He Gets Us - I think this one was on the Super Bowl

[metis]

Advertising for Jesus to me reduces him to a commodity like beer or some politician.

I don't know that it's "advertising for Jesus" versus trying to get at what Jesus said correctly so that many Christians understand their misdirection as we saw so many of them supporting and voting for the likes of Trump and some others even though he and they constantly spewed words of hate and demonized any who stood in their way. His rallies were nearly 100% hate filled, which is the polar opposite of what Jesus taught.

And listen to what the likes of Carlson, Hannity, and Ingram and some others are like also spewing such hate-filled rhetoric.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Maybe technically - but as I represent I am advertising

Are you?
ad·ver·tise
verb

1. describe or draw attention to (a product, service, or event) in a public medium in order to promote sales or attendance.

rep·re·sent
/ˌreprəˈzent/
verb

1. 1.
   be entitled or appointed to act or speak for (someone), especially in an official capacity.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I wonder how much money they spent for ads that only helped reinforce existing believers. Couldn't this money have been better spent feeding hungry children, and getting sick, poor people healthcare they need?

They can do both. If you go to the website you see a store for tee shirts hats etc. The currency is kindness. You use the gear and do an act of kindness. I can also ask why you spent some money on a coffee or movie when you could have spent it on the poor. The thing is you can do both.

 

[F1fan]

I loved it! I just more people who call themselves "Christian" would take the hint.

I think that’s kind of the weak points of the ad. People who act violently and angrily as seen in the video might see the end message of “Jesus gets us “as an endorsement of that negative and bad behavior I would think it would’ve been more effective if they had shown scenes of people doing moral behaviors, charitable behaviors, and doing kind acts, and and those people being who Jesus gets

I heard a story on NPR today. That stated this ad campaign is spending $100 million. The source of the money is unknown but some people suspect it is the hobby lobby, people and other evangelical Christians.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's kind of weird. Most people know what Christianity is anyways.

Why would someone spend millions of dollars to advertise what most people already know?

 

[F1fan]

I'm going to take the other side and say helping people's spiritual perspective is more than worth that money.

How do these ads help anyone’s spiritual perspective? As noted in several criticisms, these ads are quite superficial and using cultural tropes that are very close to being propaganda more than any sort of information. And as I just said in my previous post, I’m not sure the average Christians gonna understand “what Jesus gets” in them. There’s a sort of “yay team” response to these ads, and this suggests a support to whatever they already believe, whether good or bad.

 

[George-ananda]

How do these ads help anyone’s spiritual perspective? As noted in several criticisms, these ads are quite superficial and using cultural tropes that are very close to being propaganda more than any sort of information. And as I just said in my previous post, I’m not sure the average Christians gonna understand “what Jesus gets” in them. There’s a sort of “yay team” response to these ads, and this suggests a support to whatever they already believe, whether good or bad.

To see Jesus or anyone that has been through it themselves and remained loving is a positive influence on many people. A good thing for them to think about. Maybe I can stay loving in hard times too and I have an example figure.

It'll help some people.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is impossible for me to do such a thing. But you did insist another poster was being insincere (that is a part of being glib). Just like you tried to tell me what my views really are regarding Super Bowl merchandise, to the point you called bull**** after I explained my position.

Touched a nerve, eh.
You really believe that Jesus commercial
turns him into a product like beer?
You really believe that he meant that?

 

[Revoltingest]

I need an ad campaign to let me know what glib means.

It's short for "gay liberal".
Or possibly "gorgeous libertarian".

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Touched a nerve, eh.
You really believe that Jesus commercial
turns him into a product like beer?
You really believe that he meant that?

Yes, I believe he meant that it commodifies Jesus. I don't believe it was insincere, nor do I believe it's a shallow position as they are trying to hawk a religious figure the way they try to hawk beer.
Or, as a cartoon version of Dr. MLK said, "I should really have approvals over these things."

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, I believe he meant that it commodifies Jesus. I don't believe it was insincere, nor do I believe it's a shallow position as they are trying to hawk a religious figure the way they try to hawk beer.

Your cynicism lobe is over-clocking.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I don't know that it's "advertising for Jesus" versus trying to get at what Jesus said correctly so that many Christians understand their misdirection as we saw so many of them supporting and voting for the likes of Trump and some others even though he and they constantly spewed words of hate and demonized any who stood in their way. His rallies were nearly 100% hate filled, which is the polar opposite of what Jesus taught.

And listen to what the likes of Carlson, Hannity, and Ingram and some others are like also spewing such hate-filled rhetoric.

I think it's the latter. The Superbowl is watched by millions of Christians, and I think they need to see that the way many of them are going about their version of Christianity is not Christ-like.

 

[F1fan]

To see Jesus or anyone that has been through it themselves and remained loving is a positive influence on many people. A good thing for them to think about. Maybe I can stay loving in hard times too and I have an example figure.

It'll help some people.

So you think it's good for this organization to spend $100 million in TV ads to help make Christians feel Christian?

I have a more Christian idea. How about take that $100 million and set up food kitchens and housing for homeless people, and invite all these Christians in crisis to come volunteer so they can have a genuine Christian experience? Maybe one reason Christians feel shallow and lack faith is becasuse they are fake.

 

[sun rise]

I didn’t see it as propaganda but rather sharing the message - yes the power is in the message and we do propagate it

it is a business in the sense that it is God’s business and his business is about people

If someone walks the talk then it's not propaganda. Given the public track record of too many, I have no confidence that those who paid for this are walking the talk.

 

[Stevicus]

I wonder how much money they spent for ads that only helped reinforce existing believers. Couldn't this money have been better spent feeding hungry children, and getting sick, poor people healthcare they need?

If Christianity needs to vromote itself perhaps demand more rational thinking from it's followers, and explaining what their morals ought to be.

To say "Jesus gets us" is more feeding the insecurities of ego, and feeding ego itself. I don't see this helping the believer be more like Jesus.

I agree, it doesn't really seem to do much at all. I'm not against the general message overall. It reminds me of some of those "Love" commercials they used to have in the 70s and 80s. Even if I don't believe in any god or religion, I can't find any fault with the basic message behind the Golden Rule and Love Thy Neighbor. If that's all it is, then okay, but what good does it really do?

Some of the dissension and anger among the masses seems related to a certain trend which I've heard identified as "Christian Nationalism," although I don't associate that with the majority of Christians. The commercial illustrated some deep-seated problems in this country, but I have to wonder just what are the various Christian denominations and their leaders actually doing, other than just passively sitting by and saying "Jesus gets us"? Is that it? This is their inspiring message to bring the wayward flock back into the fold?

 

[sun rise]

I think it's the latter. The Superbowl is watched by millions of Christians, and I think they need to see that the way many of them are going about their version of Christianity is not Christ-like.

When I was young, there was the idea of how long someone's change lasted after going to a revival. The typical answer was not long at all.

 

[George-ananda]

I agree, it doesn't really seem to do much at all. I'm not against the general message overall. It reminds me of some of those "Love" commercials they used to have in the 70s and 80s. Even if I don't believe in any god or religion, I can't find any fault with the basic message behind the Golden Rule and Love Thy Neighbor. If that's all it is, then okay, but what good does it really do?

Some of the dissension and anger among the masses seems related to a certain trend which I've heard identified as "Christian Nationalism," although I don't associate that with the majority of Christians. The commercial illustrated some deep-seated problems in this country, but I have to wonder just what are the various Christian denominations and their leaders actually doing, other than just passively sitting by and saying "Jesus gets us"? Is that it? This is their inspiring message to bring the wayward flock back into the fold?

I think the campaign is a positive one and must be the opinion of those donating.

One can always say we shouldn’t spend money on anything because there’s poor people. The world still goes on.

Spiritual matters are important too.

 

[Stevicus]

I think the campaign is a positive one and must be the opinion of those donating.

One can always say we shouldn’t spend money on anything because there’s poor people. The world still goes on.

Spiritual matters are important too.

Well, even setting aside the money (which I didn't mention anyway), it's still a fair question as to whether it does any good.

 

[George-ananda]

Well, even setting aside the money (which I didn't mention anyway), it's still a fair question as to whether it does any good.

I’m thinking it has a positive effect. More about love than dogma is a positive in my opinion.

 

[Augustus]

Advertising for Jesus to me reduces him to a commodity like beer or some politician.

Does it substantively differ from traditional proselytising though?

Christianity has always been an evangelising religion, and has always used technology to (writing, printing, etc.) to help further this aim.