Helping the hepless is the American way

[Phil25]

Electing a biracial president hardly cleanses a nation of racism. When I start seeing more non-whites at the college level and higher ranks of employment, then we might be able to have a serious discussion about how far our country has come in terms of ending racism. Until then, whites will maintain a firm majority for the foreseeable future.

Around 65% of USA, is White, so it makes sense that majority of College students be White. But majority of minorities like Asians go to college, while not many Blacks and Hispanics go to college. Why is that?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Electing a biracial president hardly cleanses a nation of racism. When I start seeing more non-whites at the college level and higher ranks of employment, then we might be able to have a serious discussion about how far our country has come in terms of ending racism. Until then, whites will maintain a firm majority for the foreseeable future.

Around 65% of USA, is White, so it makes sense that majority of College students be White. But majority of minorities like Asians go to college, while not many Blacks and Hispanics go to college. Why is that?

It's not just college, but higher employment opportunities as well. And opportunities, or rather a lack thereof, along with institutionalized discrimination, crappy public schools and the bigotry of others, are major reasons whites will continue to dominate the more prestigious positions of society reserved for the majority, regardless of actual population.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Obama is not a White exactly. He was elected 2 times.

Uncle Sam is still racist, he just as a black friend.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

What's wrong with our country being a good neighbor? Everyone wants to claim America is a "Christian society," but hardly anyone is willing to prove it. Children have zero say-so in their situations and are powerless to do anything about it. Why should we treat and define them as criminals?

I'm just surprised these "christians" haven't actually bothered to pick up their own bible, their code of conduct if you will, and reflect back on the plethora of stories about the people migrating and immigrating to other lands...the putting a child in a basket and floating him down the river for a better life......Where's their compassion now....:sad:

 

[columbus]

I'm just surprised these "christians" haven't actually bothered to pick up their own bible, their code of conduct if you will, and reflect back on the plethora of stories about the people migrating and immigrating to other lands...the putting a child in a basket and floating him down the river for a better life......Where's their compassion now....:sad:

Really dude, you need to go reread that story. Moses' family lied and tricked their way into the palace, he didn't float to a better life. Then he began his career with a murder and it got worse from there. Ask any Egyptian who was around at the time.

Tom

 

[Cardboard]

It's not just college, but higher employment opportunities as well. And opportunities, or rather a lack thereof, along with institutionalized discrimination, crappy public schools and the bigotry of others, are major reasons whites will continue to dominate the more prestigious positions of society reserved for the majority, regardless of actual population.

Yep you are 100% correct whitey is the devil for sure!!!

It is hard to come to grips with the truth about it though…..that all my successes in life and everything I have accomplished here in the united states was only given to me because I look more white than Hispanic, boy I’m glad my kids are only light brown and not really dark like their cousins.

 

[Twilight Hue]

But I fail to see how this is a bad thing. That Bush law is what the administration is following.. I know the previous administration didn't foresee the amount of people fleeing their country to the US would happen. They were responding to a different crisis back then which prompted the law we now have. We should follow the law. The Obama administration is asking for additional funding to provide more border security and more judges to help expedite the due process. Unfortunately we now have political leaders both the left and the right wanting to pass a law to abolish some or all of that 2008 law.

It isn't bad at all. I agree that attenpts to abolish aspects of that process would not be recommended. But it's also a long and costly process and of which, as I view it, wasnt intended for continual long term protracted use providing a further drain on time and resources without solving the systemic reasons for the immigration.

I really think this, hyperbole notwithstanding, is big enough an issue whereas it should be handled internationaly via the UN to help absorb the flow of people as well as discussing any possible intervention into the countries in question.

For now, we have a loose border in the south that no one party seems to care enough to close properly and a northern border that is so secure it makes things overall a paradoxical joke to behold.

Yet how much of this can the US alone by itself can take in? Something has to be done. It can't continue like this. Thats for certain.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

really dude, you need to go reread that story. Moses' family lied and tricked their way into the palace, he didn't float to a better life. Then he began his career with a murder and it got worse from there. Ask any egyptian who was around at the time.

Tom

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[columbus]

Something has to be done. It can't continue like this. Thats for certain.

Prosecution of the criminals who hire the undocumented workers. Start with the biggest ones.

Problem solved by Thanksgiving.

Tom

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Prosecution of the criminals who hire the undocumented workers. Start with the biggest ones.

Like ConAgra?

 

[columbus]

Like ConAgra?

That would be a start. Lots of the temp agencies would be up for action as well.

Tom

 

[Dirty Penguin]

It isn't bad at all. I agree that attenpts to abolish aspects of that process would not be recommended. But it's also a long and costly process and of which, as I view it, wasnt intended for continual long term protracted use providing a further drain on time and resources without solving the systemic reasons for the immigration

Well I can't comment on how long the law was supposed to be but it seems to be designed to do what it's currently doing. The systemic problems are due to our failed war on drugs policies...but much of the problem with with these county's lack of authority to handle the out of control gangs etc. But even this isn't the whole picture. So it's natural that people would flee their country in hopes seeking a better life. Current Americans did it.

I really think this, hyperbole notwithstanding, is big enough an issue whereas it should be handled internationaly via the UN to help absorb the flow of people as well as discussing any possible intervention into the countries in question.

It could get to that point....but these people are at our door step and while there's an outcry for extra resources to deal with this our congress seems like they rather being doing something else. But we've already sent some people home with more to follow. Personally I think people are overreacting and not allowing the process to work.

For now, we have a loose border in the south that no one party seems to care enough to close properly and a northern border that is so secure it makes things overall a paradoxical joke to behold.

Your concerns about the border is a legitimate concern but we've actually beefed up security and funding over the past 5 years or so to the border. I think I read that our border budget is more than most of the other federal policing agencies combined. But the people and children from Central America aren't trying to burst through the border in the typical fashion of coming here illegally. They're actually making the long and dangerous journey here and wanting to be picked up by border patrol.

Yet how much of this can the US alone by itself can take in? Something has to be done. It can't continue like this. Thats for certain.

I would tend to agree...but let's wait and see because like I said....many are already being returned to their country. The ones that aren't have to go to court to even see if they meet a criteria to stay and many of them won't qualify and will be sent home.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yep you are 100% correct whitey is the devil for sure!!!

It is hard to come to grips with the truth about it though…..that all my successes in life and everything I have accomplished here in the united states was only given to me because I look more white than Hispanic, boy I’m glad my kids are only light brown and not really dark like their cousins.

If you want to assume whites are devils that is your perogative. If you want to focus on your story and ignore the challenges faced by racial-minorities in America that too is your choice.
But in all reality, being able to pass as white does do wonders in a world where a few old grumpy white men call the shots and are scared of whiteness not being firmly in control. If your boys were darker, then indeed a number of employers would make that the focus of their hiring "decision."

 

[Cardboard]

If you want to assume whites are devils that is your perogative.

No, it’s the same blame game rhetoric I always hear, from liberal minded, whites and non-whites alike, just trimmed down.

If you want to focus on your story and ignore the challenges faced by racial-minorities in America that too is your choice.
But in all reality, being able to pass as white does do wonders in a world where a few old grumpy white men call the shots and are scared of whiteness not being firmly in control. If your boys were darker, then indeed a number of employers would make that the focus of their hiring "decision."

Me and my families “story” is really what I have to go by, I usually do not tend to automatically believe the consistent plethora of news stories fed to us on racism , I read, I watch and combine that with what I , my family and friends personally experience, and then make my judgments.

I personally do not blame racism every time something does or does not work out for me, or my family, I take personal responsibility for my situation and then take steps to improve my situation if it is not acceptable, My wife and I have taught our children to do the same….and honestly , it sounds to me like you are racist.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, it’s the same blame game rhetoric I always hear, from liberal minded, whites and non-whites alike, just trimmed down.

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Me and my families “story” is really what I have to go by, I usually do not tend to automatically believe the consistent plethora of news stories fed to us on racism , I read, I watch and combine that with what I , my family and friends personally experience, and then make my judgments.

I personally do not blame racism every time something does or does not work out for me, or my family, I take personal responsibility for my situation and then take steps to improve my situation if it is not acceptable, My wife and I have taught our children to do the same….and honestly , it sounds to me like you are racist.

My story is, anytime I am outside of low-rank working class jobs (such as meat processing plants) or low income areas of town, there are fewer racial minorities. The further I move away from the pits of society, the fewer and fewer minorities there are. Put bluntly, I will interact with more black people in just one visit to a gas station in the so-called "dark" part of town (if you think I'm racist, you should here the people warning me to stay away from that part of town) than I will during an entire week at school. Obviously, whites are not inherently smarter, or more talented or more capable than others, then how do you suppose such segregation come to be?
And of course not all white-people are racist. It's a foolish assumption that unfairly generalizes. Men have a number of advantages that women don't, such as not having to deal with sexual harassment that is going to be swept under the table, but that is far from saying "I hate all men because all men are sexist pigs."

 

[esmith]

So, what I am basically hearing from some is that these _________(insert your own description here) are fleeing from their country to ours because we have it better here. Now, let me ask a very simple question. Are those of you who think we should accept these ________ believe that we should accept any and all _______ who do not have the same life in their country that those in the US have? How about those in Africa, China, Southeast Asia, Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Korea, just to name a few.
Yes, we are a humanitarian, and giving nation, (and I challenge anyone to dispute the fact), but we can only do so much. Eventually we would reach the point that it would greatly harm our own way of life. We can only do so much, and accepting every misfortunate person in the world would eventually destroy the country as we know it. But maybe that is what some of you want.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So, what I am basically hearing from some is that these _________(insert your own description here) are fleeing from their country to ours because we have it better here. Now, let me ask a very simple question. Are those of you who think we should accept these ________ believe that we should accept any and all _______ who do not have the same life in their country that those in the US have? How about those in Africa, China, Southeast Asia, Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Korea, just to name a few.
Yes, we are a humanitarian, and giving nation, (and I challenge anyone to dispute the fact), but we can only do so much. Eventually we would reach the point that it would greatly harm our own way of life. We can only do so much, and accepting every misfortunate person in the world would eventually destroy the country as we know it. But maybe that is what some of you want.

Actually, there has been immigration from Africa to Europe because of conditions in Africa. People in the Middle East often find themselves at the mercy of a neighboring nation who opened their borders for citizens to escape war. In reality, America is hardly the only nation who has a large amount of immigrants coming in from neighbor countries, which means there is no need or concern in asking should we take in everybody from around the globe because they aren't all coming here.

 

[esmith]

Actually, there has been immigration from Africa to Europe because of conditions in Africa. People in the Middle East often find themselves at the mercy of a neighboring nation who opened their borders for citizens to escape war. In reality, America is hardly the only nation who has a large amount of immigrants coming in from neighbor countries, which means there is no need or concern in asking should we take in everybody from around the globe because they aren't all coming here.

are they entering those countries legally or illegally? That is the crux of the present problem...... They are entering the US illegally!

 

[columbus]

are they entering those countries legally or illegally? That is the crux of the present problem...... They are entering the US illegally!

That's because the USA will give them jobs, but not documents. If they could get the documents, or we stopped giving them jobs the problems would vanish. But we won't.

Tom

 

[Thruve]

If you want to assume whites are devils that is your perogative. If you want to focus on your story and ignore the challenges faced by racial-minorities in America that too is your choice.
But in all reality, being able to pass as white does do wonders in a world where a few old grumpy white men call the shots and are scared of whiteness not being firmly in control. If your boys were darker, then indeed a number of employers would make that the focus of their hiring "decision."

I think I vomited. You just shat on minorities who arose from that mentality and went to school/work in a system that does provide the opportunity. Minorities who think otherwise typically don't become something more, so it looks as if theres a trap they must otherwise escape, a trap you just laid straight on the ground for a 'minority' to step on.

I dont support 'minorities' who claim to be victims, I support 'minorities', anyone really, whos willing to develop the strength to realize their not victims, set yourself free, and do something. See the stupid trap now?

Where I live in south florida, I work two jobs. One is in a county->City below me where NO WHITES EXIST. Everyone is either hatian, jamaican, or from the DR. The only white folk you do ever see are snow birds from Quebec, and thats 6 months out of the year. I am FRIENDS with many people down there. Do they live in a more older part of the county? Ya, because most of them are 1st/2nd generation immigrants who have not developed much of anything yet, so naturally they don't have much education, nor the money to move to a different area. Lots of their extended family lives in the area too, and therefore don't want to go elsewhere, and why should they have to. Do they view me differently from themselves? No. They open doors for me, I open doors for them. I say hey to them, have a good day, happy thanksgiving! and they say the same back.Do we drink together? Talk about politics together? agree on what people would consider 'racist' comments together? Yea! Then theres minorities there who's parents are 2nd/3rd generation here, are more educated, and raise their kids above the 'trap' mentality as I so call it, and there in school with me, work with me, etc. Many minorities, mainly from Latin America, Hati, DR, Carribean islands, etc, atleast down here in SOUTH florida, are 1st/2nd generation, the irish, etc, who first came over here had the same dam problems, No? Now, in reference to history involving slavery, etc, thats a whole different argument, one we should remember but let go of if my friends I love deerly are to, atleast by your definition, become equal as whites. ...mmkay. The minority.. should be those who consider themselves a minority. Amen.


In reference to the OP, I think their ages signify that the parents/government have an agenda. It's like their purpose was to test us.