Heaven doesn't Care

[Iti oj]

Now you're talking!
The list you made is more than animal.

(if you do such things and call yourself an ape....you're lying to yourself.)

We are the moral ape. There's a whole genetic factor to altruism. And. No one claiming physical only means the straw man you present.

Have you learned nothing from us atheist over the years?

 

[jonathan180iq]

Now you're talking!
The list you made is more than animal.

(if you do such things and call yourself an ape....you're lying to yourself.)

Ignorance.

The origins of charity can be seen in even the simplest study of ape behavior. Empathy is the root.

Read about mirror neurons.

 

[Thief]

So...some participants would be happy among apes....for eternity.

I suppose that would place you at the top of the hierarchy.
Providing they understand your instruction (not) and can tolerate your smell.

 

[Thief]

And even assuming that heaven does exist, I'm still pretty sure it wouldn't "care" about anything at all, considering locations themselves are not capable of emotions anyway.

Let's see.... a deist that doesn't believe in life after death?

No heaven?

 

[Iti oj]

So...some participants would be happy among apes....for eternity.

I suppose that would place you at the top of the hierarchy.
Providing they understand your instruction (not) and can tolerate your smell.

What?

 

[jonathan180iq]

What?

It's the ol' "You're a monkey" insult that dated theologians think is an insult...

 

[Iti oj]

It's the ol' "You're a monkey" insult that dated theologians think is an insult...

Ahhh. Lame.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Let's see.... a deist that doesn't believe in life after death?

No heaven?

You are making assumptions about me that I did not say. I do not know whether or not there is life after death. There's a difference between honestly admitting that you do not know, and saying with absolute certainty that there is/isn't one. I am assuming that you have not died before, so can you really say with absolute 100% certainty what lies on the "other side," or even if there is an "other side?"

 

[lewisnotmiller]

and dissecting my postwork is obviously adding to your confusion.
You think you're getting somewhere.

No...no, I don't think I'm getting anywhere to be honest. At least, not with you.

So you lean to discussion (as in the other thread) that your earthly form matters?
and almost in the same breath (and here in your post) that you hope not!

Matters to who? It matters to me. It would seem ridiculous for your supposed 'greater being' to care about human laws of taxonomy.
Why you feel the need to misrepresent my opinion I'm unsure.

What you have said....what you have done probably will.
It's not a matter of punishment.
It's cause and effect.

I'm not actually sure which particular part of my post that relates to. Suffice to say, I trust any God interested in humanity has some understanding of humanity.

do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
A code of behavior....and fair warning.

By posting in this way, and not even relating your responses to sections of my post, nor providing full explanation or context, you render yourself even harder to understand than normal.
I have no issue with being judged by my actions, or my thoughts, by a superior being.

It WILL be done unto you as you have done unto others.

Cool...no problem. Thats far better than I expect.

So if you insist on your form...and not your spirit.....
bananas for you.

So I'm to be reincarnated as an ape? Which sort? Chimp? Gorilla? Human??

I'm teasing, of course. I understand your meaning, in this point at least. It's the repetitive part of your personal doctrine.
Why do you never simply and directly answer any questions I pose? Would you agree to simply and directly answer some questions?

 

[Thief]

You are making assumptions about me that I did not say. I do not know whether or not there is life after death. There's a difference between honestly admitting that you do not know, and saying with absolute certainty that there is/isn't one. I am assuming that you have not died before, so can you really say with absolute 100% certainty what lies on the "other side," or even if there is an "other side?"

Straight forward...do you believe in a god?.....

If there is a god for you....his life would not be of this life.
Going to him?....or not?

 

[Thief]

No...no, I don't think I'm getting anywhere to be honest. At least, not with you.


Matters to who? It matters to me. It would seem ridiculous for your supposed 'greater being' to care about human laws of taxonomy.
Why you feel the need to misrepresent my opinion I'm unsure.



I'm not actually sure which particular part of my post that relates to. Suffice to say, I trust any God interested in humanity has some understanding of humanity.



By posting in this way, and not even relating your responses to sections of my post, nor providing full explanation or context, you render yourself even harder to understand than normal.
I have no issue with being judged by my actions, or my thoughts, by a superior being.


Cool...no problem. Thats far better than I expect.


So I'm to be reincarnated as an ape? Which sort? Chimp? Gorilla? Human??

I'm teasing, of course. I understand your meaning, in this point at least. It's the repetitive part of your personal doctrine.
Why do you never simply and directly answer any questions I pose? Would you agree to simply and directly answer some questions?

I saw it written somewhere....do not conform to this world....be transformed by it.

You did not choose the form you now have.
Good luck with the next.

 

[Iti oj]

I saw it written somewhere....do not conform to this world....be transformed by it.

You did not choose the form you now have.
Good luck with the next.

its written some where, this is the only world and life. :yes:

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I saw it written somewhere....do not conform to this world....be transformed by it.

You did not choose the form you now have.
Good luck with the next.

So I should take that as a 'No', you're not willing to answer any questions simply and directly?

 

[Thief]

So I should take that as a 'No', you're not willing to answer any questions simply and directly?

I take this as a 'no'...you don't like the direction in line of thought.

 

[Iti oj]

I take this as a 'no'...you don't like the direction in line of thought.

because the directions is gibberish! have a real discussion.

 

[Thief]

because the directions is gibberish! have a real discussion.

Have a belief.

 

[Iti oj]

Have a belief.

99% of those who belief are able to talk im complete sentence and answer questions directly. I very well might have beliefs, i suppose your to buy shouting at me to have ever learned. You show no respect to your fellow former posters.

 

[Thief]

99% of those who belief are able to talk im complete sentence and answer questions directly. I very well might have beliefs, i suppose your to buy shouting at me to have ever learned. You show no respect to your fellow former posters.

Belief based on respect?
Respecting you is one thing.
Serving your question is something else.

If you disagree with my viewpoint.....it's no blood from my nose.

So....a point of 'no' on your point?

 

[Iti oj]

Belief based on respect?
Respecting you is one thing.
Serving your question is something else.

If you disagree with my viewpoint.....it's no blood from my nose.

So....a point of 'no' on your point?

your posts practically reach the point of preaching. You obviously do care. You shout things at us ad nausum, you obviously do care. Your style prevents me from fully understanding you and prevents from understanding why you belive, and why i should too. I'd go so far as to say, your posts are a cause of my continued atheism and antitheism. The justify and show the need for the antitheist movement. Many many users here made m feel guilty for being an antitheist, but you and your post...make me proud.

 

[Iti oj]

And can you recall a single thing about me or what i believe or anything about me?