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Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
In case the idea of dating the woman I love fails and I need to move on I really need help with that. Even though I am less shy than what I was I still am intimidated by an attractive, mainly if her personality is wonderful, woman. The type of woman I prefer are Hispanics. Asians, Native Americans, Arabs, and Anunnaki are all wonderful too though. Well how do I approach one? What do I say?

Is it as simple as:
 

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Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Best advise I can give you Kori (which isn't to say it's good advise, just the best I got) when you're with her, be the audience, not the show.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
Best advise I can give you Kori (which isn't to say it's good advise, just the best I got) when you're with her, be the audience, not the show.

I know listening is a good idea. Also being funny, caring and the normal this and that. However I do want to stand out to. Show I am not like most guys in a lot of regards. I know someone here will say:"If you want that just be yourself...because you are REALLY bizarre." Yeah I know but the thing with Rachel just fell into place. I didn't really have to do anything that was hard. But meeting a woman at a mall or whatever is much more less understanding to me if I fail. Not to mention more public. I do not care what people think but at the same time I do not like to be reminded of my failures. The more public the worse.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I know listening is a good idea.

More than just listening, really.

Also being funny, caring and the normal this and that.

You shouldn't really try to be any of those things, especially caring (unless you actually do). Just get out of your own way and let it happen.

However I do want to stand out to. Show I am not like most guys in a lot of regards.

Most guys want to stand out. :D

I know someone here will say:"If you want that just be yourself...because you are REALLY bizarre." Yeah I know but the thing with Rachel just fell into place. I didn't really have to do anything that was hard. But meeting a woman at a mall or whatever is much more less understanding to me if I fail. Not to mention more public. I do not care what people think but at the same time I do not like to be reminded of my failures. The more public the worse.

Yeah, I always hated that too.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
In case the idea of dating the woman I love fails and I need to move on I really need help with that. Even though I am less shy than what I was I still am intimidated by an attractive, mainly if her personality is wonderful, woman. The type of woman I prefer are Hispanics. Asians, Native Americans, Arabs, and Anunnaki are all wonderful too though. Well how do I approach one? What do I say?

Is it as simple as:

I'm not exactly attracted to people in general, but I have looked into date methods and whatnot so that I can keep up with my girlfriend.
I've also never asked anyone out but have had the opposite happen quite a few times, so i wont be any help in the approach.
If you can get a sense for the type of person she is then appealing to that would probably be a good method for asking her out.

Being able to listen is step one, being ready to relate is step two, step three is being able to let yourself out.
Listening is important but it's not exactly an icebreaker, so you have to prep yourself to take in what you hear first.
Once you've got that down you start conversation over a topic close at hand, then relate to what she says and keep her talking.
If she's the one who starts the conversation it's all the better, you're both interested in each other so you'll both want to know more about one another.
Being yourself is best, if who you are doesn't suit her, or who she is doesn't suit you, then that date should be the last.

When i say 'being yourself' I do assume you know I mean being yourself in moderation.
If you're a total mythology or tech geek, don't let it all flow out at once...

This is just how I act on dates, if it doesn't seem like how you would be then I guess I was useless :D
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
The type of woman I prefer are Hispanics. Asians, Native Americans, Arabs, and Anunnaki are all wonderful too though. Well how do I approach one? What do I say?
Anunnaki ????

The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunaki, Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of deities in ancient Mesopotamian cultures (i.e., Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian, and Babylonian).
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
1) Play the numbers game. That is, meet as many women as you can. Expect to be rejected frequently. But rejection doesn't count. Acceptance does, and if you stick with it, you'll find some women accept you.

2) Don't use pick up lines. Try to strike up a conversation instead. Ask neutral questions at first to get a conversation going, even if the questions are bland, "That's an interesting drink you've got. What's it made of? It looks like it's got gin or maybe scotch in it." is dull as hell, but a better conversational starter than almost any pick up line.

3) Be yourself. Your lighthearted and humorous self. If you put on a front or mask, you'll never find anyone who likes you for yourself. How could they when you refuse to show them yourself?

4) Make her the center of your attention. Encourage her to speak, express herself. Respond to her positively. Be curious about her as a person. If you can't do that, move on to someone you're interested in enough to make the center of your attention.

5) If and when you get rejection, don't force it. Move on to the next woman. Again, play the numbers game rather than spend all your time pursuing one hard to get person (You'll probably just annoy them if you do).

6) At some point, she'll either show some real interest in you, or she'll indicate that she's not interested. If the former, she'll more than likely start encouraging you, and perhaps she'll even do things to make it easier for you. If the latter, move on to the next woman.

Those are six points to get you started, Kori. I'm sure there's better advice than this out there. But basics like the above have worked for me time and again. Good luck!

P/S: if none of the above works, try dressing up like a goat and dancing for your intended. I hear from @The Neo Nerd that it works.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
Are there ANY women here who will help me? Sunstone was great but a woman's POV would be nice.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Are there ANY women here who will help me? ... a woman's POV would be nice.

Great idea! I hope some women will post -- not just for your sake, Kori, but for all of our sakes.

Here's a thought. Since you describe yourself as a sub, or at least, as quite submissive, and since you're looking for a dominant woman, maybe some people (male or female) who are submissive will chime in on how they attract people to them. As I understand it, there's a whole art to that.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
1) Play the numbers game. That is, meet as many women as you can. Expect to be rejected frequently. But rejection doesn't count. Acceptance does, and if you stick with it, you'll find some women accept you.

2) Don't use pick up lines. Try to strike up a conversation instead. Ask neutral questions at first to get a conversation going, even if the questions are bland, "That's an interesting drink you've got. What's it made of? It looks like it's got gin or maybe scotch in it." is dull as hell, but a better conversational starter than almost any pick up line.

3) Be yourself. Your lighthearted and humorous self. If you put on a front or mask, you'll never find anyone who likes you for yourself. How could they when you refuse to show them yourself?

4) Make her the center of your attention. If you can't do that, move on to someone you're interested in enough to make the center of your attention.

5) If and when you get rejection, don't force it. Move on to the next woman. Again, play the numbers game rather than spend all your time pursuing one hard to get person (You'll probably just annoy them if you do).

6) At some point, she'll either show some real interest in you, or she'll indicate that she's not interested. If the former, she'll more than likely start encouraging you, and perhaps she'll even do things to make it easier for you. If the latter, move on to the next woman.

Those are six points to get you started, Kori. I'm sure there's better advice than this out there. But basics like the above have worked for me time and again. Good luck!

P/S: if none of the above works, try dressing up like a goat and dancing for your intended. I hear from @The Neo Nerd that it works.

I forgot to tell you something you might find important. If you are shy and having problems meeting people (item #1 on the list) go to item #2 and practice asking conversational questions. Doing that might help you overcome your shyness.

Last, here's a tip on how to practice conversational questions. Go to some public place and people-watch. Mentally pretend to ask questions of the people you see based on your first impressions of them. Just brain storm honest questions. For instance, suppose you go to a coffee shop and watch the people coming in. A woman comes in and the first thing you notice about her are her boots. Try thinking up genuine questions you might ask about her boots that are inoffensive and possible conversation starters. "Nice boots! I like how they go with your whole outfit! Were they hard to find?" Once you've practice asking questions that way, you'll be much less likely to become tongue tied when you do meet someone you want an actual conversation with.

At any rate, sorry for droning on and on.
 

Thana

Lady
In case the idea of dating the woman I love fails and I need to move on I really need help with that. Even though I am less shy than what I was I still am intimidated by an attractive, mainly if her personality is wonderful, woman. The type of woman I prefer are Hispanics. Asians, Native Americans, Arabs, and Anunnaki are all wonderful too though. Well how do I approach one? What do I say?

Are there ANY women here who will help me? Sunstone was great but a woman's POV would be nice.

The type of woman you prefer.... You go straight to appearance. Not a word about what type of person you want, which doesn't come off well.
I don't know what you're looking for, but my advice would be to just treat women like people instead of potential girlfriends/conquests. When you don't have an agenda, things just work out. You won't feel pressured or intimidated, and neither will she. You can just have a nice conversation, and if it leads to something than it leads to something and if it doesn't it doesn't.

You don't need any special moves or words, those only muddy the waters. Just be yourself, and by that I mean just be enough of yourself that she gets the right impression about who you are, so she can know whether or not you're her type and you can know whether or not she's interested and worth pursuing. Honestly, I don't know why people are so intent on complicating these things. Even if you're attracted to her that doesn't change the fact that she's still simply a human being.

And I think the reason why women haven't responded is because you put this thread in Men's Issues.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
In case the idea of dating the woman I love fails and I need to move on I really need help with that. Even though I am less shy than what I was I still am intimidated by an attractive, mainly if her personality is wonderful, woman. The type of woman I prefer are Hispanics. Asians, Native Americans, Arabs, and Anunnaki are all wonderful too though. Well how do I approach one? What do I say?

Is it as simple as:
Anunnaki , well you might be in for a bit of a wait here .
Nothing ventured nothing gained .
If you do not approach her someone else will .
Do not fear rejection not everyone is everyone's cup of tea.
Just be polite , and let her replies determine your next move per se , if is chemistry will soon be checkmate in your favor .
You know once I went right out of my way to get to know a very pretty girl , only to discover she tasted not so good.
Looks are not everything ?
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
The type of woman you prefer.... You go straight to appearance. Not a word about what type of person you want, which doesn't come off well.
I don't know what you're looking for, but my advice would be to just treat women like people instead of potential girlfriends/conquests. When you don't have an agenda, things just work out. You won't feel pressured or intimidated, and neither will she. You can just have a nice conversation, and if it leads to something than it leads to something and if it doesn't it doesn't.

You don't need any special moves or words, those only muddy the waters. Just be yourself, and by that I mean just be enough of yourself that she gets the right impression about who you are, so she can know whether or not you're her type and you can know whether or not she's interested and worth pursuing. Honestly, I don't know why people are so intent on complicating these things. Even if you're attracted to her that doesn't change the fact that she's still simply a human being.

And I think the reason why women haven't responded is because you put this thread in Men's Issues.

I like women of a different race than me because I like people in general that are different than me. So that does have to do with her personality.

I know that just shyness is a problem I still have.

I really didn't know where to put this.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
Done at your command!

I thought moving it would help.:(

Anyway The question with Rachel is still that a question. I talked to her today. Made a joke about me needing Knee pads if she decided to come over etc. I do not know. I just am confused, even though I have gotten bolder I still lack confidence in myself. If a woman asked me out the lack of confidence may effect the relationship.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Guide for dating people:
Step 1) Be attractive.
Step 2) Don't be unattractive.

I joke, I joke!
But in all seriousness, if you're after a female POV then I obviously cannot help you. However, considering how deep down men and women aren't all that different, I'll step in and say that @Quagmire's advice of "be the audience, not the show" is a pretty good start, unless you're dating someone who themself is very shy and quiet.
 
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