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Hindu goat sacrifice sparks riot

ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
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We can't really dictate for what others should do when we don't do better ourselves. The reason of killing an animal isn't in question, it makes no difference to the animal. But unless someone is a vegan, we shouldn't complain about it until we are vegans ourselves.
What I am saying is that vegans are the only ones who are qualified to complain about this. The rest of us would be hypocritical, in my view.
 
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Onkara

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ChristineES said:
We can't really dictate for what others should do when we don't do better ourselves. The reason of killing an animal isn't in question, it makes no difference to the animal. But unless someone is a vegan, we shouldn't complain about it until we are vegans ourselves.
What I am saying is that vegans are the only ones who are qualified to complain about this. The rest of us would be hypocritical, in my view.
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Hi ChristineES
Your are dead right (pardon the pun). This has been on my mind since this post yesterday. I cannot condemn sacrificing animals then eat them in a restaurant.
But the odd thing is, if you love God, then any sacrifice for God has more value than a meal in a restaurant. Would any theists agree or not with that idea?
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Onkarah said:
Hi ChristineES
Your are dead right (pardon the pun). This has been on my mind since this post yesterday. I cannot condemn sacrificing animals then eat them in a restaurant.
But the odd thing is, if you love God, then any sacrifice for God has more value than a meal in a restaurant. Would any theists agree or not with that idea?
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To we who are religious, we can see that and we can agree. But I don't really expect a non-religious person to see that. We really can't understand something fully unless we experience it first. :)
 
Wannabe Yogi

Wannabe Yogi

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Madhuri said:
Same, I would have thought maybe for Kali worshippers but not Durga. But I'm not completely familiar with some of those sects.
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Some Tantric's do this type of thing. It is the only way some orthodox folks will ever eat meat. I don't see it as an act to please God. But, more of a concrete act of the symbolic concept of sacrificing the ego to God.

I am a vegetarian so I can ignore this type of thing.

At least people who hunt and or sacrifice like this are taking responsablity for the death of the animal. Buying meat in a supermarket allows the consumer to be in much more denial about the suffering of animals when used as a food source.
 
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Azakel

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Seyorni said:
Theophagy!?:eek:
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It's one of my favorite pass-times ^_^

Wannabe Yogi said:
I will say this for the whole thing at least people who hunt and or sacrifice like this are taking responsablity for the death of the animal. Buying meat in a supermarket allows the consumer to be in much more denial about the suffering in the killing of animals as a food source.
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I agree, I prefer to hunt, but it's not always easy to do(at lest for me now).
I've been to a slaughterhouse, and kind of amazed I still eat meat.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Azakel said:
It's one of my favorite pass-times ^_^


I agree, I prefer to hunt, but it's not always easy to do(at lest for me now).
I've been to a slaughterhouse, and kind of amazed I still eat meat.
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Surprises me, too. I saw a show where kids were taken to a farm (and not even a slaughterhouse) to see where meat came from. One of them said he wanted to become a vegetarian (since some vegetarians eat eggs, fish, chicken, milk and milk products and wear leather and wool, then he would have thought to become a vegan instead).
 
Azakel

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
ChristineES said:
Surprises me, too. I saw a show where kids were taken to a farm (and not even a slaughterhouse) to see where meat came from. One of them said he wanted to become a vegetarian (since some vegetarians eat eggs, fish, chicken, milk and milk products and wear leather and wool, then he would have thought to become a vegan instead).
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We have feed lots around her and to get to the Vet I have to drive by one, not pretty and smells horrible. If I have to buy meat I prefer to buy from small free range farms. Though I bet the kill them the same way bigger ones do(not sure).
 
Madhuri

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Onkarah said:
Hi ChristineES
But the odd thing is, if you love God, then any sacrifice for God has more value than a meal in a restaurant. Would any theists agree or not with that idea?
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I think that God values our Love, not necessarily our actions. We don't need to make public displays to prove our love, or as many seem to do, follow a tradition and hope for personal gain (like many who did and do perform austerity in the hopes of gaining benedictions from the gods). This is also why meditation is so prominent in Hinduism- because our relationship and love comes from within.

So from that perspective, it seems our intentions are what hold value, but in all seriousness people who are killing goats are just accumulating more karma, not advancing spiritually.
 
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Onkara

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Madhuri said:
I think that God values our Love, not necessarily our actions. We don't need to make public displays to prove our love, or as many seem to do, follow a tradition and hope for personal gain (like many who did and do perform austerity in the hopes of gaining benedictions from the gods). This is also why meditation is so prominent in Hinduism- because our relationship and love comes from within.

So from that perspective, it seems our intentions are what hold value, but in all seriousness people who are killing goats are just accumulating more karma, not advancing spiritually.
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Well said, you have captured some core principals in few words.
 
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