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Hindu Sculptures

Farrukh

Active Member
i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
In Hinduism, the statue is not the God. The statue either represents the God and is symbolic ... or is a conduit for which the God's vibration can use, just like copper is a conduit for electricity.

No Hindu (as far as I know) thinks the stone or metal image is the God. That idea is one that is projected onto us from people outside of Hinduism.
 

Farrukh

Active Member
In Hinduism, the statue is not the God. The statue either represents the God and is symbolic ... or is a conduit for which the God's vibration can use, just like copper is a conduit for electricity.

statue is not the God, statue represent the God. what language is that?
 

Makaranda

Active Member
The God is invoked through the statue, but the statue itself is not worshiped. It is not difficult to comprehend. God is represented in many different ways and in many different forms in Hinduism, according the devotee's attraction and preference. For many Hindus, including myself, God is ultimately formless and without anthropomorphic/physical attributes such as a body, but for the sake of expressing my devotion outwardly, I also use murtis (statues) to represent Him.

i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands?

They don't, you misunderstand.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
statue is not the God, statue represent the God. what language is that?

It's called English. It's pretty trendy actually, you should look that up.

What Vinayaka mean is that the statue is not the living God.

You see this ?
Lleyn_sheep.jpg


It's the picture of a sheep. That doesn't mean this picture is a real sheep living inside your computer's screen right now.

Another example. you say

statue is not the God, statue represent the God.

im-469-statue-de-la-liberte-new-york.jpg


This is the statue of liberty. This statue represent metaphorically freedom. It is not freedom incarnate.

statue is not freedom, statue represent freedom.



Is it better ?
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
Bending five times at ground won't solve either.


I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.
So what??
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Farrukh, Islam and Hinduism are about as far apart as we can get in comparative religion. There has been a long history of conflict, both in philosophy, and in real life, unfortunately.

I think that for all involved, rather than rehash all of this stuff, it is better to just agree to disagree. "you do your thing, and I'll do my thing.' on both sides. This is better in the long run.

If you seriously want to learn about why Hindus believe the way they do for the sake of your own expansion of knowledge rather than to find reasons to argue, there are lots of on-line resources. The same is true for any Hindu who wishes to learn more about Islam.
 

Farrukh

Active Member
Farrukh, Islam and Hinduism are about as far apart as we can get in comparative religion. There has been a long history of conflict, both in philosophy, and in real life, unfortunately.

I think that for all involved, rather than rehash all of this stuff, it is better to just agree to disagree. "you do your thing, and I'll do my thing.' on both sides. This is better in the long run.

If you seriously want to learn about why Hindus believe the way they do for the sake of your own expansion of knowledge rather than to find reasons to argue, there are lots of on-line resources. The same is true for any Hindu who wishes to learn more about Islam.

thank you, I appreciate your suggestion.
 

ratikala

Istha gosthi
namaskaram Farrukh :namaste

I appologise for the rudeness of some of my fellow hindus ...apart from Makaranda who gave a polite and beautifull explanation ....
quote Makaranda ...

The God is invoked through the statue, but the statue itself is not worshiped. It is not difficult to comprehend. God is represented in many different ways and in many different forms in Hinduism, according the devotee's attraction and preference. For many Hindus, including myself, God is ultimately formless and without anthropomorphic/physical attributes such as a body, but for the sake of expressing my devotion outwardly, I also use murtis (statues) to represent Him.
as you probaby know the Hindu faith is very broad some beleive God to be formless others beleive God to have his own personal form ...and that he may take form as he wishes ... a Vaisnava (devotee of Visnu)beleives that God has a nature which is all pervasive , that he is present all around us , ... we ask him to take form for our benifit as it is very difficult for us to understand him in his all pervasive form as it is beyond our limeted comprehension ... this is how it comes about that hindus worship different forms as each seeks a form which they can understand and relate to .


i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.

I will explain from the perspective of my tradition ...

when a murti is made it is like making a hollow vessel which represents one aspect of that supreme gods being , when this Murti is made it must be made to a very specific set of rules which tell you how this God should look , what position he must be standing in how he should hold his hands , what particular things he must wear or hold . all these things are very important when the murti is finished it will be brought to the temple and go through a proces of instalation where upon prayers are made to purify the place and to invite the god to enter into this Murti form especialy so that we may legitimately worship him in this form .

Vaisnavas do belive that god resides within this image and embues this image with his divine energy , because we belive that god is nondifferent from his name and his form ,
however we do not make this murti or ask god to come to reside here so that we can ask him to solve our problems , we ask him to reside here so that we may serve him and pay homage to him .

a Vaisnava will tell you that the more love and devotion is shown to a murti the stronger the presence of god is within that murti , as god will want to remain there to receive our devotions , and inturn he will bestow his blessings .

this is an extremely simplified explanation , but I hope that it helps your understanging :namaste
 

Maya3

Well-Known Member
The God is invoked through the statue, but the statue itself is not worshiped. It is not difficult to comprehend. God is represented in many different ways and in many different forms in Hinduism, according the devotee's attraction and preference. For many Hindus, including myself, God is ultimately formless and without anthropomorphic/physical attributes such as a body, but for the sake of expressing my devotion outwardly, I also use murtis (statues) to represent Him.



They don't, you misunderstand.

This.

Maya
 

Farrukh

Active Member
I never like the idea of dividing people in upper and lower classes, it is against moral values. Educated people who have little sense of humanity will never accept this Shudras and outcastes classification.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I never like the idea of dividing people in upper and lower classes, it is against moral values. Educated people who have little sense of humanity will never accept this Shudras and outcastes classification.

What does the South
Asian caste system -
a socio-cultural related
phenomenon - have to
do with the OP?​
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I never like the idea of dividing people in upper and lower classes, it is against moral values. Educated people who have little sense of humanity will never accept this Shudras and outcastes classification.

Class division has existed within most societies.
I'm not sure what the problem with Shudras is, but the culture of outcastes is terrible. It should never have been accepted into Indian culture, and people should not confuse that culture with Hinduism.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
What does the South
Asian caste system -
a socio-cultural related
phenomenon - have to
do with the OP?​

Come on bro, he was owned on the sculpture thing and can't bash us on how stupid we are to to think mud is all powerful almighty god. So he's desperately bringing out of nowhere another bash subject.

"Is there a shhep in Hindus members of RF's computer...? Scandalo.."
"There is no sheep in our computer. It's a common miconception, hope it helped you"
"....."
"So... uh.. hope it answered your question ?"
"Yo hindu mama's soooo faaaaat......!!"
"....ok."



sheep in your computer...male sheep...computer ram
:run:

You
Are
A GENIUS
sir
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I never like the idea of dividing people in upper and lower classes, it is against moral values. Educated people who have little sense of humanity will never accept this Shudras and outcastes classification.
Do you mean to say that there is no classification among Muslims? Kindly read Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and that is not just in South Asia.
"Last year I was a Julaha (weaver); this year a Shaikh; and next year if the harvest be good, I shall be a Sayyid."
 
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Tumah

Veteran Member
i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.

I just want to point out that this story's Jewish origin predates your prophet.
 

Sb1995

Om Sai Ram
i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.

just wondering how can people make a god named allah for themselves? like I can make a name and make a god and that will solve my problems? then I can get my little brother to make a story about a man named muhammad and say he did a bunch of fairy tale stories. then i can get my sister to write a book called the quaran and make up funny stories there also. then we can go outside and bend on the floor 5 times a day to exercise our legs and back muscles
 
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