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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I have a neighbor who loves these celebrations. She doesn't care much about religion or what the background is of a holiday. She'll do just about anything for fun. I asked her if she'd go to a party to celebrate Hitler's birthday, she at least said no. But as long as she finds something cute in a holiday, not her own religion, it doesn't matter to her, she's happy. I am saying this because it sounds like something you are saying.

I like to put the FUN in fundamental.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I say live and let live. What others do, is neither my nor your prerogative.

I share your sentiments about live and let live regarding Halloween, but I remember how a couple of Christians I once knew would lecture me about my family's participation in some Halloween and Day of the Dead festivities each year. I've always found it difficult enough to deal with the upsurge of spirit activity and interactions with spirits this time of year without having these Christians lecture me about how I shouldn't enjoy the ambiance of Halloween and let my children participate in a few Halloween and Day of the Dead festivities. In retrospect, I'm actually relieved that I never told them that I'm a psychic medium and a sensitive. I'm sure that I would have never heard the end of it. In my experience, some Christians can be incredibly nosy, and they refuse to mind their own business.
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I share your sentiments about live and let live regarding Halloween, but I remember how a couple of Christians I once knew would lecture me about my family's participation in some Halloween and Day of the Dead festivities each year. I've always found it difficult enough to deal with the upsurge of spirit activity and interactions with spirits this time of year without having these Christians lecture me about how I shouldn't enjoy the ambiance of Halloween and let my children participate in a few Halloween and Day of the Dead festivities. In retrospect, I'm actually relieved that I never told them that I'm a psychic medium and a sensitive. I'm sure that I would have never heard the end of it.

Yeah pestering anyone about their beliefs or practices is pretty rude when it isn't harming anyone.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Yeah pestering anyone about their beliefs or practices is pretty rude when it isn't harming anyone.

I agree. My family and I don't celebrate Halloween and the Day of the Dead like we used to since my kids are older now, but we still enjoy this time together. Five of my children and I attended an annual Day of the Dead Festival today and yesterday, and both days were crazy active with spirits. There were clearly more human spirits at this festival than there were living people. As we were driving closer to the festival, my 19-year old daughter (who is also a psychic medium) looked over at me and asked me, "What are we getting ourselves into?" I reassured her by telling her that it would be all right and it was for the most part. Six of my children have a varying degree of one or more of the four Clairs, but my 19-year-old daughter is a psychic medium like I am and her abilities nearly rival mine.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I agree. My family and I don't celebrate Halloween and the Day of the Dead like we used to since my kids are older now, but we still enjoy this time together. Five of my children and I attended an annual Day of the Dead Festival today and yesterday, and both days were crazy active with spirits. There were clearly more human spirits at this festival than there were living people. As we were driving closer to the festival, my 19-year old daughter (who is also a psychic medium) looked over at me and asked me, "What are we getting ourselves into?" I reassured her by telling her that it would be all right and it was for the most part. Six of my children have a varying degree of one or more of the four Clairs, but my 19-year-old daughter is a psychic medium like I am and her abilities nearly rival mine.

That's neat. I went to a local Samhain ritual today. It was a good time. Great to reflect on departed ancestors, and a reminder that we too will pass through the veil in time.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That's neat. I went to a local Samhain ritual today. It was a good time. Great to reflect on departed ancestors, and a reminder that we too will pass through the veil in time.

To me ' to pass through the veil in time ' would mean there is the Resurrection Hope for the sleeping dead.
Departed ancestors will live again with the prospect of everlasting life in view - Acts of the Apostles 24:15
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
What's so bad about this phrase? Do tell?
A "trick" doesn't necessarily involve harming another for instance.
It used to be throwing corn around at the house ( some people slipped and harmed themselves especially on steps )
It used to be spreading toilet paper around. Hard to get out of taller trees.
It used to be throwing eggs on houses. Sometimes hard to remove.
So, even if a person is Not physically harmed, their property was sometimes damaged.
Oh, I also remember some kids would shake soda bottles and splash a car's paint with it. ( I think it was Pepsi )
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
It used to be throwing corn around at the house ( some people slipped and harmed themselves especially on steps )
It used to be spreading toilet paper around. Hard to get out of taller trees.
It used to be throwing eggs on houses. Sometimes hard to remove.
So, even if a person is Not physically harmed, their property was sometimes damaged.
Oh, I also remember some kids would shake soda bottles and splash a car's paint with it. ( I think it was Pepsi )

Sounds like the parents should have been around.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
To me it is Not asking but rather threatening people: No treat then a trick (do some damage)
That's what it always meant to me ... if you don't give a treat, you'll find some damage done to that person. History shows something different, but it is generally lost -- it was never explained to me before I researched it.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That Halloween has been stripped of its Christian context (Allhallowtide) is unfortunate but that nonetheless does not make Halloween traditions harmful. (In and of themselves). As for communicating with the dead you are correct. But to pray for the dead, beseeching God to have mercy upon the souls of those who have departed, is in no way an act of necromancy. Christians have prayed for the dead since the beginning.


Perhaps Halloween is different in America, but in Australia Halloween usually involves people decorating their houses and groups of children (usually accompanied by adults) dressed in costumes asking for treats. Harmless fun. There are no rampages or widespread violence. At least that I've seen.


While I agree that many modern Christians downplay the realty of demonic it's important not to fall into the opposite trap of seeing the demonic behind every rock. Not everything is the work of the Devil.
The point is that demons are not to be made like a celebration of fun and games because that is what they want. But now I have a little question. While there are some pretty costumes, many get into skeletons. Also wonder why spiderwebs and spiders in decorations for halloween here are so popular. Not sure where you live...
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I say live and let live. What others do, is neither my nor your prerogative.
Once again -- it is the 2nd biggest money-making holiday here in the US. And to listen to my neighbor tell me about how cute the costumes were at a party she attended makes me wonder where people's minds are at. In fact, she said she loves celebrations, as you indicated, "live and let live," it doesnt matter to her what the celebration is, if it is or is not in her religious belief, she doesn't care as long as she has a good time. I asked her if she'd celebrate Hitler's birthday, at least she said no to that. I could go down the list but I won't.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Once again -- it is the 2nd biggest money-making holiday here in the US. And to listen to my neighbor tell me about how cute the costumes were at a party she attended makes me wonder where people's minds are at. In fact, she said she loves celebrations, as you indicated, "live and let live," it doesnt matter to her what the celebration is, if it is or is not in her religious belief, she doesn't care as long as she has a good time. I asked her if she'd celebrate Hitler's birthday, at least she said no to that. I could go down the list but I won't.

And I see nothing wrong with her perspective.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
And I see nothing wrong with her perspective.
OK, so you then might see nothing wrong with my perspective either, considering I refrain from joining any celebration about Halloween, right? And if a person is interested I will tell them why. People join all kinds of celebrations, like my neighbor does, as long as there are good snacks, and merriment. She doesn't care much about religious values, even though she claims to be a member of a particular Abrahamic faith.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
OK, so you then might see nothing wrong with my perspective either, considering I refrain from joining any celebration about Halloween, right? And if a person is interested I will tell them why. People join all kinds of celebrations, like my neighbor does, as long as there are good snacks, and merriment. She doesn't care much about religious values, even though she claims to be a member of a particular Abrahamic faith.

What works for you works for you. Enjoy
 
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