Here's another good one...

[YoursTrue]

How the Early Catholic Church Christianized Halloween - HISTORY

 

[exchemist]

How the Early Catholic Church Christianized Halloween - HISTORY

There are various theories about why 1st November was chosen by Gregory III (not Gregory the Great) to be the date for the feast of All Saints. It seems to me rather unlikely that the whole of Christendom chose to follow the habits of the British Isles. The chief proponent of this theory seems to be James Frazer, the Scot who wrote the Golden Bough at the turn of the c.19th.

 

[Heyo]

There are various theories about why 1st November was chosen by Gregory III (not Gregory the Great) to be the date for the feast of All Saints. It seems to me rather unlikely that the whole of Christendom chose to follow the habits of the British Isles. The chief proponent of this theory seems to be James Frazer, the Scot who wrote the Golden Bough at the turn of the c.19th.

Also, Samhain wasn't on October 31st. At least not always. The Celts used a Moon calendar which wasn't in sync with the Roman calendar.

 

[YoursTrue]

Also, Samhain wasn't on October 31st. At least not always. The Celts used a Moon calendar which wasn't in sync with the Roman calendar.

But trick or treat? I mean is that how Jesus wants his disciples to ask for goodies from neighbors and strangers?

 

[YoursTrue]

There are various theories about why 1st November was chosen by Gregory III (not Gregory the Great) to be the date for the feast of All Saints. It seems to me rather unlikely that the whole of Christendom chose to follow the habits of the British Isles. The chief proponent of this theory seems to be James Frazer, the Scot who wrote the Golden Bough at the turn of the c.19th.

OK, but again, do you think this is in harmony with what Jesus taught, as if you play a game on Oct. 31st and ask for goodies from neighbors and others and say, "trick or treat..."

 

[The Hammer]

OK, but again, do you think this is in harmony with what Jesus taught, as if you play a game on Oct. 31st and ask for goodies from neighbors and others and say, "trick or treat..."

I don't see why this Jesus figure would care?

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't see why this Jesus figure would care?

Because (1) he is alive, (2) he is the truth. So yes, he cares, otherwise why would a Christian threaten to hurt someone if he did not give him a 'treat'? And what does Halloween and candy and going to neighbors + show any reverence for God. I'm sure the novelty companies and candy makers are very happy at this time. Do you think Jesus doesn't care about celebrations and lies told as if he approves of them, or -- that he doesn't care? I mean it does go back to the debate being held at the Vatican between 3 large entities with different viewpoints as if maybe God cares or maybe it's all ok...

 

[The Hammer]

Because (1) he is alive, (2) he is the truth. So yes, he cares, otherwise why would a Christian threaten to hurt someone if he did not give him a 'treat'? And what does Halloween and candy and going to neighbors + show any reverence for God. I'm sure the novelty companies and candy makers are very happy at this time. Do you think Jesus doesn't care about celebrations and lies told as if he approves of them, or -- that he doesn't care? I mean it does go back to the debate being held at the Vatican between 3 large entities with different viewpoints as if maybe God cares or maybe it's all ok...

I still don't see how or why God of any sort of Jesus would care.

As long as we are all being neighborly. People celebrating anything is a triviality at best that no God gives a hoot about. Isn't the most important thing Love above all else? Halloween doesn't seem to be about not loving one another.

 

[YoursTrue]

I still don't see how or why God of any sort of Jesus would care.

As long as we are all being neighborly. People celebrating anything is a triviality at best that no God gives a hoot about. Isn't the most important thing Love above all else? Halloween doesn't seem to be about not loving one another.

Trick or treat? Maybe some think it's just a cute remark, I suppose. It would be unusual for someone to dress up as Hitler, I suppose. or Mussolini.

 

[Secret Chief]

Trick or treat? Maybe some think it's just a cute remark, I suppose. It would be unusual for someone to dress up as Hitler, I suppose. or Mussolini.

Also, chocolate is usually brown coloured but there is also white chocolate.

 

[fantome profane]

Also, chocolate is usually brown coloured but there is also white chocolate.

White chocolate is not chocolate.


There, I said it.

 

[Secret Chief]

White chocolate is not chocolate.


There, I said it.

Heretic. Or French.

 

[The Hammer]

Trick or treat?

What's so bad about this phrase? Do tell?

A "trick" doesn't necessarily involve harming another for instance.

 

[The Hammer]

White chocolate is not chocolate.


There, I said it.

Nope, it's basically solidified cocoa butter.

 

[fantome profane]

Heretic. Or French.

both as a matter of fact.

 

[YoursTrue]

I still don't see how or why God of any sort of Jesus would care.

As long as we are all being neighborly. People celebrating anything is a triviality at best that no God gives a hoot about. Isn't the most important thing Love above all else? Halloween doesn't seem to be about not loving one another.

If you have a god, I don't know if your god gives a hoot.

 

[Secret Chief]

both as a matter of fact.

I knew it!

 

[Secret Chief]

Nope, it's basically solidified cocoa butter.

The texts have been mis-translated. Oops, sorry, wrong thread.

 

[The Hammer]

If you have a god, I don't know if your god gives a hoot.

Nope, my Gods quite like the celebrations (since they encourage people to gather and be merry). Especially so, since I give them offerings then (I actually give offerings much more frequently, this is just one of those days). They always seem a bit happier.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nope, my Gods quite like the celebrations (since they encourage people to gather and be merry). Especially so, since I give them offerings then (I actually give offerings much more frequently, this is just one of those days). They always seem a bit happier.

They are your gods, not mine.