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Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
to the best of my knowledge a jew is of the faith . an israelite lives in israel ( many muslims and christians live in israel ) but a zionist ( big in america ) want to rebuild solomons temple and bring about armageddon according to its prophecy .

interesting and just as worrying , i think im talking about the american neo-con use of the zionist movement and its end game . israel really isnt doing itself any favours , its existence depends on israel turning away from zionism and assimilating into the region or world war . fair assumption ?

A Jew is a member of the Jewish people. They might identify as religious Jewish, but not always.

An Israeli is a citizen of the modern state of Israel. All Jews can claim citizenship under the Law of Return, but many Israelis are not Jewish.

Zionism is a political movement to establish a sovereign state for the Jewish people. Now that that state has been founded, its focus is the defense and continuation of that state.



American neocons, and their understanding of anything, are irrelevant.
 

Moishe3rd

Yehudi
No, of course not. None of them should. if we start to tell people to 'go home' then there is nowhere it will stop. Almost every country in the world is full of 'invaders'. You can't punish people for the sins of their forefathers.

Was just pointing out that you consider Jews to be a special case who need to be treated differently to all other people in the world.
You people funny. Seriously.
If the Jewish State of Israel were to be treated the same as any other country (or people) in the world, the only news that you would hear would be the incredible demand for Israeli technology. Israeli and/or Jew hatred would not exist and the Arabs called Palestinians would simply be one more of the innumerable Arab and/or Muslim groups that are trying to establish tribal dominance in any particular Arab and/or Muslim neighborhood.
That's all.

The only reason the questions in this thread are viable is because Israel is The Jewish State.
ALL of these questions could be posed in their culture specific form to almost any other country on planet Earth that has conquered or is currently trying to conquer someone else.
Are Muslims who have been conquered by the tribe of al Saud anti Wahhabists? Are they anti - Saudi? Are they anti Sunni?
The Arabs still called Palestinians in Jordan - are they anti-Hashemite?
The same in every Arab and Muslim land regarding their current ruling tribe or faction.
And, of course, the same throughout the world - Are Ukrainians anti- Russian? Are Chechens anti Russian? Georgians? How about the descendants of the aboriginal North Americans - are they anti US?
Are Tibetans anti China? Pakistanis anti India and vice versa?

"The whole world is festering with unhappy souls.
The French hate the Germans and the Germans hate the Poles.
Italians hate the Yugoslavs; South Africans hate the Dutch.
And I don't like anybody very much!!"

I really do believe that Jew hatred blinds people to the absurdity of singling out the Jewish State of Israel for such disapprobation. It is kind of funny though...
 

pro4life

Member
I believe there is a prophecy where the Jews living in the Israel area will be exterminated and their women and children takes as prisoners.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Anti-Zionist, no better than the Crusaders imo.

I'm also anti Israel because it has broken so many UN resolutions without recoil. You can only take so many shots before your arm starts to hurt.

This seems more a statement of corruption in the UN than a slam of Israel.
 

Moishe3rd

Yehudi
Israel holds to much power.
Too much for whom?
Compared to whom?
And, if you really think that, you need to take up the issue with G-d.

Who else other than G-d would have the power to give the smallest and weakest of all peoples "too much power "?
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
Too much for whom?
Compared to whom?
And, if you really think that, you need to take up the issue with G-d.

Who else other than G-d would have the power to give the smallest and weakest of all peoples "too much power "?

Weapons designers, rich friends? :)
 
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