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Hitchen's Challange

robocop (actually)

robocop (actually)

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Policy said:
I am more moral than the being depicted in any and all of those tomes.



Ok. Assuming that there is a god that made this universe ,,, No. Why would I?

I might go to hear what they have to say, and to investigate their nature. But why would I go to a non-human for guidance? I would not go to an intelligent lion for guidance either. But if I had to choose between a super-smart god, and a smart lion, I would choose the smart lion every time.

Unless god is a member of a technologically-inclined social species that cares for its young in small family units. Then I might ask for notes.
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Weird.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Audie said:
Trained prophets, and all other pseudo religions.
You sure thats what you mean to say?

Is the flood account categorically identified
as non literal?
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I didn't understand your 1st remark?

Among the majority of evangelicals and fundamentalists, I would think yes, it's to be taken literally. I do, and have seen scientists attempt to prove it's veracity also. So, yes, there is a demography that accepts it historicity, and I believe that that view is held by the majority of conservative Christians.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
mikkel_the_dane said:
Well, as long as you don't tell me how I have to do God I will do my salvation as me and leave you to yours. But I doubt that you can separate the 2 and you will claim that I can only be saved if I do as you believe.
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Obviously, ....I didn't make up, first, the need for salvation, and two, the means to attain it. It's universal.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
DNB said:
I didn't understand your 1st remark?

Among the majority of evangelicals and fundamentalists, I would think yes, it's to be taken literally. I do, and have seen scientists attempt to prove it's veracity also. So, yes, there is a demography that accepts it historicity, and I believe that that view is held by the majority of conservative Christians.
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"... other pseudo religions " means yours is too.
Just for clarity.

Anyone thinking there was a world wide flood is in a poor position to claim any wisdom ,or understanding of the world.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
DNB said:
Earth to SkepticThinker, earth to SkepticThinker, come in SkepticThinker? Houston, I think we have a problem!
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No prob for me to follow even tho its not my
conversstion.
For those who think scrip is as " pertinent and valid" as it was 3500 y.a., its a valid question.

Nothing there to confuse anyone.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Audie said:
"... other pseudo religions " means yours is too.
Just for clarity.

Anyone thinking there was a world wide flood is in a poor position to claim any wisdom ,or understanding of the world.
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Nope, it's the atheists who are incapable of smelling the coffee.
Just for the record, although I'm probably wasting my time here, no wise person believes in miraculous events simply for the supernatural aspect of them. It is on the grounds as to why such occurrences took place, is what compels the insightful to believe in such phenomena. Man has defied God from the beginning of time, claiming to believe in Him but defaming, and showing nothing but contempt for Him in all their actions. Despite the fact that He gave us the opportunity for life and love, and has only asked that we love one another - nothing burdensome or onerous.

We deserved the flood, and it is only by His mercy that He even spared the eight people of Noah's family.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Audie said:
No prob for me to follow even tho its not my
conversstion.
For those who think scrip is as " pertinent and valid" as it was 3500 y.a., its a valid question.

Nothing there to confuse anyone.
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...then why are you confused?
Does believing in the entirety of Scripture, which includes the Garden of Eden, the Noahic covenant, the Abrahamic covenant which included circumcision, the Levitical Law, the Davidic promise, and the advent of Christ, necessitate that I believe in owning slaves. Or, as SkepticThinker so bizarrely asserted, that i currently own slaves.

And yet, you are confused by my response to him???
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
DNB said:
...then why are you confused?
Does believing in the entirety of Scripture, which includes the Garden of Eden, the Noahic covenant, the Abrahamic covenant which included circumcision, the Levitical Law, the Davidic promise, and the advent of Christ, necessitate that I believe in owning slaves. Or, as SkepticThinker so bizarrely asserted, that i currently own slaves.

And yet, you are confused by my response to him???
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Nope. No confusion here. Though your odd conclusion from evidence is no doubt
quite telling.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
DNB said:
Nope, it's the atheists who are incapable of smelling the coffee.
Just for the record, although I'm probably wasting my time here, no wise person believes in miraculous events simply for the supernatural aspect of them. It is on the grounds as to why such occurrences took place, is what compels the insightful to believe in such phenomena. Man has defied God from the beginning of time, claiming to believe in Him but defaming, and showing nothing but contempt for Him in all their actions. Despite the fact that He gave us the opportunity for life and love, and has only asked that we love one another - nothing burdensome or onerous.

We deserved the flood, and it is only by His mercy that He even spared the eight people of Noah's family.
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I know the story.

Its not an "atheist" thing to know there was no flood. Error # one on your part. Educated Christians are aware that it did not happen.
As are all educated people.

Its the flood believers who need to open their eyes, so you got that backwards.

" Compels the insightful".
Time is of course wasted pointing out
contrary facts to those incapable of learning.
Ansorbing new info and gaining insight is denied to those so afflicted

So you got the insight thing backwards, the capable of
learning backwards, but are spot on with " compelled".
A good insight, that. Consider well what it says of the
thinking process, of by what exactly it is that you
are thus compelled to believe contrary to fact.

Choosing a certain reading for personals a self indulgent, not a rational act.

The physical proof that no flood ever occurred is so extensive, so obvious, so thoroughly
demonstrated by details minute, subtle, and
grand scale that to claim flood anyway is not
the action of an insightful person, to say the least.

Nor is it sensible to think one knows more about
physical science
than every researcher on earth, that all of their relevant data is false.

I forget the author of the quote, but it was yo the effect that " to dismiss something you know nothing about is the height of foolishness"

Shall we guess that you will seek to turn
this around on me rather than hazard any insight, and will not by any means consider
learning the proof that no flood occurred?

One lil thought- Would, in your estimation,
the God you worship be pleased with you for
promoting the image of him as the sort of
monster who would drown the whole world?
 
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SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
robocop (actually) said:
I hate to fight, but what's backwards is you assuming you are better than God.

Forget the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God for an instant.

Just think about if there's a God:

OK don't you think you should try to seek guidance from that God and not the other way around?
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Depends what kind of God it is.
 
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