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Hillary knew the Americans wouldn't accept

Audie

Veteran Member
I really think part of the reason she did not get elected was because she is a woman. I think the racial backlash and perceived disappointment of Obama administration transferred over to the perceived ideas that a female president would too, be disastrous.

An awful lot of people voted for her because she is a woman.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
No one ever seemed to talk about that Hillary would have been the first female president in USA. I know USA is all about proclaming itself as modern and all but really. If Hillary had been a man her story would have won.


Hillary sure never tired of mentioning it.

Thing is, being president is not a "everyone should get a fair turn"

I voted for her, with extreme reluctance. Trump made me do it.

Put up a good candidate for us!

I honestly think that we'd elect a gorilla if (she) knew what to say and how to act.
 
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Shushersbedamned

Well-Known Member
Hillary sure tired of mentioning it.

Thing is, being president is not a "everyone should get a fair turn"

I voted for her, with extreme reluctance. Trump made me do it.

Put up a good candidate for us!

I honestly think that we'd elect a gorilla if (she) knew what to say and how to act.
Gorillas are really nice. I'd sleep next to one all my life rather than trump
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No one ever seemed to talk about that Hillary would have been the first female president in USA. I know USA is all about proclaming itself as modern and all but really. If Hillary had been a man her story would have won.
We shouldn't or ought not to cast votes for people just on the basis of gender or race.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No one ever seemed to talk about that Hillary would have been the first female president in USA. I know USA is all about proclaming itself as modern and all but really. If Hillary had been a man her story would have won.

A lot of the story of Hillary had would of been non-existent or completely different if she was a man. I doubt Hillary would have be a politician at all. Changing her sex carries implications in her history you can not ignore.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Where was she in Benganzi?
And where were you in Benghazi? If you followed the hearings on this, you would know that what happened cannot in any way be laid on her. Wanna gripe, then gripe at the fact that the Republicans pushed to reduce expenditures for security there and at other American consulates.

If Hillary didn't make a joke out of her illegal servers she would have had a better chance.
Are you aware that Trump is using an "illegal" phone for his Twitter account, and he won't give it up?

not presidential material
And you honestly think that Trump is? Which ally of ours has he not upset? And what about his tax cuts that will significantly hurt the poor and many elderly plus throw an extra burden on our kids future? What do you think Jesus would think about that? Where in the gospels does it say he would advocate hurting those who are the most vulnerable? Why have so many evangelicals become so anti what Jesus taught?

IMO, the only way to support Trump is to basically "sell one's soul" to materialism, hedonism, and dishonesty, which is Trump in a nutshell.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
And where were you in Benghazi? If you followed the hearings on this, you would know that what happened cannot in any way be laid on her. Wanna gripe, then gripe at the fact that the Republicans pushed to reduce expenditures for security there and at other American consulates.

Are you aware that Trump is using an "illegal" phone for his Twitter account, and he won't give it up?

And you honestly think that Trump is? Which ally of ours has he not upset? And what about his tax cuts that will significantly hurt the poor and many elderly plus throw an extra burden on our kids future? What do you think Jesus would think about that? Where in the gospels does it say he would advocate hurting those who are the most vulnerable? Why have so many evangelicals become so anti what Jesus taught?

IMO, the only way to support Trump is to basically "sell one's soul" to materialism, hedonism, and dishonesty, which is Trump in a nutshell.

I held my nose and voted for Trump because the alternative was worse.

Sad indeed...
Hillary’s Legendary Lies: Benghazi
But On The Night Of And Day After The Attack, Clinton Also Emailed Her Daughter And The Egyptian Prime Minister Acknowledging It Was A Terrorist Attack And "Had Nothing To Do With The Film"

On September 12, 2012, Clinton Told The Egyptian Prime Minister That The Administration Knew The Benghazi Attack "Had Nothing To Do With The Film" And That It "Was A Planned Attack-Not A Protest." (Lawrence Randolph, Email To S_CallNotes, State Department Release, 9/12/12)


The Benghazi Timeline, Clinton Edition - FactCheck.org
In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the video, but made no mention of terrorists or a terrorist attack. An hour later, she sent an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that made no reference to the video, and blamed “an al Qaeda-like group.” (The State Department’s Operations Center earlier that night sent an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts — a fact that was not made public until Reuters reported it on Oct. 24, 2012.)

Clinton issued a statement, which made no mention of the anti-Muslim video, and she delivered a speech, which did. Neither referred to a terrorist attack.

Privately, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff wrote an email that said “we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted ‘over inflammatory videos,’” and Clinton told the Egyptian prime minister that the video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attacks.

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Bottom line
her public and private comments are too far apart and are problematic
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hillary didn't lose the popular vote.

The American people are now so thoroughly and evenly divided that most elections are very close. And the republican party has successfully rigged the voting system so as to ensure it wins these very close elections. Trump was basically appointed president by an electoral college that ignored the majority of popular votes. George W. Bush was also appointed, not elected, twice. The only way a democrat can win is if he/she gains a significant enough number of popular votes that it overwhelms those states that allow their electors to ignore the popular vote in their states (some states allow this, and some do not).
George W. Bush won his second election by a clear majority of the popular vote. Something that Bill Clinton did not do in either of his elections.
 
I held my nose and voted for Trump because the alternative was worse.

Sad indeed...
Hillary’s Legendary Lies: Benghazi
But On The Night Of And Day After The Attack, Clinton Also Emailed Her Daughter And The Egyptian Prime Minister Acknowledging It Was A Terrorist Attack And "Had Nothing To Do With The Film"

On September 12, 2012, Clinton Told The Egyptian Prime Minister That The Administration Knew The Benghazi Attack "Had Nothing To Do With The Film" And That It "Was A Planned Attack-Not A Protest." (Lawrence Randolph, Email To S_CallNotes, State Department Release, 9/12/12)


The Benghazi Timeline, Clinton Edition - FactCheck.org
In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the video, but made no mention of terrorists or a terrorist attack. An hour later, she sent an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that made no reference to the video, and blamed “an al Qaeda-like group.” (The State Department’s Operations Center earlier that night sent an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts — a fact that was not made public until Reuters reported it on Oct. 24, 2012.)

Clinton issued a statement, which made no mention of the anti-Muslim video, and she delivered a speech, which did. Neither referred to a terrorist attack.

Privately, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff wrote an email that said “we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted ‘over inflammatory videos,’” and Clinton told the Egyptian prime minister that the video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attacks.

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Bottom line
her public and private comments are too far apart and are problematic

Right lets bomb the **** out of Libya for the death of 5 men. I'm sure that's exactly what Jesus would wanted. Kill all the infidels who dare appose Freedom.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No she won the popular vote. She lost the one that counts. She lost the electoral vote.
No, I repeat, she did not win the popular vote. Hillary Clinton got 48.2% of the votes. That is not a majority. She received a higher plurality of votes than others. But that isn’t the same thing. 51.8% of voters did not vote for Hillary Clinton.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No, I repeat, she did not win the popular vote. Hillary Clinton got 48.2% of the votes. That is not a majority. She received a higher plurality of votes than others. But that isn’t the same thing. 51.8% of voters did not vote for Hillary Clinton.
I see that you are confused. Winning a plurality is winning the popular vote. No one else had more votes than she did. Now if you said she did not win the majority of votes that would have been correct. Winning by either majority of plurality is winning the popular vote.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Right lets bomb the **** out of Libya for the death of 5 men. I'm sure that's exactly what Jesus would wanted. Kill all the infidels who dare appose Freedom.
I see that you are confused. Winning a plurality is winning the popular vote. No one else had more votes than she did. Now if you said she did not win the majority of votes that would have been correct. Winning by either majority of plurality is winning the popular vote.
I am not confused whatsoever. Winning a plurality is a distinctly different thing from winning the popular vote. You are simply in error.
 
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