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Hinduism: Ask your Questions

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Sui,
It is not a concept at all.
It is an understanding in Sanatan Dharma.
Sanatan Dharma is an open ended path/way and is therefore called the ETERNAL way.
Mind researchers or meditators have found food to be of three kinds. Sattvic, Rajasic and Tamasic. Meaning that the food that we eat controls our body and mind senses.
Objective of life being to reunite with the WHOLE or God /etc. it is important that the body and mind are in harmony and if there is disharmony our objectives gets diluted and so if we eat food which drives our energies low down to the lower instincts we are unable to harmonise our body-mind.
Sattivic food gives us enough to maintain the body needs to the level it remains calm which are vegetarian in nature. Meat eating is Rajasic as it heats up the body and drives the mind towards sex and physical violence. tamasic food are the ones where the body goes to sleep and the body-mind is in total disharmony.
Sanatan Dharma leaves everyone to decide without any firm diktats about the type of food one should eat by just mentioning the alternatives that happens when a person does an act. The choice is left to individuals.
Friend Sui, it is your life, and your karma both past and present which decides the future.
You may take a course to finsih all past karmas and not increase ones that keeps the karma balance for any future or keep going unconsciously till through the evolutionary process it gets completed on its own.
Love & rgds
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
In any case, I have several questions, although I'll stick with one for the moment. It is based on something you mentioned in a previous post, that Hindus shouldn't eat animals so as to respect life and to minimize negative karma. I find this highly respectable, though I am curious: since Hinduism recognizes the Supreme Being as one with the universe and therefore is All-Aware, wouldn't this Being be fully knowledgeable of human nature? Why should we accumulate negative karma if the need for food is just something we cannot control?

Hi Sui,

Thank you for your question. I think to answer this question I need to explain a key concept of Hindu humanist philosophy. I think you will be particularly interested in neo-humanism propounded by Prabhat Sarkar, one of the greatest Indian philosophers of the 20th century. The idea is, that humans beings are not in a state of being, but in a state of becoming . We are becoming human rather than being human and life is lived to be human. A person is not necessarily human if they are in a human body, for example certain humans beings born in animalistic environments become more animal-like than human, such as feral children. I am sure you are aware of many humans who are savage, again this is because of the predomiance of the animal aspect in them.

Hindus believe in evolution and it believed that the human organism has evolved through 8,400,000 life forms. Thus in our previous lifes we have been animals and aspects of us today are still animal, but the animal aspect within humans is much less than animals, which is why we incarnate in a human body. So what distinguishes us from animals? Rationality, creativity and spirituality. The human organism is a physical-psycho-spiritual being, as Sarkar calls it. It is capable of rational thought, discriminating between right and wrong, creativity, science, art and religion. This is what imparts the human dimension to humaness. The human organism is much less a creature of instinct than animals, it has free will, and once it attains free will its evolution is decided by its actions. It becomes bound by karma as soon as it identifies itself as a conscious being, "I" and doer of its actions(the notion of how free its actions are is a complex matter discussed in Hindu Psychology). If it accures negative karma it will regress in its evolution, and if it accures positive karma, it will progress in its evolution. Hindusim recognises the following levels of human evolution:


SENTIMENTAL/EMOTIONAL: This is similar to the animal instinctual level, its when humans act from a gut-instinctual level and emotionally to circumstances.

INTELLECTUAL: When a human acts from a rational capacity, using their intellect to measure and evaluate actions

CREATIVE: When the human acts from an artistic capacity, using poetry, music and art to express greater truths about reality. This is the point where the intellect grows up and begins to see that reality is not made up of distinct things, but interconnected things.

INTUITION: When the human acts from wisdom itself. It no longer has to think between right and wrong, it naturally just does what is right.

DEVOTION: When human acts from pure love and god itself. At this level there is no longer a separation between the human and god, they become part of each other, merged into each other, every action of that human becomes imbued with divinity. They see this entire universe, including themselves as being an expression of that single loving consciousness. There is no longer separation.

Hinduism identifies with the highest level of humanity which is the state of no separation. This comes with the understanding that any harm we inflict on anything within our universe is really just harming us, all the karmas return to us. But the contradiction is that at our lower stage in our evolution we have to harm to live, it is a necessary evil, thus Hinduism says take the minimal amount of evil in life. In regards to diet that means vegetarianism. Plants are at the lowest level of development of life and they are incapable of feeling pain in the same way a higher developed life form(humans and animals) thus eating plants is fine.

It is explictly said in Yoga that one cannot progress spiritually if they continue to eat animals, in fact on the contrary they will regress spiritually. The kind of propensity(vritti) that leads to one desiring meat stems from the animal aspect of our nature, the lower level of our evolution, if we overemphasise that we will regress back into our animal nature. This is why vegetarianism is insisted upon in Hinduism.
 
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rojse

RF Addict
I am surprised at the enormous amount of disinterest in this religion with the non-Indian members(Even in the Hinduism forum the majority of posters are of Indian origin) and yet it's the third largest religion in the world and one of the oldest, if not the oldest religion in the world.

I am sure there must be some questions about Hinduism that people may want to ask. I invite people of all religions, especially Christians and Muslims to ask me questions on Hinduism. Anything you want to know.

It benefits us both. You get to learn about Hinduism and I get to sharpen my answering skills :D

Just out of left field...

If you, Suraj, or any other Hindu has read "Lord of Light", by Roger Zelazny, how close are the events depicted in the story to actual Hindu mythology? As far as I know, the names are correct, but is this where the similarity ends or not? And are the excerpts from the stories at the start of each chapter Hindu stories about religion or not? Frubals are on offer.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
'nother question!

What do the majority of Hindus think of "prophets" (for lack of a better word) of other religions, for example, Moses, Jesus, Buddha (arguably), and maybe even Muhammad and the Jain tirthankaras?

For Buddha and the tirthankaras I suppose it will be easier to answer, but for the Abrahamic prophets and how far away their school of thoughts are from Hinduism (they are often more of a "My God is right, you idol worshipper! You will be condemned!" kind, in brief I guess :D) - are they false prophets? Are they, nonetheless, prophets, but hodling a much stricter and narrower view? Are they following asuras?

Your thoughts?
Peace
Odion
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
Rojse,

I will leave that question to another person whose read it :D

Odion,

Yeah, you are right it much easier to answer for Buddhists and Jains. Most Hindus consider them a part of them. Abrahmic religions do not enjoy the same level of acceptance by Hindus, but there are many Hindus who respect Jesus and some Hindus who accept him and worship him. In Islam few Hindus know about the teachings about Mohammed, but recognise Allah as another name for god and respect Sufi saints. In India, the religious pluralism is encouraged, thus on the whole Hindus are very tolerant and open to other religions.

Some of this is due to ignorance of the teachings of Abrahmic religions. Not many would know for example that Islam preaches hatred against idol worshipping, and obviously Hindus would not think well of this. Some Christians who preach that non-Christians are going to hell will again not be well thought of. The relationship between Hinduism and Abrahmic religions can be one-sided. A Hindu will generally be very open to these religions and consider them just as valid as their own religion, often expressing great respect for their scriptures and founders, but this is seldom reciprocated by the Abrahmic adherents. I just remember a recent conversaion with a Christian friend who telling me that he wanted to spread the message of Jesus Christ, and I was agreeing with them, honouring his prophet. I told him we Hindus believed in more or less the same message. But as soon as I mentioned "same" he could not abide it - "Nobody is like Jesus, what you believe in is false" but the irony was the gist of what he was saying about spreading love and compassion, loving god, praying was not unlike what countless Hindu saints have said. I asked him, "How could it be that they are false when they are saying the same things you highlighted about Jesus" He responded, "It's the other things they say" thus he was adamant on seeing differences than similarities. I guess that generally describes the difference between Hindu and Abrahmic attitude. A Hindu will look for similarities and common grounds, and an Abrahmic adherent will look for differences.
 
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ok i want to know this: can global warming be stopped in that way? it purifies the air, right, so cant it be used for that purpose, to reduce CO2.
or is that a different thing, it purifies the air spiritually instead of physically ( i hope you understand what i'm mean by that)
By burning it releases Co2. So reducing Co2 is impossible.
 
'nother question!

What do the majority of Hindus think of "prophets" (for lack of a better word) of other religions, for example, Moses, Jesus, Buddha (arguably), and maybe even Muhammad and the Jain tirthankaras?

For Buddha and the tirthankaras I suppose it will be easier to answer, but for the Abrahamic prophets and how far away their school of thoughts are from Hinduism (they are often more of a "My God is right, you idol worshipper! You will be condemned!" kind, in brief I guess :D) - are they false prophets? Are they, nonetheless, prophets, but hodling a much stricter and narrower view? Are they following asuras?

Your thoughts?
Peace
Odion

Hinduism has never a negative vibe to spread about prophets. While it may not be our religious belief, since Hinduism has no set doctrine, it does not discourage one from following/learning from a prophet.

Hinduism has not ever claimed to be the one and only set path to God. They say with a devoted heart, and plenty of love for God, you can reach him/her with any religion.

While i may not wholly agree with this, i believe this is the way to think, believe you are right and everyone else is wrong gets society nowhere.
 
Just out of left field...

If you, Suraj, or any other Hindu has read "Lord of Light", by Roger Zelazny, how close are the events depicted in the story to actual Hindu mythology? As far as I know, the names are correct, but is this where the similarity ends or not? And are the excerpts from the stories at the start of each chapter Hindu stories about religion or not? Frubals are on offer.

I read it years ago before I became a Hindu. It has some real Hindu myths twisted into a science fiction novel. Some of the stories are Hindu and some are Buddhist. Other parts are just made up. Thats the best I can do.
 
Rojse,

The relationship between Hinduism and Abrahmic religions can be one-sided. A Hindu will generally be very open to these religions and consider them just as valid as their own religion, often expressing great respect for their scriptures and founders, but this is seldom reciprocated by the Abrahmic adherents.

This is true in most cases. The Quakers are one christian group that I find to be very open to Hinduism. They have many made great mystics and have suffered a lot because of there mystic views.
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
By burning it releases Co2. So reducing Co2 is impossible.

Yes, what Don said. CO2 is not toxic, it is released into air by the burning of wood and food and by all breathing things(take in oxygen, give out Co2) Global warming has been caused by the excessive production of Co2 by factories, cars etc - the Co2 gas rises into the atmosphere and forms a blanket trapping the sun's rays causing a greenhouse effect. Some Co2 is not bad, because it keeps the planet warm, but too much leads to a significant rise in temperature, causing climate change.

The fire-sacrifice adds as much Co2 to the atmosphere as adding a cup full of water to the ocean adds.

The fire-sacrifice is used for the purpose of air-purification, destroying air-born germs. Some interesting scientific studies have been conducted on this by Indian scientists.

BACTERIOSTATIC EFFECT:
In a series of experiments conducted by a group of microbiologists & pathologists under the guidance of Dr A.G. Mondkar and Shri.Y.B. Sohoni the behaviour of microflora was studied in the atmosphere generated by Agnihotra. It was observed that the Agnihotra atmosphere was markedly bacteriostatic. In it more than 96% growth of bacteria was inhibited. Agnihotra atmosphere acted as a shield in which bacteria, especially the pathogenic types were not allowed to grow. In another set of trials conducted in the polluted slums, similar results were noted. It was observed that there is definite reduction in aerial micro flora after performing Agnihotra.

Agnihotra ash as fertilizer:

Agnihotra ash and its resultant atmosphere is being employed as useful in Ecological-Farming practices. Hundreds of farmers are regularly practicing Agnihotra farming methods.

The fruits, vegetables and grains grown by this method are qualitatively better in texture, taste and size as compared to controlled farms where regular use of pesticides and fertilizers is done. Agnihotra atmosphere induces rapid seed germination. Agnihotra ash is an effective fertilizer and helps in releasing soluble phosphate from the soil.

AGNIHOTRA-Study Findings#

Some international studies: Nova Magazine - Australia's Holistic Journal
 
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Sui

Member
As a side note, I do not believe it's wise to make generalizations about anyone or anything, especially when speaking of something as personal as religion. Making such assumptions and generalizations is exactly how we all end up focusing on differences instead of similarities.

Back on subject, obrigada LuisDantas. And thank you both zenzero and Suraj for such detailed, informative explanations. You're right, I'm quite interested in what Prabhat Sarkar has to say. Perhaps I will look more into it. So, this leads to my next questions. If I understand correctly, good deeds lead the way to a higher spiritual existence. Is this how one might purify themselves from the lesser, more animalistic impulses such as uncontrolled lust and anger? Is there a deity or being of any sort that attempts to hinder such spiritual progress?
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
If I understand correctly, good deeds lead the way to a higher spiritual existence. Is this how one might purify themselves from the lesser, more animalistic impulses such as uncontrolled lust and anger? Is there a deity or being of any sort that attempts to hinder such spiritual progress?

Yes good deeds is how one purifies oneself to reach spiritual transcendence. However, how does one know what is a good deed and what is a bad deed? The closer one is connected to their conscience, the greater their deeds. As explained earlier people who have reached the devotional level of their evolution, do not need to have to act from the intellect on what is right and wrong, they automatically do what is right, because they act from being. There is divinity in everything they do. Such people are often born like this. Many of the great Hindu saints and spiritual leaders were born with such divinity, and interestingly from a very young age they have very strong spiritual predelictions and a strong desire to renounce the world and live a spiritual life. Many of the Bhakti saints were like this.

Although very subjective, a good measure of your own spiritual evolution is the periphery of your love and your ability to recognise the unreality of the world. This world is a plane of suffering, it pales to insignificance before our real home with that divine and loving being. Nothing in this world can satisfy our spiritual yearning, even the greatests of pleasures in this world become pain. The enlightened sage recognises this world for what it is a cage/a prison, and sees no difference between pain and pleasure, for a cage made of gold or of iron is still a cage. The reality of this world is so fundamentally against our real nature. It is limiting, we are the limitless; it is non-permenant, we are the permenent; it is imperfect, we are the perfect; it is evil and we are the divine. The core of our being feels just how painful this existence is and this is constantly struggling against it. That is what evolution is a struggle against the world.

Your other question is whether there is a deity or being preventing us from reaching spiritual heights? I assume you are alluding to a satan/devil like figure. In Hinduism we believe everything is divine, so the notion of there being anything which is evil is a contradiction and thus we reject that any evil being exists. So how do we explain evil? We consider evil to be unreal and illusory, which arises from ignorance of our true nature. Just as darkness is the absence of light, likewise evil is the absence of good, it has no independent existence, it only exists in relation to good.

When the infinite and trascendent being appears to becomes immanent it appears to become many individual units(souls) which no longer possess the attributes of infinity, unity and perfection, they become the complete opposite of it, finite, separate, imperfect. This leads to the formation of Ahankara or ego, the part of our personality that says "I am x" and the soul becomes misidentified with the ego and the world. It does not recognise unity, it recognises diversity and its survival(self-preservation) becomes the most important value to it. But, at the heart of the soul is the fundamental contradiction that its current existence is unreal, relational on the opposite of it(god) and this becomes the source of pain. The pain forces the soul to progress. The pain is quite literally its conscience(or god) expressing itself through desire. The source of desire all desire is indeed spiritual transcendence. The ego fights against the conscience to preserve its existence, but ultimately is always defeated. The further one progresses the more devious the ego becomes. It constantly tries to tempt the soul, firing with all kinds of ammunition, and invariably the soul falls to the temptation, but with experience overcomes it and progresses.

The ego may sound like Satan/devil, but there are some very key differences between the Hindu philosophy of ego and the Abrahmic theology of Satan.

1. The ego is inert, it has no life of its own, it is rather a function of the laws of nature.

2. It ego is not evil at all, but rather it a means of bapitism or purification of the soul. It provides the impetus for the soul to progress, without it, the soul would have no reason to progress. There really is no such thing as evil in god's universe, evil is just a label we create.

3. It is not problematic. In the Abrahmic theology is built in the assumption that what we identify to be self is the soul, and what causes evil is some external and demonic entity. Thus what happens its adherents believe that themselves selves are good, and all bad, is just the work of some external thing. This results in preserving what we think to be ourselves or falling for the greatest trick of the ego, "convincing you it does not exist" thus many Abrahmic adherents become institutionalized by their religion and find it very difficult to think outside of the box nor are aware the box exists.

On the other hand, Hindus and Buddhists who believe in ego as the source of evil, are both aware of the box and what is outside of the box. They know that anything they know to be self is just another trick of the ego, and constantly struggle against it. This means that is more difficult for them to be institutionalised by any religion or dogma. They are constantly open to contradiction.

It is not just those who a part of the Abrahmic religions that are prone to being boxed in, but those born into Western culture are prone to it, especially Western scientists. Today, Western culture is a very egoistic culture, and because it succumbs to ego, it stunts its own progress. The kind of false lives we live today is really the manifestation of ego on a global scale, keeping everybody boxed in a false consciousness. The more you practice breaking the pattern which the ego tries to impose on you, the more you will weaken its effect on you, and the light of your conscience will shine ever brighter.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You seem to have ignored what I said in my post. I said that they are not movements against Hinduism, they are movements within Hinduism. Just as Catholocism and Protestantism are movements within Christianity.

That's a stretch. It just doesn't happen quite that way with Dharmic religions.

It would be more accurate to say that the Bahai Faith is a sect of Islam than to claim that Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism are part of Hinduism. All three faiths inherit some concepts from Hinduism, but have paths of their own. Hinduism itself is defined more by its terminology than by any real common doctrine, and most Buddhist schools reinvented even their terminology during the centuries.

As I said there has never been a historical conflict between Buddhists and Hindus and Sikhs and Hindus. These movements occured in reaction to social-political circumstances, as opposed to rejection of Hinduism. If they had rejected them they wouldn't have embraced so many of its beliefs and concepts.

That's not at all an accurate gauging method, however, for the reasons mentioned above.

What all Dharmic religions DO have in common aren't the beliefs from Hinduism. It's the terminology (to a point) and, most important of all, the focus on the legitimacy of exercising one's own discerniment and virtue. Be it by one or several of the Yogas, directly by one's own practice, or by respectful disciplehood under a qualified Guru, all of them call upon us to do our best; to learn from others; and to care for what we leave for others. It's a very positive, pro-active approach that makes them appeal to me far more than the Abrahamic faiths. The doctrine is not a set of instructions that dictates what we should do, but rather a challenge that we must live and make our own truth, to the point of actually taking responsibility for it.
 

Sui

Member
Thank you again Suraj. I didn't expect such details, but the effort is very much appreciated. Hinduism is a bit clearer for me now. I'll try and come back if I think of any more good questions.

You're welcome. It's nice to see that you did some research :)
Well, I'm a big admirer of Portuguese :D
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
It would be more accurate to say that the Bahai Faith is a sect of Islam than to claim that Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism are part of Hinduism. All three faiths inherit some concepts from Hinduism, but have paths of their own. Hinduism itself is defined more by its terminology than by any real common doctrine, and most Buddhist schools reinvented even their terminology during the centuries.

The notion of difference rests on the extent of difference and the type of difference. Christianity and Judaism are different religions because they have different beliefs, but the type is the same Abrahmic. We can historically trace the geneology of the beliefs, myths, philosophy and practices of Christianity to Judaism.

Likewise, we can trace the beliefs, myths and practices of Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism to HInduism. The question is just how different are these religions from one another. Are they as different as the Abrahmic religions? No they are not. The Abrahmic religions are based on personity worship, they have a religious founders, and have dualistic beliefs and practices. On the other hand, dharmic religions are based on the notion of eternal law, universal beliefs and monistic and mystical beliefs which pretty much pervade all Dharmic religions.

In Abrahmic religions the differences are strong, because each personality lays a different canon, they are the arbiter of it and thus pluralism does not come naturally. In contrast in Dharmic religions the differences are weak, because they are based on particular philosophy of dharma, and differences emerge only in various philosophical perspectives. Thus it is the same thing, but different angles.

Buddhism and Jainism definitely have appreciably different angles, and I have never denied this, but they are still very much a part of the dharma religion. It subscribes to very much everything Hinduism postulates: maya/samsara, yoga, karma and reincarnation, guru-shishya tradition, vegetarianism, rationalism, devas, pluralism. Your claim that the Bahai's have more in common with Islam than Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism is made in complete ignorance of the differences between the Bahai's and Islam and the similarities between Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism. The only similarity between Bahai and Islam is the founder was a Muslim, there are no other similarities.

To deny the heritage of the dharmic religion i.e., hinduism is just dishonesty, nothing else. To continue to use its beliefs and practices without crediting it is plagarism. Even today many take different perspectives on previous works, but they always credit the previous work, and if they don't it is called plagiarism.

What all Dharmic religions DO have in common aren't the beliefs from Hinduism. It's the terminology (to a point)

To say that is like saying the newtonian mechanical equations that are used in the general theory of relativity are just terminology. Of course we know that is false, Einstein does not just borrow terms, he borrows Newtons theories and methods. Likewise, Buddhism et al do not just borrow terms, they borrow entire theories and methods. The differences come from how they interpret it, but such is very much encouraged in Hinduism, except Buddhism and Jainism take a completely different view which is not compatible with Hinduism, hence why they are recognised as different religions. Sikhism, on the other hand, takes the same view as Hinduism.
 
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Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
Herushura,

The notion of cosmic egg comes from the word Brahmanada which is the sanskrit word for all of creation. It is conjunction of brhi(expanding) and anda(egg) and means expanding universe. It is often depicted in Puranic mythology as a golden or cosmic egg, which splits open at creation. It is derived from the Vedic Hiryanagarbh(cosmic or golden womb) within which the brahmanada is in an unmanifest and embroyic form. At creation the universe comes into being and expands outwards in all directions, containing within it in seed form everything that will later form in the universe(stars, planets, organisms etc) It is basically the big-bang theory. However, with a key difference, Hindus believe that creation is only an appearance and through knowledge we can realise that this creation hasn't actually taken place and we are still immersed in Hiryanagarbh. This view is not universally accepted by all Hindu schools though, the Dvatia(dualist) school believe the act of creation is real.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Likewise, we can trace the beliefs, myths and practices of Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism to HInduism. The question is just how different are these religions from one another. Are they as different as the Abrahmic religions? No they are not.

Actually, IMNSHO Buddhism is far more varied internally than the Abrahamic faiths are among themselves. Hinduism even more so.

The Abrahmic religions are based on personity worship, they have a religious founders, and have dualistic beliefs and practices.

Fair enough, if perhaps a bit on the simplistic side.

On the other hand, dharmic religions are based on the notion of eternal law, universal beliefs and monistic and mystical beliefs which pretty much pervade all Dharmic religions.

Sorry, I must strongly disagree. What universal beliefs are there to speak of in the Dharmic religions? Quite a few Buddhists are not very mystical at all. It's all about balancing personal belief with personal stance, Suraj.

In Abrahmic religions the differences are strong, because each personality lays a different canon, they are the arbiter of it and thus pluralism does not come naturally. In contrast in Dharmic religions the differences are weak, because they are based on particular philosophy of dharma, and differences emerge only in various philosophical perspectives. Thus it is the same thing, but different angles.

Suffice it to say, your understanding of what Dharma is is very much at odds with mine.

Buddhism and Jainism definitely have appreciably different angles, and I have never denied this, but they are still very much a part of the dharma religion. It subscribes to very much everything Hinduism postulates: maya/samsara, yoga, karma and reincarnation,

Uh? We Buddhists are explicitly non-reincarnationists, Suraj.

guru-shishya tradition,

Which is subverted in much, if not most, of Buddhism.

vegetarianism,

Again, optional at best in much of Buddhism.

rationalism, devas,

Devas are explicitly allegorical in Buddhism, and often completely absent. Rationalism, alas, isn't found nearly as often as it should in any religion.

pluralism. Your claim that the Bahai's have more in common with Islam than Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism is made in complete ignorance of the differences between the Bahai's and Islam and the similarities between Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism.

Thank you very much. I also think of you as ignorant, if it makes any difference. Actually, at times I wonder if you mean what you say. So often you end up being ludicrously presumptous.

The only similarity between Bahai and Islam is the founder was a Muslim, there are no other similarities.

THEY sure think otherwise, you know. And with good reason.

To deny the heritage of the dharmic religion i.e., hinduism is just dishonesty, nothing else.

It would be, yes. As is falsely augmenting it for propaganda purposes, you know.

To continue to use its beliefs and practices without crediting it is plagarism.

Uh? There is no denying the inheritance from Hinduism in Buddhism. But the differences in belief and practice are plain for everyone to see, although the lack of uniformity in both faiths confounds the case somewhat.

(...) To say that is like saying the newtonian mechanical equations that are used in the general theory of relativity are just terminology. Of course we know that is false, Einstein does not just borrow terms, he borrows Newtons theories and methods. Likewise, Buddhism et al do not just borrow terms, they borrow entire theories and methods.

And reject lots of it, to the point of actually forgetting about them as they develop their own doctrines. Truth be told, so do various segments of Hinduism itself, to a lesser degree.

Either you never did good research about Buddhism (and the Bahai Faith, for that matter) or you just refuse to acknowledge the facts. Either way, you really ought to be more careful about what you state, Suraj.

The differences come from how they interpret it, but such is very much encouraged in Hinduism, except Buddhism and Jainism take a completely different view which is not compatible with Hinduism, hence why they are recognised as different religions. Sikhism, on the other hand, takes the same view as Hinduism.

Therefore completely negating your previous claim that the Abrahamic faiths are more different between them than the Dharmic faiths. Make up your mind.
 

Surya Deva

Well-Known Member
Luis,

I will gladly debate the similarities of Hinduism and Buddhism with you, but lets do so in another thread and you may create it. I will say this much, however, you are not exactly representative of Buddhism, perhaps you first need to decide whether you are a Buddhist, Atheist or Agnostic, before we can debate.

You deny many beliefs and practices of Buddhism which hard buddhists accept. I think as I said earlier, and some others, you are holding onto a rather distorted and romanticised version of Buddhism which is at conflict with traditional Buddhism itself. I think you would benefit from the anekantavada philosophy of Jainism :)
 
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