Homophobia

[Shadow Wolf]

They still need both parents. Those other people do not compensate for lack of and failure in parents. Besides, those others might be worthless or even harmful. The parents are the rock for the child — well they should be anyway.

See? A reason science doesn't say a child needs a mother and father is because it's knowm mom and dad can be the worst thing ever for their child.
Amd there's adopted kids who didn't know they were adopted when they were kids and it they turned out well (one of my friends from long ago was raised by his grandparents who he thought were his parents, and even to his friends they were his parents until the day they died).
A child needs loving providers and care takers who nurture and support their child while furnishing for a stable home environment with consistent rules and disciplines that actually teach and instill right from wrong rather than teaching them to avoid punishment.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God allows homosexuals to practice homosexuality, too. They're still sinful, it's still wrong, and they'll still be punished for it.

No, the Bible advocates death for that act. You should read your Bible some day. Where God puts his stamp of approval of selling one's daughter into sex slavery, as long as it is with a man, and allows a man to buy sex slaves. As long as they are female.

I've posted more evidence than all of you together — you just keep ignoring it. That's a you problem.

No, you do not seem to even understand the concept of evidence. You have only made unsubstantiated claims. But if I ever post something that you did not know was a fact just ask me to support it and I will.

Only when it happens to be against your values. Otherwise you love it.

No, I am very much against bigotry. You may be conflating advocating for justice and rights for everyone as "bigotry". You appear to be at best very confused quite often.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

God is clearly not bothered about sex or sexuality or he would have done things differently.
He could equally have made us all hermaphrodite. But he chose not to.
Religions have put their own prejudices Into god's mouth.
You never heard Jesus say anything about it at all.
All prejudice is man made.

 

[Pawpatrol]

God is clearly not bothered about sex or sexuality or he would have done things differently.
He could equally have made us all hermaphrodite. But he chose not to.
Religions have put their own prejudices Into god's mouth.
You never heard Jesus say anything about it at all.
All prejudice is man made.

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female,' and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’

It's straightforward.

 

[Ebionite]

God is clearly not bothered about sex or sexuality or he would have done things differently.

You mean like leaving about the commandment about adultery?

 

[Pawpatrol]

God, if you take the Genesis view, created humans, hence the entire range of human behavior. And given God is omniscient, [he] knew all the consequences of [his] acts at the time [he] did them, and since [he] did them regardless, [he] is the knowing creator of homosexuality, and indeed all forms of human sexuality. On this basis, homosexuality could not exist except by God's express will, whether the biblical authors held other views from time to time or not

That doesn't remove the fact that God forbade homosexual acts.

And indeed, as the Catholic church will tell you, not a few priests have been and are homosexual. I've read somewhere that in Ireland before it threw off its religious chains not so far back, it was taken for granted that if you weren't going to marry then you were going into the priesthood, where your wifeless status was a question that never arose.

I don't see a problem with a priest being homosexual so long as he doesn't practice it. A person can't be blamed simply for having a desire. We all have desires we aren't allowed to follow. God tests us that way.

 

[Ebionite]

That doesn't remove the fact that God forbade homosexual acts.

What fact? Male and female homosexuality are treated differently.

 

[blü 2]

That doesn't remove the fact that God forbade homosexual acts.

As I said earlier, if you take the Genesis view, God created humans, and thus the entire range of human sexuality ─ and being omniscient, [he] knew when [he] did this, and thus intended, all the consequences.

Given an omnipotent God, no alternative view is possible, regardless of any other views taken by the authors of the bible.

 

[Pawpatrol]

So what

You don't care about children's rights. Aren't you ashamed?

Prove it

Look around.

Several studies have found a tie between homophobia and latent homosexuality

It's like 6th grade again.

There it is again...
The "EWWWW" factor

I asked, don't you find them disgusting?

Bold empty claim

Do you propose there are many Gods?
Do you consider yourself logical and intelligent?

Thus the "ew" factor reigns supreme in your thinking

Actually the supreme is God's law, but your dismissal of the ew factor is strange. Why, you don't think people should consider their instincts a little?

 

[Pawpatrol]

You're just repeating yourself.

So are you.

AGAIN, people don't rape people that they love. Rape is not an act of love.
Do you understand this?

People do rape people they love. People also beat people they love.

Anal sex is not an act of love either - do you understand that?

What do men give children and what do women give children?

Eg. Men, discipline. Women, affection and empathy. More so than the other.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female,' and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’

It's straightforward.

Absolutely that is the bible instruction about marriage. It says nothing about sexuality.
Nor does it say anything about genetically intersex people.
However the bible is full of inconsistencies about sex and sexual relations, which is more consistent with the social mores of the time than anything relating to a confirmed commandment of god.

It seems that whenever there is no good reason to oppose a particular behaviour or practice that did not confirm to the social norms of the times. The enforcement was justified by saying, Gad said so.

This excuse is used by people such as your self right up to modern days.

Simply because it was believed by a bronze age tribe of primitive religious adherents.

 

[an anarchist]

People do rape people they love. People also beat people they love.

Bruh.

Da heck is wrong with your noggin?

Are you currently in an abusive relationship? I used to know a couple that had a wife beater. That was not love, but the wife thought so. Very tragic.

You are absolutely wrong about what people do to those they love. If they hurt them like that, they obviously don’t love them. You got a twisted perception, I’ll pray for you (I pray to the devil by the way)

 

[blü 2]

Anal sex is not an act of love either - do you understand that?

No reason why it can't be ─ those adults are consenting, after all.

 

[an anarchist]

No reason why it can't be ─ those adults are consenting, after all.

“Because it’s icky“
- @Pawpatrol , probably

 

[an anarchist]

Eg. Men, discipline. Women, affection and empathy. More so than the other.

God, you are archaic aren’t ya? Usually people are a product of their time, but not you. You are only 31! I wouldn’t say you have an “old soul” though. I have an old soul. You have a backwards and archaic soul. Usually it is boomers who have the silly, mean, and evil homophobic views, but here you are.

 

[an anarchist]

That doesn't remove the fact that God forbade homosexual acts.

God also banned being a hateful jerk and yet here ya are!

Though, your god contradicts himself continually. He says “love your neighbor” and also demands for the death of homosexuals, so I can see where you get the idea that your god is a jerk. No need to follow suit though

 

[an anarchist]

I don't see a problem with…

No one cares. People just feel obligated to slap down hateful bigotry, such as what you are spewing.

 

[Yerda]

I think that to love is to desire the good of the other, and since homosexual acts often harm those who participate in them, they are inherently unloving and therefore immoral.

Heterosexual marriage hurts millions of women all over the world in many ways. Therefore it is inherently unloving and hetersexual marriage is immoral?

 

[Argentbear]

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female,' and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’

It's straightforward.

so people who are celibate are evil?

 

[Argentbear]

That doesn't remove the fact that God forbade homosexual acts.

God also forbids having tattoos, wearing pol cotton blend shirts, letting non Christians live, having a Christmas tree, using incense, eating 4 legged insects (i know there aren't any such insects but if there were I bet they woudl taste great) and a few hundred other things. God also forbids hate of those who are different.