tytlyf
Not Religious
I concur. Neither are running in 2024
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Hillary vs Donald in 2024?
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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I vote based upon agendas rather than intelligence & honesty.
A smart & honest person who opposes liberty is a real threat.
Give me a lying dumbo who values civil liberties & peace instead.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
If Hillary Clinton is the democratic nominee in the 2024 presidential election, then I'll vote for her. I didn't vote for her in 2016, and I regretted that decision for the next four years with Donald Trump in the White House. I was still a conservative and registered as a Republican in 2016, so I voted third party rather than vote for Hillary. I didn't feel comfortable voting democratic, and I refused to vote for Trump. I spent the next four years miserably feeling like I made a terrible mistake for not voting for her. I won't make that same mistake again in 2024. I'll admit that I was deeply relieved when Trump lost the 2020 election. It was like breathing in fresh air after breathing toxic fumes for the last four years. Jon Bon Jovi singing 'Here Comes The Sun' for Biden's inauguration was perfect.
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Please no! Does the nightmare never end?
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
I don't think anyone decent wants to run because politics has gotten so corrupt. The decent people would be eaten alive.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Both of them have such big egos that they would do anything to win.
Dishonesty is indeed a big advantage
to those unbothered by it.
In the news....
Opinion | Hillary Clinton’s 2024 Election Comeback
Opinion | Hillary Clinton’s 2024 Election Comeback
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Biden was the worst of all the dem candidates.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I think the last decade or two have proven that morality only matters when it's the "otherside" caught being immoral; I.E. the level of outrage is determined by the political affiliation of the culprit more so than the misdeed itself.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
In the news....
POLITICO Playbook: Bill and Hillary peek their heads out
POLITICO Playbook: Bill and Hillary peek their heads out
To be a good person is....well....good.
But more important than that is the agendas they'd pursue
& effect in office. A good person might oppose bodily autonomy
(eg, reproductive rights), 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th....Amendment
rights.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Where's that <Ugh!> frubal when needed, eh.
Audie
Veteran Member
Who else is there?
And therein lies the voter's problem: how do you determine the real agenda of someone seeking public office and power? Sure, we check out their platform, listen carefully to their speeches, see what they do when challenged in a debate, and so on. But for the most part, all we really have is their history.
I am a great believer in the notion that, by and large, we humans (once we've reached some level of maturity) really don't change all that much. As a result, I've found that Behavioural-Focused Interviewing (BFI) can be very helpful in choosing the best candidates for difficult roles, or for expensive, company-sponsored MBA programs and so on. When push comes to shove, how you react in most situtations will not differ so very much from how you reacted in very similar situations in the past.
So, in fact, I don't listen to politica speeches and debates so much. I try to learn the history of candidates.
I don't claim that I'm a better voter than anybody else -- in the end, everyone with great responsibility will face situations they've never faced before, so there's no way to predict how they'll behave. But I think I do better when it comes to the business of managing day-to-day government.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's rigged to be a duopoly.
It's made to a point It's almost impossible for a third party to ever enter an election cycle, and the candidates seem hand picked to run rather than voted by the people.
Is it bad that I am beyond curious to see the results of that particular election?
Perhaps not being in America I can be more jovial about it. But omg the popcorn I’d consume during that election campaign. Wow
Perhaps not being in America I can be more jovial about it. But omg the popcorn I’d consume during that election campaign. Wow