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Hillary Asks China To Hack IRS !!!!

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe she was joking.
Both Trump & Hillary were joking when they invited foreign hacking.
But of course anti-Trumpettes went off the deep end believing he
was serious, intentional & successful. This is TDS.

Let's watch to see if any pro-Trumpers exhibit HDS, & believe that
she too is serious in her invitation to hack the IRS.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Something fun in the news....
Hillary Clinton suggests scenario in which Democrat asks China to hack IRS for Trump's tax returns - CNNPolitics


This post is for people who believe Trump openly asked the Russians to hack her emails.
Please explain the difference between his treason & hers.

It's ironic that you ask this question, because that's the point she is exactly making.

The point is ethically and morally, no one should be asking other countries to do illegal activities even in jest.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Neither was treason, in full context Trump was making a joke about the democrats when he said it and Hillary seems to be attempting to play on the past in a "what if" scenario most likely to keep the narrative alive in the lead up to 2020. She claimed recently that she is "living in Donald Trumps head rent free" it seems the opposite is true since she keeps putting herself out there and commenting on Trump due to her own obsession with him.

Maybe she was joking.

I think her intent was far more partisan
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's ironic that you ask this question, because that's the point she is exactly making.

The point is ethically and morally, no one should be asking other countries to do illegal activities even in jest.
That's one way to view it.

Neither was treason, in full context Trump was making a joke about the democrats when he said it and Hillary seems to be attempting to play on the past in a "what if" scenario most likely to keep the narrative alive in the lead up to 2020. She claimed recently that she is "living in Donald Trumps head rent free" it seems the opposite is true since she keeps putting herself out there and commenting on Trump due to her own obsession with him.
That's another.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
That's one way to view it.


That's another.

The other context here, although you might disagree with this, is that she wouldn't have asked for China's help in any other situation. It is specifically to illustrate the harm of Trump's actions. That is the difference between her actions and Trump's.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Neither was treason, in full context Trump was making a joke about the democrats when he said it and Hillary seems to be attempting to play on the past in a "what if" scenario most likely to keep the narrative alive in the lead up to 2020. She claimed recently that she is "living in Donald Trumps head rent free" it seems the opposite is true since she keeps putting herself out there and commenting on Trump due to her own obsession with him.



I think her intent was far more partisan

You think her attempt was more partisan?

Both attempts were to promote their respective side, so yes, there were partisan.

But how could you conclude that her attempt was more? How do you judge this? By what actually resulted from the comments? Well, Trump's comments initiated a powerful foreign nation to hack his opposition's server and resulted actual damning data, which was then used with benefit for his election.

So again, who's comment was more partisan?

It's all in the eye of the beholder.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The other context here, although you might disagree with this, is that she wouldn't have asked for China's help in any other situation. It is specifically to illustrate the harm of Trump's actions. That is the difference between her actions and Trump's.
Really ? like her actions like using an illegal server, deleting thousands of emails she was under order to preserve, and beating to pieces two government owned devices ?

No harm there, right ?
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Really ? like her actions like using an illegal server, deleting thousands of emails she was under order to preserve, and beating to pieces two government owned devices ?

No harm there, right ?
so says the legal investigation into her. But if you know of any harm her actions caused, please do tell us?
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Really ? like her actions like using an illegal server, deleting thousands of emails she was under order to preserve, and beating to pieces two government owned devices ?

No harm there, right ?

That's comparing oranges to apples.

You're right, they were wrong and I'll agree with that. But would you like to start a new thread on that?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
What Trump tweets or says is often reprehensible.

With the economy soaring to record highs, stock market at record highs, employment at record highs, unemployment at record lows, pay increases rising, I have concluded that what he says is completely separate from what his administration accomplishes.

I will accept the nonsense for the positive benefits. Remember, obammy said we would have to accept 2% growth as the highest we could expect, in perpetuity.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Something fun in the news....
Hillary Clinton suggests scenario in which Democrat asks China to hack IRS for Trump's tax returns - CNNPolitics


This post is for people who believe Trump openly asked the Russians to hack her emails.
Please explain the difference between his treason & hers.

You misread the article you linked to. She was making a point you seemed to have missed. Her point is that there is no difference between her hypothetical and Trump's actions.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
so says the legal investigation into her. But if you know of any harm her actions caused, please do tell us?
The point is, she was so flagrantly out of policy, and her system so easily hacked, we may never know what harm she caused.

Opening the gate, as she did, to possibly allow other governments in, is harm in itself.

But she is safe, her crimes will go unpunished, because the political hierarchy protects their own, regardless of party.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Something fun in the news....
Hillary Clinton suggests scenario in which Democrat asks China to hack IRS for Trump's tax returns - CNNPolitics


This post is for people who believe Trump openly asked the Russians to hack her emails.
Please explain the difference between his treason & hers.
Did you not understand the article? It was a hypothetical that she proposed for a candidate to show how wrong what Trump did. She did not actually suggest such an action.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Everything Trump says is a joke...that is his endless out for criticism. He has no verbal integrity at all.

Trump, therefore, is a joke.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
You think her attempt was more partisan?

Yes, by creating a "what if" scenario around an old false narrative that just happened to pop up again in the relatively short lead up to the 2020 election I'd say it was attempt to dog-whistle a distant memory in the public's mind to refreshen it- a trigger if you wish to possibly help the democrats.

Both attempts were to promote their respective side, so yes, there were partisan.

In Trumps case it was a reaction/joke against those that claimed he was working with Russia right before the election, so yes in a way it was partisan in the sense he was reacting to a dubious claim.
Adding to that other fear based claims if Trump won in 2016:
Trump will put Muslims in concentration camps
Trump will start a Nuclear war
It will be open season on black people

Well, Trump's comments initiated a powerful foreign nation to hack his opposition's server

That is the narrative at least
 
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