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monti

Member
Hi everyone at REF.
browsing this site is a fantastic experience and I hope to be involved more in the interesting discussions as asp.
I was raised in a catholic family but I am not a practicing catholic.Indeed I found some of the teaching methods of the schools I attended as a child quite abhorrent and at times sadistic.
Thank you for letting me join and look forward to debating and discussing certain aspects of religion I do find fascinating.
 
Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
Hello, hope you enjoy.

Will give a welcoming frubal to give some positive momentum :D
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Greetings!

I'm curious about your education.
Did the penguins hit your knuckles with rulers?
(That happened to many I know.)
 
M

monti

Member
Revoltingest said:
Greetings!

I'm curious about your education.
Did the penguins hit your knuckles with rulers?
(That happened to many I know.)
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yes one more than one occasion. I was finally expelled for asking awkward questions, like ' how many heads did John the baptist have?'
thank you for the warm welcome everyone.:)
 
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JayJayDee

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
monti said:
yes one more than one occasion. I was finally expelled for asking awkward questions, like ' how many heads did John the baptist have?'
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LOL...I like you already. :D

What other questions did you ask? I hope you ask lots here. :)
 
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monti

Member
JayJayDee said:
LOL...I like you already. :D

What other questions did you ask? :)
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Well yes Jay Jay, I asked many. The class one day was asked to write a short message to Jesus.
So it went something like this,
Dear Jesus,
Will you be keeping your promise to send all those who have added, taken away and doctored your message over the last 2,000 years, to the everlasting flames and visit on them all the plagues you say you will, from the early church fathers, the maniacs of medieval time’s right up until this present day?
Here is a reminder Lord of what you promised to do to them:

If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of
the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18-19. KJV.

I look forward and eagerly await to your reply.
Monti.
 
4consideration

4consideration

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Premium Member
Hi, Monti.

Welcome to RF.

I find it interesting that you would use the KJV of the Bible while in a Catholic school, or consider the words from a vision in Revelation to actually be the words of Jesus. As far as I know that's rather unusual, isn't it? What was the response from the nun or teacher?

Your introduction thread is not the place to get into in-depth discussion or debate, but I'd be interested in hearing more of your experience if you decided to create a thread for discussion or debate on the subject.
 
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monti

Member
Well the way I see it is that, everything in any bible is supposed to be the word of god. The Revelation to John as far as my understanding goes is that he was told to write down these revelations by Jesus SON OF GOD and God in three persons as we are taught in our schools.
And besides this, it shouldn't (to my mind) divert from the fact that no matter what bible one decides to read those verses are the same, examples:

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Revelation 22:18-19 (English Standard Version).

I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book:and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18-19 (American Standard Version).

And I solemnly declare to everyone who reads this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God shall add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone subtracts any part of these prophecies, God shall take away his share in the Tree of Life, and in the Holy City just described. Revelation 22:18-19 (Living Bible).

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. Revelation 22:18-19 (New International Version).

The bible then it seems is warning against doctoring (tampering with, adding to, and taking away) what is written in the revelation from god via Jesus via a messenger.
I am sure you get my point 4Consideration.
 
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