Her name was Amber Nicole Thurman ...

[SkepticThinker]

Exactly and the point was not to federalize it but rather give it to the states to decide which is proper.

And we can all see the giant cluster**** that has created.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I say that because in your responses, you don't indicate that you do care about the women involved.
You barely even mention then as you focus on the fetuses instead.

You know you don't have to say it verbatim in order for you to come across that way, right?

Ok. So I don't meet your test, I don't care. I don't think you care about the women involved based on your stance.

Yeah, then they just owe a ton of debt for it and have to start a GoFundMe page for a child to get out of debt for paying for lunch. Just think about that.

It could not be implemented due to time. Maybe next summer. As your article said, there are other means to get food in Texas and no one should have been without due to these other programs.

 

[Copernicus]

As of today, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney has struck down Georgia's draconian abortion law. Sadly, it is too late for Nicole Thurman and at least one other woman whose pregnancy led to her death. However, this victory may be short-lived, as the decision will be immediately appealed. The state supreme court has previously reversed McBurney, so it is likely that they will also reverse him again. However, abortions of pregnancies that are in the first 20 weeks will be temporarily decriminalized.

Judge strikes down Georgia ban on abortions, allowing them to resume beyond 6 weeks into pregnancy​

 

[SkepticThinker]

Ok. So I don't meet your test, I don't care.

You don't have to care. I'm just telling you how you've come off in this thread. And why. Instead of addressing the reasons I've given, you claim you don't care. Okey dokey then.

I don't think you care about the women involved based on your stance.

By directly speaking about them and bringing them to your attention, you feel that means I don't care about the women involved based on my stance? Do elaborate. Please.

It could not be implemented due to time. Maybe next summer. As your article said, there are other means to get food in Texas and no one should have been without due to these other programs.

So the point I was making was a pertinent one. Thanks for confirming.

 

[crossfire]

As of today, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney has struck down Georgia's draconian abortion law. Sadly, it is too late for Nicole Thurman and at least one other woman whose pregnancy led to her death. However, this victory may be short-lived, as the decision will be immediately appealed. The state supreme court has previously reversed McBurney, so it is likely that they will also reverse him again. However, abortions of pregnancies that are in the first 20 weeks will be temporarily decriminalized.

Judge strikes down Georgia ban on abortions, allowing them to resume beyond 6 weeks into pregnancy​

and now it's back to 6 weeks.

Georgia Supreme Court restores near-ban on abortions while state appeals

The Georgia Supreme Court has halted a ruling striking down the state’s near-ban on abortions while the state appeals.

apnews.com

Interesting blurb from the article:

Clare Bartlett, executive director of the Georgia Life Alliance, called high court’s decision “appropriate,” fearing that without it, women from other states would begin coming to Georgia for surgical abortions.​

Georgia does seem to have a better supply of OB/GYNs than many other states, but is surrounded by states with abortion bans. Seeing North Carolina's reproductive health system being strained by patients coming in from other states could be concerning. We are seeing this in Washington state.

 

[Copernicus]

and now it's back to 6 weeks.

Georgia Supreme Court restores near-ban on abortions while state appeals

The Georgia Supreme Court has halted a ruling striking down the state’s near-ban on abortions while the state appeals.

apnews.com

Interesting blurb from the article:

Clare Bartlett, executive director of the Georgia Life Alliance, called high court’s decision “appropriate,” fearing that without it, women from other states would begin coming to Georgia for surgical abortions.​

Georgia does seem to have a better supply of OB/GYNs than many other states, but is surrounded by states with abortion bans. Seeing North Carolina's reproductive health system being strained by patients coming in from other states could be concerning. We are seeing this in Washington state.

This is the problem with the wacky Dobbs decision. Those states that still permit abortions suddenly become flooded with women who need them. North Carolina was a haven for Georgia women, although we see how tragic that turned out for Amber Thurman. Now some in Georgia are realizing that their own state could become flooded with women patients from surrounding Republican-controlled states. These changes are relatively recent, so the burden on the health care systems is just now really being felt. We desperately need a new president and Congress that will be willing and able to restore the right of women in every state to make their own decisions about how to manage their pregnancies.

People don't think of the abortion issue as one about interstate commerce, but it clearly does have a huge impact on healthcare across state boundaries.

 

[fantome profane]

This is the problem with the wacky Dobbs decision. Those states that still permit abortions suddenly become flooded with women who need them. North Carolina was a haven for Georgia women, although we see how tragic that turned out for Amber Thurman. Now some in Georgia are realizing that their own state could become flooded with women patients from surrounding Republican-controlled states. These changes are relatively recent, so the burden on the health care systems is just now really being felt. We desperately need a new president and Congress that will be willing and able to restore the right of women in every state to make their own decisions about how to manage their pregnancies.

People don't think of the abortion issue as one about interstate commerce, but it clearly does have a huge impact on healthcare across state boundaries.

And this will not just affect access to abortion, obstetricians, med students will also be affected.

When we talk about people travelling to another state to get an abortion we are not thinking about the immediate life-threatening emergencies. What if no one in your state know what to do?

 

[crossfire]

This is the problem with the wacky Dobbs decision. Those states that still permit abortions suddenly become flooded with women who need them. North Carolina was a haven for Georgia women, although we see how tragic that turned out for Amber Thurman. Now some in Georgia are realizing that their own state could become flooded with women patients from surrounding Republican-controlled states. These changes are relatively recent, so the burden on the health care systems is just now really being felt. We desperately need a new president and Congress that will be willing and able to restore the right of women in every state to make their own decisions about how to manage their pregnancies.

People don't think of the abortion issue as one about interstate commerce, but it clearly does have a huge impact on healthcare across state boundaries.

I really don't want to see pregnancy and childbirth become third-world dangerous here again.

 

[crossfire]

This is the problem with the wacky Dobbs decision. Those states that still permit abortions suddenly become flooded with women who need them. North Carolina was a haven for Georgia women, although we see how tragic that turned out for Amber Thurman. Now some in Georgia are realizing that their own state could become flooded with women patients from surrounding Republican-controlled states. These changes are relatively recent, so the burden on the health care systems is just now really being felt. We desperately need a new president and Congress that will be willing and able to restore the right of women in every state to make their own decisions about how to manage their pregnancies.

People don't think of the abortion issue as one about interstate commerce, but it clearly does have a huge impact on healthcare across state boundaries.

Senate report on the nationwide effect of Dobbs, region by region:

https://www.cantwell.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2024_dobbs_anniversary_national_report_final.pdf

Even people from California are coming up here (to Washington state,) because California is being flooded by patients from Texas and Arizona!
Some women here in Washington are having to wait two or three months just to get an appointment to get birth control pills or an IUD because of all the people from out of state coming here for reproductive care.