]

Many times, never left a note but I couldn't go through with it. I'm not scared of death, I'm scared of pain. I have very little pain tolerance. But now I also have a few reasons to live and I wouldn't want to cause others pain from this act. I still get depressed but I often try to think that I'm in a precipice but that another day I could be at the top of a mountain. I think of what happy events may happen in the future and cling to that hope.

This is the part that troubles me the most though. Many times, a person wants to die for very logical reasons:

- The economy is bad
- Can't find employment
- Is percieved as a failure for still living with parents etc.
- Lives in a bad area and cannot move

etc.

But chooses to live for rather, imo, redundant emotional reasons:

- Have hope
- People love you
- It would cause others to feel guilt

It's like...well that's great, but having a family who loves me doesn't pay bills; it won't find me a job and it certainly has no effect on the economy.

In my opinion, logic and reason trump emotions. The idea that we live simply because we are loved or have hope is quite silly to me.

 

[Tabu]

This is the part that troubles me the most though. Many times, a person wants to die for very logical reasons:

- The economy is bad
- Can't find employment
- Is percieved as a failure for still living with parents etc.
- Lives in a bad area and cannot move

etc.

But chooses to live for rather, imo, redundant emotional reasons:

- Have hope
- People love you
- It would cause others to feel guilt

It's like...well that's great, but having a family who loves me doesn't pay bills; it won't find me a job and it certainly has no effect on the economy.

In my opinion, logic and reason trump emotions. The idea that we live simply because we are loved or have hope is quite silly to me.

Different things work for different people , for some the reasons could be emotional , for some logical .
How about finding a logical reason to live ?

 

[Rival]

How about finding a logical reason to live ?

Like?

 

[Tabu]

Like?

Like , first you need to figure out what your logical reasons are for not living,
and build stronger reasons against those reasoning and concentrate on them.
Lets consider those negative emotions playing on ours minds to be a certain virus ,
the protection would be to build and keep your anti virus ready and installed .
As soon as you recognize this virus has started playing , now replace and play the anti virus.
Make this a practice , with time you will learn to recognize the virus and act faster.
( If you can provide me with your logical reasons for not living ,need not give me all the details , but just a broad outlook on the issues which bother, can help you figure out the logical reasons for living , or you can start a private conversation with me)

 

[Rival]

Like , first you need to figure out what your logical reasons are for not living,

I've already mentioned.

Bad economy, can't find a job, still live with parents (one of whom is a drunk), live in a terrible area where there are families two or three to a house, bills and taxes are too high while wages remain low and only become lower, the NHS is in ruins and I have no partner so I can't procreate.

And that's kind of just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm not a functional member of society. I do nothing.

 

[Tabu]

I've already mentioned.

Bad economy, can't find a job, still live with parents (one of whom is a drunk), live in a terrible area where there are families two or three to a house, bills and taxes are too high while wages remain low and only become lower, the NHS is in ruins and I have no partner so I can't procreate.

And that's kind of just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm not a functional member of society. I do nothing.

Basically your concerns are economical.
Do you believe that there could be people ( or would have been people) who would be in a similar economic situation , but are able to cope with it?
Do you think every person who is faced with a similar economic situation will react similiarly, or will there be different responses.
Why ?

 

[Rival]

Basically your concerns are economical.
Do you believe that there could be people ( or would have been people) who would be in a similar economic situation , but are able to cope with it?
Do you think every person who is faced with a similar economic situation will react similiarly, or will there be different responses.
Why ?

Because people are different.

This is my response.

 

[Tabu]

Because people are different.

This is my response.

So it is 'my response' to the situation which is the culprit , not the situation by itself.

Now, can I change 'my response' to the situation.?

 

[Rival]

So it is 'my response' to the situation which is the culprit , not the situation by itself.

Now, can I change 'my response' to the situation.?

This is my response to a bad situation. Things are the way they are because the situation is bad.

I want to die because the world around me is bad.

Not because I am bad.

The latter could be changed if I believed it, but the former....no.

Am I supposed to go on in a bad situation? Why?

 

[Tabu]

This is my response to a bad situation. Things are the way they are because the situation is bad.

I want to die because the world around me is bad.

Not because I am bad.

The latter could be changed if I believed it, but the former....no.

Am I supposed to go on in a bad situation? Why?

This is my present response to a bad situation , but think again is it not possible to change what I call mine ( 'my response').
Agreed that I have no control over situations or people , but 'my response' cant I change this?
Agreed that people around me are bad , actually weak . It is weakness which gets exhibited as badness. These people are actually sad and miserable within and do not know a way out.
Cant I make myself strong and good , and have sympathy towards those who are weak around me.
Let me not get influenced by their weakness , but with my inner strength and power over come and myself be a positive influence over them.
Is such an attitude possible.

 

[Jumi]

Going to study in a different city would probably get you out of that mess.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Suicidal feelings are a human trait. The moment we feel like we are not good enough we begin to rot inside, but we still care about other people and ourselves. It is a bit like happiness falls asleep and is groggy. Ironically suicide is supposed to help the human species, but it doesn't really serve a purpose now that we number in the billions. I mean, some of the most useless people in the world are happy; because they don't realize that they are useless while useful people brimming with potential go sad. I think it is worth a laugh actually, despite how terrible it is. Its so ironic.

 

[Rival]

Going to study in a different city would probably get you out of that mess.

I don't live in a city and I can't move. I live in a small village with my grandparents who I am totally reliant on. And also I don't want to study. I'm 21 I want to work.

 

[Revoltingest]

Suicidal feelings are a human trait. The moment we feel like we are not good enough we begin to rot inside, but we still care about other people and ourselves. It is a bit like happiness falls asleep and is groggy. Ironically suicide is supposed to help the human species, but it doesn't really serve a purpose now that we number in the billions. I mean, some of the most useless people in the world are happy; because they don't realize that they are useless while useful people brimming with potential go sad. I think it is worth a laugh actually, despite how terrible it is. Its so ironic.

There's nothing inherently wrong with being useless.
It never bothered me.