leibowde84
Veteran Member
I understand that. I just don't think it's actually achievable.
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Hold your Breath
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
achievable?.....and you thought there was a goal?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
The goal is to imagine what it would be like not to breathe.
No matter how bad the news may get, it is not representative of all human beings.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
LOL, yeah, with my luck, I'll just evolve some mutant power ...
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and a little more.....
Thief
Rogue Theologian
indeed!
here in this life we do what we can within arms reach.
death takes that away.
If you are able in the next life.....it is in spirit.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
only the good continue?
and the Carpenter said.....
No one is good but the Father.
where (or by what means) is the line drawn?
could you be trusted with greater ability?
say as it is.....and becomes so
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
In the words of Woody Allen: "Its not that Im afraid of death, I just dont want to be there when it happens."
Im comfortable with not existing. Its the same as before I was born. Im not comfortable with how I will die. I hope that when I do, I am right. I will live on earth as spirit to help my family, becoming an "ancestor" as they are to me.
My last thought would be
I rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
Im comfortable with not existing. Its the same as before I was born. Im not comfortable with how I will die. I hope that when I do, I am right. I will live on earth as spirit to help my family, becoming an "ancestor" as they are to me.
My last thought would be
I rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
Thief
Rogue Theologian
you lean to the rebellious?
not that I believe in conformity.
I do believe a change of life will happen for those able and willing.
I also believe Someone will be in charge.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
You lost me, I'm afraid.
First thing to pop in my head was the Jesus Prayer in German. In English it goes "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me." Christian until death!
...Now I just gotta work on being Christian BEFORE death. >_>
Cap'n MacDougal
Member
Obviously. If an individual chooses to change their life, they're "in charge." If not, they remain "in charge," yet inactive. Or possibly inert. Religious stuff seems to always be primed by the self-help aisle.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
more like.....
I believe I will have a shot about continuance.
I do the same for all others.
but heaven is a place of peace and that peace is guarded.
God and heaven have choices to make.
it is correct to say you are in charge in tis manner.....
Do unto others as you would have it done unto you
this popular saying does put you in charge.....your fate may well be your own doing
Unification
Well-Known Member
Meditation for me is stilling the mind/making the mind stand still, and taking no thought, so there would be no thought.
Also, from where you're coming from... "Jesus" said to "take no thought for your life."
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I recall the quote....
He was speaking of life in this world.
He was suggesting we worry less about food, shelter and clothing.
He did say....
Consider the lilies. They do not sow or reap, nor do they spin.
but they are adorned more so than any......
I say, He wanted us to lean our thought to that hour pending......the last breath
Unification
Well-Known Member
Down to the last breath would still be life in this world.
Why worry about anything if someone would be in good hands?
What do you think about not worrying about physical death?
I can see why some will take thoughts and worry while some won't worry or have to think about it.
Maybe our views on "meditation" differ. For me there is a difference between making the mind stand still and taking no thought, and then reflective/contemplative thinking.
How do you see meditation?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The plants are going to be in trouble.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
more to expanding thoughtful ability
I have meditated with Rubik's Cube.
I have sat still and contemplated geometry with relative motion involved.
and of course.....theology at length.
to empty the mind and be still is all fine and good......but it only empties your mind.
in the hour of your last breath .....ALL that you are will fill your mind
ever hear the expression?......my life passed before my eyes!
Cap'n MacDougal
Member
Fair enough. My fate, for the most part, is my own doing. Although this may not be the case for every individual on the planet, for me to think otherwise would be foolish. I may construct my life as I wish. There are obvious constraints regarding the limits of my endeavors, i.e. I cannot fly without aid. I may meditate to remove some of the background noise, and clarify what it is I wish to do. I'm not quite certain why heaven and peace would be a guarded place, if an omnimax being existed which (or who) was able to make it available to all.