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Hitchen's Challange

DNB

Christian
People are born gay, just as people are born straight, it is not a choice, or a "taste for something", that bigoted canard has been exposed for what it is for some time. Homosexuality is a perfectly natural variation of adult human sexual desire. Again if you don't like it then don't do it, but others are not bound to live their lives being punished and hurt, according to your beliefs and prejudices.
I believe that it destroys good character, that is, all forms of sexual deviancies. I've never met a promiscuous person that I could call a lady or a gentleman, and I've never met a homosexual (for the large part) that didn't have a major character flaw; not necessarily in behaviour, but when pressed for their views on a particular issue. It is then that one starts to see the imbalance in their perception.
 

DNB

Christian
Most intolerant people tend to chaff at organisations that fight for equality. Gay people have the same rights as straight people in most decent societies, as they should.
Yes, the same governmental services and infrastructure, but they have truly corrupted the social aspect of society. How many children these days have no flippin' clue what gender that they are, due to the utter demented rhetoric of the lgbtq community.
 

DNB

Christian
So what? We are not all gay are we, so that's rather meaningless assertion. In fact we have an exponentially increasing human population, which is one the single most serious threats to the planet and all life that we face. Since the planet has finite resources.
Well, you can thank the heterosexuals for the propagation of many offspring, but denounce the greedy, ambitious, and ruthless for the misappropriation of wealth and necessities.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
I believe that it destroys good character, that is, all forms of sexual deviancies.

I don't care what you believe, as it is irrelevant to how others live their lives. A persons character is determined by their actions, not by their sexual orientation. You're just blinded by homophobic bigotry.

I've never met a promiscuous person that I could call a lady or a gentleman,

I could care less, but I'm glad you agree that gay people should have the same rights to marriage and monogamy as straight people.

and I've never met a homosexual (for the large part) that didn't have a major character flaw;

So your hatred of gay people is unable to find a gay person you like, quelle surprise, but again I couldn't care less. Your bigotry and prejudice towards gay people is your problem, not theirs.


not necessarily in behaviour, but when pressed for their views on a particular issue. It is then that one starts to see the imbalance in their perception.

As opposed to the blinkered hate speech, and denial of scientific facts you champion you mean? That is pretty hilarious. :facepalm:
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Yes, the same governmental services and infrastructure, but they have truly corrupted the social aspect of society. How many children these days have no flippin' clue what gender that they are, due to the utter demented rhetoric of the lgbtq community.

Gender dysphoria and homosexuality are not remotely synonymous? I shan't even feign surprise you are ignorant of the difference.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Well, you can thank the heterosexuals for the propagation of many offspring, but denounce the greedy, ambitious, and ruthless for the misappropriation of wealth and necessities.

The exponentially increasing population will destroy the planet, it is a mathematical certainty, as we live on a planet with finite resources. Also gay men and women can and do still procreate, so even by your standards that post is an hilarious mishmash of nonsense. You didn't remotely address my post, so try again:

So what? We are not all gay are we, so that's rather meaningless assertion. In fact we have an exponentially increasing human population, which is one the single most serious threats to the planet and all life that we face. Since the planet has finite resources.
 

DNB

Christian
I don't care what you believe, as it is irrelevant to how others live their lives. A persons character is determined by their actions, not by their sexual orientation. You're just blinded by homophobic bigotry.



I could care less, but I'm glad you agree that gay people should have the same rights to marriage and monogamy as straight people.



So your hatred of gay people is unable to find a gay person you like, quelle surprise, but again I couldn't care less. Your bigotry and prejudice towards gay people is your problem, not theirs.




As opposed to the blinkered hate speech, and denial of scientific facts you champion you mean? That is pretty hilarious. :facepalm:
No, sorry, ....yes, I said they should have all the same civil rights as any heterosexual couple, but I failed to stipulate; except marriage.
I believe that it's an absolute abomination to marry a homosexual couple, utterly disgraceful.
 

DNB

Christian
Gender dysphoria and homosexuality are not remotely synonymous? I shan't even feign surprise you are ignorant of the difference.
They are all derived from the same disgusting perversion - attempting to justify a homosexual relationship. Their utter desperation and delusion has lead them to now distort and bastardize the most intrinsic aspect of one's anatomy - their gender.

When, Sheldon, are you going to start accepting the disgraceful and pathetic justification, of such an absurd and demented activity?
 

DNB

Christian
The exponentially increasing population will destroy the planet, it is a mathematical certainty, as we live on a planet with finite resources. Also gay men and women can and do still procreate, so even by your standards that post is an hilarious mishmash of nonsense. You didn't remotely address my post, so try again:
Well, a person who can't sing can still use auto-tune. So, in other words, we have now an incompetent, or non-singer, who sings. It's just like a boy, who thinks that he's a girl.
Why do you always support the sub-standard and perverted?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
No, sorry, ....yes, I said they should have all the same civil rights as any heterosexual couple, but I failed to stipulate; except marriage.
I believe that it's an absolute abomination to marry a homosexual couple, utterly disgraceful.

Again believe what you want, that ship has sailed.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
They are all derived from the same disgusting perversion - attempting to justify a homosexual relationship. Their utter desperation and delusion has lead them to now distort and bastardize the most intrinsic aspect of one's anatomy - their gender.

When, Sheldon, are you going to start accepting the disgraceful and pathetic justification, of such an absurd and demented activity?

The more of your bigoted homophobia you espouse the more ignorant it becomes. Homosexuality is part of who a person is, just as heterosexuality is. The only desperation I see, are in the hysterical bigotry some theists still cling to, you might as well be advocating we stone unruly children at the edge of town.

When DNB are you going to take a whiff of reality and decency?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Well, a person who can't sing can still use auto-tune. So, in other words, we have now an incompetent, or non-singer, who sings. It's just like a boy, who thinks that he's a girl.

Can anyone translate that disjointed rant into English for me?

Why do you always support the sub-standard and perverted?

I never have, I always make a point of opposing nasty, vicious, hate filled ignorant homophobic bigots.
 

DNB

Christian
The more of your bigoted homophobia you espouse the more ignorant it becomes. Homosexuality is part of who a person is, just as heterosexuality is. The only desperation I see, are in the hysterical bigotry some theists still cling to, you might as well be advocating we stone unruly children at the edge of town.

When DNB are you going to take a whiff of reality and decency?
...I'm all for decency (great word), ...now, let's define it...
 

DNB

Christian
Can anyone translate that disjointed rant into English for me?



I never have, I always make a point of opposing nasty, vicious, hate filled ignorant homophobic bigots.
My point was, why do you advocate the principle that something that intrinsically isn't one particular thing, can be what it's not?

And, again, you really need to quit playing the bigot card. I was, and still can be, a perverted and shameful person. For the sake of this argument, I don't approve of many of the things that I catch myself doing, I want them to stop. I will never endorse, indiscriminately, all the actions that I take, I will denounce them and say that they are either disgusting or corrupt.

But, you, on the other hand, cannot tell right from wrong.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
...I'm all for decency (great word), ...now, let's define it...

You're out of touch with accepted standards of morality, that is what happens when you try to rip your morals from archaic superstitions as if they're absolutes. It can't work...
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
My point was, why do you advocate the principle that something that intrinsically isn't one particular thing, can be what it's not?

I have never done this, so that's a straw man.

And, again, you really need to quit playing the bigot card.

It's not a card, it is a descriptor of behaviour.

I was, and still can be, a perverted and shameful person. For the sake of this argument, I don't approve of many of the things that I catch myself doing, I want them to stop. I will never endorse, indiscriminately, all the actions that I take, I will denounce them and say that they are either disgusting or corrupt.

Well that is for you to decide, though it doesn't sound like a healthy worldview. However it is only for you to decide for yourself.

But, you, on the other hand, cannot tell right from wrong.

Sure I can, putting a full stop in the middle of sentence, then starting a new sentence with the word but, is just plain wrong.
 

DNB

Christian
You're out of touch with accepted standards of morality, that is what happens when you try to rip your morals from archaic superstitions as if they're absolutes. It can't work...
Man has not changed, Sheldon. Greed and avarice were derived from the exact same motives and misguidedness, 4000 years ago as they are today. Did you not know that?
Charity, compassion, altruism, racism, xenophobia, and arrogance, has not changed either their manifestation nor their innate inclination, for countless millennia. Did you not know that?

Antiquity does not discredit the study of human nature - but only science and technology does it put into question. Did you not know that?
 
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