Hide the Eggs From Jesus Day...

[steeltoes]

Jesus died on Friday.
On Sunday Jesus came back.
This is why we hide the eggs.
Can someone explain this to me?
I can understand the idea of eggs coming from bunnies, this is so that the chickens are also safe, but why hide the eggs in the first place?

I never knew there was a connection between Easter eggs and Jesus. We don't celebrate any of the Christian aspects of Easter, it's too morbid.

 

[JayJayDee]

I never knew there was a connection between Easter eggs and Jesus.

There aren't any.

We don't celebrate any of the Christian aspects of Easter, it's too morbid.

There are actually no "Christian" aspects to Easter.....there never was.

The Lord's supper was celebrated on Nisan 14 on the Jewish calendar, the same night as the Jewish Passover. This one commemoration was all that Christians were asked to memorialize....his sacrificial death, not his resurrection. (Luke 22:19, 20; 1 Cor 11:23-26) This does not include the pagan trappings attached to the worship of a false goddess...no eggs, no rabbits, no chickens. Not even chocolate ones. :no:

 

[Nakosis]

There aren't any.



There are actually no "Christian" aspects to Easter.....there never was.

The Lord's supper was celebrated on Nisan 14 on the Jewish calendar, the same night as the Jewish Passover. This one commemoration was all that Christians were asked to memorialize....his sacrificial death, not his resurrection. (Luke 22:19, 20; 1 Cor 11:23-26) This does not include the pagan trappings attached to the worship of a false goddess...no eggs, no rabbits, no chickens. Not even chocolate ones. :no:

So what? Christianity is obviously a combining of different beliefs. Who's to say the Judeans had any better knowledge about God than the Pagans?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I seem to recall God forbidding his people to adopt the practices of the pagan nations, which he said were "detestable" to him. (Deut 18:9)

The Bible also forbids judging Christians with regard to the festivals they keep (Colossians 2:16), but you don't seem to care too much about THAT passage. Seeing how you're picking and choosing which verses to follow yourself, maybe you could be more sympathetic when other people do it.

 

[Drolefille]

Rabbit's milk?

Funny how all these traditions come down through time and people assume that the thin veneer of Christianity that is plastered over them wipes out their pagan origins.

Just to repeat...."Easter" is not a Biblically supported celebration...in fact there is no mention of "Easter" at all in the scriptures....that could have something to do with the fact that "Easter" is the name of a fertility goddess (also known as Ishtar or Astarte) whose symbols were rabbits and eggs? It is none other than the ancient fertility rites of the spring equinox which are cunningly disguised as a Christian event. Even the hot cross buns of Good Friday, along with the dyed eggs of Pasch or Easter Sunday, figured in the ancient Babylonian rites just as they do now.

The Encyclopædia Britannica commented: “There is no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament, or in the writings of the apostolic Fathers. The sanctity of special times was an idea absent from the minds of the first Christians.”

The Catholic Encyclopedia tells us: “A great many pagan customs, celebrating the return of spring, gravitated to Easter. The egg is the emblem of the germinating life of early spring. . . . The rabbit is a pagan symbol and has always been an emblem of fertility.”

I seem to recall God forbidding his people to adopt the practices of the pagan nations, which he said were "detestable" to him. (Deut 18:9)

Would someone like to show me where the first Christians held something akin to Lent? Isn't this also just another man-made tradition? What does it have to do with Jesus' death?

Easter has nothing to do with Ishtar.

 

[JayJayDee]

Easter has nothing to do with Ishtar.

Is the word "Easter" in the Bible? If it's not, where did it come from?

 

[Drolefille]

Is the word "Easter" in the Bible? If it's not, where did it come from?

I didn't say it was in the Bible. I said it has nothing to do with Ishtar.
Many words are neither in the bible nor derived from Ishtar.

It means the "Month of Opening" - there's some claim it comes from a goddess named "Eostre" but there's not really a record for her existing anyway and since it was Charlemange who named it, it seems unlikely he was naming things after pagan gods.
To quote a quote I quoted in a previous post:

Our main source for the word 'Easter' is Bede, writing around 730AD in On the Reckoning of Time who says:

In olden times the English people—for it did not seem fitting that I should speak of other nations' observance of the year and yet be silent about my own nation's—calculated their months according to the course of the Moon. Hence, after the manner of the Greeks and the Romans, [the months] take their name from the Moon, for the Moon is called mona and the month monath. The first month, which the Latins call January, is Giuli; February is called Solmonath; March Hrethmonath; April, Eosturmonath … Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated "Paschal month" and which was once called after a goddess of theirs named Eostre, in whose honour feasts were celebrated in that month. Now they designate that Paschal season by her name, calling the joys of the new rite by the time-honoured name of the old observance.

The problem is the existence of the said goddess, who outside of Bede doesn't really exist. Bede has his own historical problems, and recognizes in this instance that he's not really sure about it and it's Bede's interpretation, rather than being supported from outside evidence.
The other linguistic issue, is that Anglo-Saxons named their months agriculturally, not according to deities (see the list here[1] ). So it's rather strange that Eostre should suddenly pop up and be a month name. You also see the problem with Hredmonath - outside of Bede, there's no knowledge of the goddess (if that is indeed what it's referring to). Philip Shaw recently published a monograph on this[2] and attempts to link 'Easter' with the Old Norse 'austr' the "East". The problem is that it's one thing to show a linguistic link - it's another to show that there actually was something called Eostre that was worshipped.
Yet another issue is that Charlemagne is responsible for renaming all the months of the year, and April is turned into 'Ostarmanoth' - considering that Charlemagne has been waging war on the Saxons[3] and converting them somewhat by force, it's a bit strange that he'd suddenly name the month after a pagan goddess.
So it makes much more sense that Eostermonath to be translated as 'the month of opening' - which fits with the time period (spring), rather than the goddess.

Besides, "Easter" is a (relatively) new name for it: In Latin/Greek/French/Italian/Catalan/Portugese/Romanian/Albanian/Dutch/Cornish/Breton/Russian/and so on the words for Easter resemble "Pasch" or Paskha"

So... why would it only be English that would reveal this supposed link to Ishtar? It doesn't. It's a myth. Don't spread bad information.

Argue that it isn't in the Bible, but don't make the mistake of thinking that English words are "THE" words for something.

 

[JayJayDee]

I didn't say it was in the Bible. I said it has nothing to do with Ishtar.
Many words are neither in the bible nor derived from Ishtar.

It means the "Month of Opening" - there's some claim it comes from a goddess named "Eostre" but there's not really a record for her existing anyway and since it was Charlemange who named it, it seems unlikely he was naming things after pagan gods.
To quote a quote I quoted in a previous post:

Besides, "Easter" is a (relatively) new name for it: In Latin/Greek/French/Italian/Catalan/Portugese/Romanian/Albanian/Dutch/Cornish/Breton/Russian/and so on the words for Easter resemble "Pasch" or Paskha"

So... why would it only be English that would reveal this supposed link to Ishtar? It doesn't. It's a myth. Don't spread bad information.

Argue that it isn't in the Bible, but don't make the mistake of thinking that English words are "THE" words for something.

The Assyrian Origins of Easter

By Ann-Margret Yonan


What does the word Easter mean? It is certainly not a Christian word or name. What does this word Easter have to do with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Easter, like all Christian holidays and festivals, has its origins in the Assyrian religion, and the word comes from the name of the ancient Assyrian Mother-Goddess, Ishtar, who was also called Shamuramat (Colloquial Shamiram, the Helenized Semiramis) and Inanna. Ishtar is the female equal of Ashur, and at times Ishtar and Ashur are the same and equal in strength and in length, yet their distinction remains to the extent that Ashur is the Sun , (Bahra/light) and Ishtar the moon. Therefore, Easter is nothing more than ISHTAR, one of the titles of the Assyrian queen Shamuramat, the queen of heaven, whose name, as pronounced by the people of Nineveh, with that now in common use. That name, as found by Henry Layard on the Assyrian monuments is Ishtar, the Moon Goddess of love, fertility, and war."

The Origin of Easter

Now, do I take her word for it or yours?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The Assyrian Origins of Easter

By Ann-Margret Yonan


What does the word Easter mean? It is certainly not a Christian word or name. What does this word Easter have to do with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Easter, like all Christian holidays and festivals, has its origins in the Assyrian religion, and the word comes from the name of the ancient Assyrian Mother-Goddess, Ishtar, who was also called Shamuramat (Colloquial Shamiram, the Helenized Semiramis) and Inanna. Ishtar is the female equal of Ashur, and at times Ishtar and Ashur are the same and equal in strength and in length, yet their distinction remains to the extent that Ashur is the Sun , (Bahra/light) and Ishtar the moon. Therefore, Easter is nothing more than ISHTAR, one of the titles of the Assyrian queen Shamuramat, the queen of heaven, whose name, as pronounced by the people of Nineveh, with that now in common use. That name, as found by Henry Layard on the Assyrian monuments is Ishtar, the Moon Goddess of love, fertility, and war."

The Origin of Easter

Now, do I take her word for it or yours?

That article is a complete load of hogwash. She ripped that crap off from the anti-Catholic nonsense of Alexander Hislop's the Two Babylons, which has no basis in reality.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Jesus died on Friday.
On Sunday Jesus came back.
This is why we hide the eggs.
Can someone explain this to me?
I can understand the idea of eggs coming from bunnies, this is so that the chickens are also safe, but why hide the eggs in the first place?

As been explained its a pagan holiday (most likely Eostre) that symbolized fertility and rebirth. What are rabbis known for? As bugs bunny would say "Multiplying". Eggs are a symbol of the circle of life and birth/rebirth. It overall is to celebrate the earth coming out of the dead and barren winter into the life-stricken spring. All the animals are screwing and grass is growing and flowers and human sacrifice.

But for the life of me I can't figure out WHY we HIDE the eggs. Best I can come up with is that its a fun random game to keep the children occupied so you can focus on grilling your steaks and have a beer.

 

[Drolefille]

The Assyrian Origins of Easter

By Ann-Margret Yonan


What does the word Easter mean? It is certainly not a Christian word or name. What does this word Easter have to do with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Easter, like all Christian holidays and festivals, has its origins in the Assyrian religion, and the word comes from the name of the ancient Assyrian Mother-Goddess, Ishtar, who was also called Shamuramat (Colloquial Shamiram, the Helenized Semiramis) and Inanna. Ishtar is the female equal of Ashur, and at times Ishtar and Ashur are the same and equal in strength and in length, yet their distinction remains to the extent that Ashur is the Sun , (Bahra/light) and Ishtar the moon. Therefore, Easter is nothing more than ISHTAR, one of the titles of the Assyrian queen Shamuramat, the queen of heaven, whose name, as pronounced by the people of Nineveh, with that now in common use. That name, as found by Henry Layard on the Assyrian monuments is Ishtar, the Moon Goddess of love, fertility, and war."

The Origin of Easter

Now, do I take her word for it or yours?

How does Pascha, the Latin for the holiday have anything to do with Ishtar? Unless you think that they spoke English in Ancient Rome? You don't even have an England until 1066. Occam's razor suggests that a secret tie to Ishtar that didn't reveal itself in the name of the holiday until the development of even Old English is unbelievable.


Or go with the source that agrees with you and thinks that citing "The Old Testament" is a legit citation.

 

[XIII-Legion]

Jesus died on Friday.

But how do you know this?

A mere supposition without evidence to support your claim.

On Sunday Jesus came back.

Again, what is your source? And what evidence do you have to support it?

 

[McBell]

shameless bump

 

[McBell]

Is the word "Easter" in the Bible? If it's not, where did it come from?

Acts 12:4

 

[JayJayDee]

Acts 12:4

Only the KJV would be deceptive enough to treat the original text with such contempt by translating of the word "Passover" as "Easter". How insulting to the God who hates those who mix true worship with false worship. (2 Cor 6:14-18)

 

[McBell]

Only the KJV would be deceptive enough to treat the original text with such contempt by translating of the word "Passover" as "Easter". How insulting to the God who hates those who mix true worship with false worship. (2 Cor 6:14-18)

King James Onlyists
They say you are flat out wrong.

Go figure.

 

[Vishvavajra]

Is the word "Easter" in the Bible? If it's not, where did it come from?

Sorry, but that is a stupid question. None of the books that make up the Bible were composed in Germanic languages. You should not be terribly surprised that words of Germanic origin get used when they are translated into Germanic languages like English. That is not evidence of pagan corruption or any other such nonsense. You know what other word doesn't appear in the Bible? "Bible."

Easter (cf. German Ostern) is the English name for Passover as celebrated by Christians. Its name seems to be etymologically related to the word east, suggesting the rising sun, perhaps the coming of spring and general rebirth. In that sense it's entirely appropriate.

As for eggs and rabbits, Easter is a celebration of life and its triumph over death, so symbols of life abound. They take the form of fertile biological life, even though "life" in Christian usage has a more esoteric meaning. There's nothing pagan about it. It's just that some people like to get up on their high horses and accuse everybody else of being decadent etc. while they're the only ones carrying on the "pure" tradition. But there's no evidence of pre-Christian Easter celebrations as such, so unless the very concept of life and fertility are inherently pagan (a stupid premise, if you ask me), there's nothing remotely sketchy about it.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Sorry, but that is a stupid question. None of the books that make up the Bible were composed in Germanic languages. You should not be terribly surprised that words of Germanic origin get used when they are translated into Germanic languages like English. That is not evidence of pagan corruption or any other such nonsense. You know what other word doesn't appear in the Bible? "Bible."

Easter (cf. German Ostern) is the English name for Passover as celebrated by Christians. Its name seems to be etymologically related to the word east, suggesting the rising sun, perhaps the coming of spring and general rebirth. In that sense it's entirely appropriate.

As for eggs and rabbits, Easter is a celebration of life and its triumph over death, so symbols of life abound. They take the form of fertile biological life, even though "life" in Christian usage has a more esoteric meaning. There's nothing pagan about it. It's just that some people like to get up on their high horses and accuse everybody else of being decadent etc. while they're the only ones carrying on the "pure" tradition. But there's no evidence of pre-Christian Easter celebrations as such, so unless the very concept of life and fertility are inherently pagan (a stupid premise, if you ask me), there's nothing remotely sketchy about it.

The original word it was derived from was Ostara which the spring equinox festival where ancient pagans would celebrate the rebirth of nature during spring. Bunnies were a sign of fertility which was also tied to the celebrations and eggs of course represented new life. Painting them didn't really have any special significant except perhaps that spring is colorful?

 

[lovemuffin]

There's an 8th century text called "The Reckoning of Time" by a Christian monk named Bede that talks about the name "easter" as the name of the month, as well as a pre-christian festival that occurred in that month.

"Nor is it irrelevant if we take the time to translate the names of the other months. ... Hrethmonath is named for their goddess Hretha, to whom they sacrificed at this time. Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated "Paschal month", and which was once called after a goddess of theirs named Eostre, in whose honour feasts were celebrated in that month. Now they designate that Paschal season by her name, calling the joys of the new rite by the time-honoured name of the old observance"
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Ēostre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bede, on 'Eostre'

 

[Vishvavajra]

The original word it was derived from was Ostara which the spring equinox festival where ancient pagans would celebrate the rebirth of nature during spring. Bunnies were a sign of fertility which was also tied to the celebrations and eggs of course represented new life. Painting them didn't really have any special significant except perhaps that spring is colorful?

Ostara is the hypothetical reconstruction of the Old Germanic word that would have been the root of Easter and Ostern. It could be accurate, but it's not actually attested anywhere. Bede does suggest that Easter was the name of a goddess of the spring, but it's not clear where he got the idea, what his source was (if any), or how he could have known if it were really true. Much as with most Christian authors purporting to describe pagan stuff, it pays to be very skeptical.

Snorri Sturluson, for example, will tell you for certain that the Aesir (Norse gods) were from Troy, based on their name and the fact that Troy was in Asia. That must have seemed a very learned conclusion at the time.