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Heaven doesn't Care

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I take this as a 'no'...you don't like the direction in line of thought.

Tell ya what, I'll answer you directly.

I think the direction of your running commentary is simplistic and ill-formed. You constantly avoid responding directly to anything which suggests you're aware if your own inability to.

I don't especially care if you disagree with me...plenty of people here do, yet count me as a friend and vice versa. But I think you're disingenuous and preachy, so that does grind my gears a little. It seems contrary to what this sites about.

:shrug:

Now...are you willing to answer a couple of questions simply and directly or would you prefer to offer more hoops to be jumped through?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Tell ya what, I'll answer you directly.

I think the direction of your running commentary is simplistic and ill-formed. You constantly avoid responding directly to anything which suggests you're aware if your own inability to.

I don't especially care if you disagree with me...plenty of people here do, yet count me as a friend and vice versa. But I think you're disingenuous and preachy, so that does grind my gears a little. It seems contrary to what this sites about.

:shrug:

Now...are you willing to answer a couple of questions simply and directly or would you prefer to offer more hoops to be jumped through?

I'll assume for the next post your question will be honest.
Go ahead.....ask.

But if the answer requires a rewrite......don't be surprised.
Soooooooo many people don't know how to ask.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yes


Not sure what you mean by his life "not being of this life."



Don't know. Don't claim to know. I've never died before.

So you are willing to say yeah....a Deity.
But not so sure your life and His will meet.

kinda disjointed....

God is Spirit.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
your posts practically r? the point of preaching. You obviously do care. You shout things at us ad nausum, you obviously do care. Your style prevents me from fully understanding you and prevents from understanding why you belive, and why i should too. I'd go so far as to say, your posts are a cause of my continued atheism and antitheism. The justify and show the need for the antitheist movement. Many many users here made m feel guilty for being an antitheist, but you and your post...make me proud.

And can you recall a single thing about me or what i believe or anything about me?

Hmmm?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
To me personally heaven is nothing more than a state of mind, it doesn't exists anywhere else, the fear of death is what makes one hope for an after life, and a heaven.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
To me personally heaven is nothing more than a state of mind, it doesn't exists anywhere else, the fear of death is what makes one hope for an after life, and a heaven.

But is that state of mind, one of complete solitude?
No expectation of sharing your thoughts and feelings?...your dreams?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I'll assume for the next post your question will be honest.
Go ahead.....ask.

But if the answer requires a rewrite......don't be surprised.
Soooooooo many people don't know how to ask.

Has anyone ever claimed that they would stand before heaven and offer up an excuse that they were only an ape? If so, can you please link to it. If not, can you please explain the rationale in consistently attacking a strawman?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Has anyone ever claimed that they would stand before heaven and offer up an excuse that they were only an ape? If so, can you please link to it. If not, can you please explain the rationale in consistently attacking a strawman?

So you offer a question of a possible scenario.....
after I offer that scenario as a possible.....

And what do you THINK would happen IF someone stood before heaven and said....

OOOOOpppss!....I'm sooooooooo sorry.
Please excuse me....I'm just a dumb ape!

or do you really need to see the collar, chain, and cage?
Oh hell!...that's right!
You just don't think so.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
So you offer a question of a possible scenario.....
after I offer that scenario as a possible.....

And what do you THINK would happen IF someone stood before heaven and said....

OOOOOpppss!....I'm sooooooooo sorry.
Please excuse me....I'm just a dumb ape!

or do you really need to see the collar, chain, and cage?
Oh hell!...that's right!
You just don't think so.

Strawman nonsense.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Got a better scenario?
oh! that's right....another nay sayer.

And heaven doesn't care.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Got a better scenario?
oh! that's rig to judged ouranother nay sayer.

And heaven doesn't care.

A better scenario would be good doesn't judge. If I were to be judged I would deny God's authority over, and depending what was true any God, accuse him of crimes against humanity.


Now, no one has ever said being an ape was.any kind of excuse for any thing, you just keep claiming such. This scenario you present has nothing to do with anyones claim of material only. You have been told this a dozen times, you refuse to listen, learn or answer questions. You promised to answer Lewis's question directly you have not. You're trolling and preaching. You also ignored my post where I called you out.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
A better scenario would be good doesn't judge. If I were to be judged I would deny God's authority over, and depending what was true any God, accuse him of crimes against humanity.


Now, no one has ever said being an ape was.any kind of excuse for any thing, you just keep claiming such. This scenario you present has nothing to do with anyones claim of material only. You have been told this a dozen times, you refuse to listen, learn or answer questions. You promised to answer Lewis's question directly you have not. You're trolling and preaching. You also ignored my post where I called you out.

But really....if you insist that you are an ape....now....
how then to say otherwise before heaven?

and would heaven care the excuse?....I think not.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
But really....if you insist that you are an ape....now....
how then to say otherwise before heaven?

and would heaven care the excuse?....I think not.

So you really do refuse to listen our learn. I would not say ape or not ape to.heaven. that had nothing to do with me saying it now. Stop attacking a nonsensical strawman.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
So you really do refuse to listen our learn. I would not say ape or not ape to.heaven. that had nothing to do with me saying it now. Stop attacking a nonsensical strawman.

So maybe you have something to say that heaven might care about!
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
So maybe you have something to say that heaven might care about!
se.Like I said , I wouldn't.argue.a.defense. I would reject.heavens authority over mankind and accuse heaven of crimes against humanity. This would show my love, compassion.and.forgiveness towards.humanity. what is this ape more capable of those things then heaven? I wouldn't.even mention the lack of evidence.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Now when I talk to you of being an ape, I talk about the lack off evidence, not some defense.
 
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