Hey Muslims!

[Toxikmynd]

They did take it for themselves.

I don't remember hearing about an army of Jewish soldiers walking in and killing everyone until the said "Okay, you can have it."?

 

[Nietzsche]

I believe that if they wanted it that bad, they should've taken it themselves, I don't believe in gifting whole countries to a religious group.

Nor do I. But its been done, and we live in the real world. I am not about to tell anyone to leave their homes.

When i was muslim lol
That gets never old.

Anyways muslims are against zionists for political reasons, and we condemn jews for religious reason(believing they tried to kill jesus and muhammad pbu+t)

Man, it's been a while since I heard the "Christ Killer" thing touted out. Want to start claiming they control the world finance industry and use the blood of Christian(or in your case Muslim) children to flavour their Matzah?

We compensate Natives here in Canada for what we did when we were colonizing the New World, yet, these new generations don't deserve compensation at all, they haven't earned it, I'm not saying we shouldn't but they still demand more compensation all the time. I am partially native and still believe that we are compensating for something the new generations don't deserve. Its the same as what you said though, why should MY generation pay, for my ancestors actions. I'm not status btw, so I get 0 compensation.

Canada was abusing its Native Populations well up into the 20th century. What they're getting is long overdue.

 

[Toxikmynd]

Nor do I. But its been done, and we live in the real world. I am not about to tell anyone to leave their homes.

Man, it's been a while since I heard the "Christ Killer" thing touted out. Want to start claiming they control the world finance industry and use the blood of Christian(or in your case Muslim) children to flavour their Matzah?


Canada was abusing its Native Populations well up into the 20th century. What they're getting is long overdue.

Not really.. They still live in poverty because most Natives sit on the reserve and don't get real jobs, most don't get education yet they can learn for free. It's sad, I'm angry more because of their lack of effort with that we give them. I would take full advantage of this charity!

 

[Toxikmynd]

Also, before you pull the racism card (anyone) I am partially native, and a majority of my friends are native as well, it's just that many don't take advantage of what they have and it makes me angry. There is more we could do to help them I agree on that. Yet if they don't act on it, might as well take it away. A cake sits in a fridge for only so long before it goes bad or gets eaten.

 

[gsa]

I don't remember hearing about an army of Jewish soldiers walking in and killing everyone until the said "Okay, you can have it."?

They didn't kill everyone, but ethnic cleansing does not require mass murder. Like most origin stories for nation states, Israel's is pretty violent.

 

[Toxikmynd]

I never talked about ethnic-cleansing but I know what you mean, lol

 

[columbus]

Nor do I. But its been done, and we live in the real world. I am not about to tell anyone to leave their homes.

This is the point. But what's done is done. While there is plenty of blame and grievances to spread around Israel is not going anywhere.

To be really blunt, Israel has been getting stronger continuously for decades while their neighboring countries have gotten ever weaker. They can't even deal with ISIS.

Israel is not going away.

Tom

 

[JRMcC]

Trolling for anti-Israel hate speech. How special ...

What does that even mean? You think I want to watch people bash Israel? I want to see how muslims critical of Israel describe their views. What's your problem?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Its easy.
I support israel as state far from middle east.
Let Germany or USA give them piece of land within their own countries.

Germany and America are not the Jew's ancestral homelands. Why should they not be allowed to have a nation in their homeland? Arabs already have Saudi Arabia and all the other lands they conquered by force centuries ago.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

"Diaspora jews" lived in West for hundreds of years. Thats where they belong.
Everyone knows that.
Iam not against jews that live in Palestine generation after generation, century after century.

Uh huh. How about this: Israel gives up the Occupation, and all of the surrounding Arab states secularize, remove social and political barriers for women, religious minorities, gay men and lesbians and dissidents, and then accept Israel as an equal partner in a post-Islamic era?

That sounds much better, and far more realistic, than forcing all of the Jews in Israel to relocate to the United States.

A better solution is for "diaspora jews" to go back to West.
Palestinian jews can come under caliphate, but they rule themselves with law of Moses. That is how peace endured for centuries.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

"Diaspora jews" lived in West for hundreds of years. Thats where they belong.
Everyone knows that.
Iam not against jews that live in Palestine generation after generation, century after century.

Do you know what "diaspora" means? It means that you're a person who is living outside of your ethnic homeland! Israel is the Jew's homeland. That's where they came from. "Palestine" is a creation of the Romans under the emperor, Hadrian, when he kicked the Jews out of their land. The Jewish people have every right to their own homeland, just as the Arabs do and the Arabs already have their homeland - Saudi Arabia.

A better solution is for "diaspora jews" to go back to West.
Palestinian jews can come under caliphate, but they rule themselves with law of Moses. That is how peace endured for centuries.

There should be no caliphate in Israel (preferably at all). It's not Islamic land. The Jews have been through enough and they deserve to have their own land.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Uh huh. How about this: Israel gives up the Occupation, and all of the surrounding Arab states secularize, remove social and political barriers for women, religious minorities, gay men and lesbians and dissidents, and then accept Israel as an equal partner in a post-Islamic era?

That sounds much better, and far more realistic, than forcing all of the Jews in Israel to relocate to the United States.

A better solution is for "diaspora jews" to go back to West.
Palestinian jews can come under islamic caliphate, but they rule themselves with law of Moses. That is how

Do you know what "diaspora" means? It means that you're a person who is living outside of your ethnic homeland! Israel is the Jew's homeland. That's where they came from. "Palestine" is a creation of the Romans under the emperor, Hadrian, when he kicked the Jews out of their land. The Jewish people have every right to their own homeland, just as the Arabs do and the Arabs already have their homeland - Saudi Arabia.



There should be no caliphate in Israel (preferably at all). It's not Islamic land. The Jews have been through enough and they deserve to have their own land.

They do deserve a land. But outside islamic world. Iam in favour of jewish atheist land in West. Masjidul Aqsa is holy place within islam, ofcourse jews and christians can and should go there. But its not possible for a atheist & godless murderous regime to rule in the holy land without conflicts.

 

[columbus]

I support Israel within Germany or USA.
Anyways iam 100% anti-zionism and anti-israel(within Middle East).

I wish that the USA had been smarter and less racist back in 1945. We could have thrown open the doors of our country to an industrious and moral people.
They could have the whole state of Mississippi as far as I'm concerned. I would vote to appropriate funds to dig up half of Temple Mount and bring it over.
Why do you think it is better for Jewish people to leave the middle east? Israel is a much better place to live for Muslims than most Muslim places are.

Would you rather be an Israeli Muslim or an ISIS Muslim?

Tom

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

They do deserve a land. But outside islamic world. Iam in favour of jewish atheist land in West. Masjidul Aqsa is holy place within islam, ofcourse jews and christians can and should go there. But its not possible for a atheist & godless murderous regime to rule in the holy land without conflicts.

Israel is not part of the Islamic world. I know Muslims have conquered and subjugated the peoples of all the lands they're the majority in, so that's even more of a reason why the self-determination of the Jews should be supported over having their homeland usurped and turned into yet another Islamic wasteland. Israel is the one relative bastion of freedom in the godforsaken Middle East, so it must be preserved for the good of humanity. You Muslims have your own dumps to keep to.

Israel was holy to the Jews before it was holy to anyone else. You have Mecca, where you don't even allow us filthy kafir to set foot, and you've dumped a mosque on the Temple Mount. You have more than enough.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I wish that the USA had been smarter and less racist back in 1945. We could have thrown open the doors of our country to an industrious and moral people.
They could have the whole state of Mississippi as far as I'm concerned. I would vote to appropriate funds to dig up half of Temple Mount and bring it over.
Why do you think it is better for Jewish people to leave the middle east? Israel is a much better place to live for Muslims than most Muslim places are.

Would you rather be an Israeli Muslim or an ISIS Muslim?

Tom

Its better for them leave because they lived in west for centuries. They were never the indigenous people of Palestine. These are the Palestinians which we see today.

Anyways other part is because they are godless in their ruling, allowing homosexuality and others that goes against the law of Moses.

Another reason is that the caliphate( which will return insha Allah) shall again rule over al aqsa as it did in the past. And this is truthful prophecy.

Israel is not part of the Islamic world. I know Muslims have conquered and subjugated the peoples of all the lands they're the majority in, so that's even more of a reason why the self-determination of the Jews should be supported over having their homeland usurped and turned into yet another Islamic wasteland. Israel is the one relative bastion of freedom in the godforsaken Middle East, so it must be preserved for the good of humanity. You Muslims have your own dumps to keep to.

Israel was holy to the Jews before it was holy to anyone else. You have Mecca, where you don't even allow us filthy kafir to set foot, and you've dumped a mosque on the Temple Mount. You have more than enough.

The problem with the zionist entity is her godless rule. The Atheist estabilishment within Holy land is not logical one.
Also the grabbing of lands from the indigenous people(palestinians) is one of the reasons why an caliphate will never allow such entity to operate within the sacred Al-Aqsa. So time is ticking.

 

[Smart_Guy]

This is primarily addressed to Muslims from the middle east. It's well known that there is a general disapproval of Israel and/or its actions throughout the middle east. Of course it varies form person to person, country to country. If you're one of those people who takes issue with Israel and/or its actions I'd like to ask you this:
Would you consider yourself

A. Anti-Israel
I'm against the original occupation, but now that is already happened and people settled, I think we should get along and start over

B. Anti-Jew
Hell No

C. Anti-Zionist
Not sure

D. All of the above
Not sure (duh!)

E. Some combination of these (please explain)
I'll take that as an "other info."
I heard some bad things about Zionism, but since they are people (the choice was Anti-Zionist), I can't judge.

Thanks in advance for entertaining my obnoxious question!
You're welcome <<<can't paint the smiley in red.

Please see my response in red above.

 

[Gharib]

...

If this were 1945, I would agree with you. But there are people who have lived there now for 70+ years. Generations of families. Those responsible are dead or dying, and their descendents do not deserve to be punished by something as fickle as being their children & grandchildren. That would be a crime no less than the colonization of East Jerusalem, Gaza, the Golan Heights and so on.

I totally agree, we should not take the land away from those whose fathers and grandfathers seized by force some 70 years ago. Lets take it by force from those who've lived there for over 1000 years. That sound about right. I believe that's western thinking is it not?

Both sides are equally at fault here, period. Both have proven they don't deserve a state.

You're a champion. I could have said it better myself but what do I know.

 

[Godobeyer]

I am anti-racist , and kill innocents "random kill" and abuse , whatever the religion .

 

[Augustus]

Its better for them leave because they lived in west for centuries. They were never the indigenous people of Palestine. These are the Palestinians which we see today.

Should the Muslim Turks give Constantinople back to the Christians and let them turn the Hagia Sophia back into a church? They could go back to Central Asia after all.

 

[gsa]

Its better for them leave because they lived in west for centuries. They were never the indigenous people of Palestine. These are the Palestinians which we see today.

Jews had a continuous presence and a religious and cultural connection to Israel from the destruction of the Second Temple through the founding of the modern state of Israel. So the situation is different from the one in South Africa, for example, where there was no reasonable basis for claiming a connection to the land before the establishment of the white colonies.

Anyways other part is because they are godless in their ruling, allowing homosexuality and others that goes against the law of Moses.

How seriously do you take this? We all know that male homosexuality is rampant in Saudi Arabia and the government by and large looks the other way. We know that Lebanon has gays, Turkey has gays, Egypt has gays (and no specific law targeting gays), Jordan...Jordan doesn't criminalize homosexuality either.

Your homophobic justification doesn't even make sense in light of what we know about the status of gays in these Muslim countries.

Another reason is that the caliphate( which will return insha Allah) shall again rule over al aqsa as it did in the past. And this is truthful prophecy.

Competing Christian and Jewish prophecies disagree.

The problem with the zionist entity is her godless rule. The Atheist estabilishment within Holy land is not logical one.
Also the grabbing of lands from the indigenous people(palestinians) is one of the reasons why an caliphate will never allow such entity to operate within the sacred Al-Aqsa. So time is ticking.

If only Israel were truly godless! That would be a vast improvement. But alas, it is not godless.