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Homosexual Relationships Are Wrong

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
And baseless propaganda should be rejected by everyone, even when it is used to promote what you think that the Scripture says.

Anti-homosexual propaganda is being used to destroy the lives of people! The Christian message does not destroy, but it is a message of redemption.

The irony of all this is that while conservative fundies are so worried about the possibility of homosexuality destroying families, they are doubtlessly destoying families by their ethically wreckless and careless behavior and rhetoric.


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Mike182

Flaming Queer
~Lord Roghen~ said:
im sorry, but you threw your oppinion out there and were found unable to support it

when my oppinion is confronted, and i cannot support it, i analyse it and usually change it!
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
~Lord Roghen~ said:
I seem to have started an uproar. Im really not sure why this is so personal to people.
Well then let me tell you... how would you react if day after day people (most of whom you don't even know) feel they have some god-given right to make judgements about your life and who you love. They then proceed to tell you how awful you are and that you're ruining society and corrupting children just by being who you are. Lastly, they push for the government to pass laws that hurt you and your family because of their beliefs, not because you're doing anything to hurt them. Wouldn't you find that a little tiresome, not to mention hurtful and offensive?

We have a number of GLBT folks here on RF, me being one. So when people post copied and pasted garbage like you do, we respond in defense of our lives that are being attacked. I don't believe you were just stating your opinion. If you really were "just stating your opinion," why the copy and paste job? Opinions are fine and encourage to be posted, no one removed your post from the forum, you're allowed to state it. Just know that others who don't agree with you are going to respond and debate you.
 

Ody

Well-Known Member
Reading the op kinda made me want so slam a big large sign of homophobia here, gotta go look for some pictures....might as well not though, its just some people... :sarcastic, i mean if an action is truely wrong, you should not have to resort to religious arguements. And i have another good point you should take into account. AIDS IS NOT A PURELY GAY DISEASE! BUT MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT ARE NOT GAY!
Sorry for the anger, this is one of the most strongest beliefs i have.
 

St0ne

Active Member
Your allowed to have your opinion but unless it's based on facts and sound reasoning then people are going to hit it pretty hard not because your opinion is wrong but mostly because the sources you use to come to the conclusion are biased or spreading wrong information.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
One must remember that when you point a finger at someone, there are three of your fingers pointing back at yourself.

Being gay, or lesbian, may be 'wrong' for you. That doesn't mean it's 'wrong' for someone else. Everyone is perfect in God's eyes. Everyone is exactly where they are suppossed to be for their own path. We can not look at someone and say 'you are wrong' because we do not know their path. We can NEVER know the path of someone else.

If something bothers you about an alternative lifestyle, the only course of action you can take is to examine your own feelings. Why does this bother you? And what do you need to do to change your feelings of judgement, to feelings of acceptance. We are to love unconditionally, that means with NO CONDITIONS. Jesus didn't pass judgement on sinners, he didn't make them promise loyaty, he just healed them, and loved them, and planted seeds of compassion. The rest is up to God. If God made everything, then he made the gay man/woman as well. It has to serve a purpose, otherwise, you are suggesting that God made a mistake.

God doesn't make mistakes.
 
Homosexuals cannot help their feelings, they are born like it. Why should they be forced to live a lie in order to satisfy the idealist's ignorant view of the world.

It's very well said and done in your opinion, put yourself in their shoes... You probably can't. hence your extreme ignorance to the situation.
 

literal visionary

Active Member
AIDS IS NOT A PURELY GAY DISEASE! BUT MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT ARE NOT GAY!

yeah now it isn't but it was gay people who proliferated it and spread it
the guy who brought it to america was a gay- canadian? i think

Homosexuals cannot help their feelings, they are born like it. Why should they be forced to live a lie in order to satisfy the idealist's ignorant view of the world.

yeah right, and if hitler would have been born an aborigine in australia, he would have had an inexplicable jew hater/mass murderer be cause he was born that way

its their environment, kids telling you at school that your gay just because you are different, after awhile you start to believe it,
people have to have a reason to be different, why they feel uncomfortable w others
the easiest explanation in our societies, plus there are stereotypes, how a strait guy should act, watch out if your naturally effeminate or if your a girl that hangs out with guys,


Being gay, or lesbian, may be 'wrong' for you. That doesn't mean it's 'wrong' for someone else. Everyone is perfect in God's eyes. Everyone is exactly where they are suppossed to be for their own path. We can not look at someone and say 'you are wrong' because we do not know their path. We can NEVER know the path of someone else.

were all perfect in Gods eyes?
BS to an extreme
we are imperfect in gods eyes, some of of us so evil he cant stand to look at us
why do you think he doesn't walk with man any more?

If something bothers you about an alternative lifestyle, the only course of action you can take is to examine your own feelings. Why does this bother you? And what do you need to do to change your feelings of judgement, to feelings of acceptance. We are to love unconditionally, that means with NO CONDITIONS. Jesus didn't pass judgement on sinners, he didn't make them promise loyaty, he just healed them, and loved them, and planted seeds of compassion. The rest is up to God. If God made everything, then he made the gay man/woman as well. It has to serve a purpose, otherwise, you are suggesting that God made a mistake.

God didn't create the world were in today, he created one without sin then we perverted it and twisted it, just like we twisted and pervrerted the acts of sex
were not all nice and okay and we caant just do what we want.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Your speculation that homosexuality is a learned behavior is supported by what observations or science, Literal Visionary?
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
literal visionary said:
yeah now it isn't but it was gay people who proliferated it and spread it
the guy who brought it to america was a gay- canadian? i think
you would have to show me a timeline of the disease, where and how it originated, to see if gay people are really responsible
yeah right, and if hitler would have been born an aborigine in australia, he would have had an inexplicable jew hater/mass murderer be cause he was born that way
you compare homosexuals to hitler, thats twisted!
its their environment, kids telling you at school that your gay just because you are different, after awhile you start to believe it,
people have to have a reason to be different, why they feel uncomfortable w others
the easiest explanation in our societies, plus there are stereotypes, how a strait guy should act, watch out if your naturally effeminate or if your a girl that hangs out with guys,
excuse me, what do you know about my environment that allows you to say this?
were all perfect in Gods eyes?
BS to an extreme
we are imperfect in gods eyes, some of of us so evil he cant stand to look at us
why do you think he doesn't walk with man any more?

God didn't create the world were in today, he created one without sin then we perverted it and twisted it, just like we twisted and pervrerted the acts of sex
were not all nice and okay and we caant just do what we want.
debatable, but for another thread.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
AlanGurvey said:
Reading the op kinda made me want so slam a big large sign of homophobia here, gotta go look for some pictures....might as well not though, its just some people... :sarcastic, i mean if an action is truely wrong, you should not have to resort to religious arguements. And i have another good point you should take into account. AIDS IS NOT A PURELY GAY DISEASE! BUT MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT ARE NOT GAY!
Sorry for the anger, this is one of the most strongest beliefs i have.

I am a bit like that; my hackles rise when I see a thread like this.....................

For one:- http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,987824,00.html


A new study of the oldest known HIV suggests the virus jumped from animals to humans in the 1940s
By CHRISTINE GORMAN

The year was 1959. Location: the central African city of Leopoldville, now called Kinshasa, shortly before the waves of violent rebellion that followed the liberation of the Belgian Congo. A seemingly healthy man walked into a hospital clinic to give blood for a Western-backed study of blood diseases. He walked away and was never heard from again. Doctors analyzed his sample, froze it in a test tube and forgot about it. A quarter-century later, in the mid-1980s, researchers studying the growing AIDS epidemic took a second look at the blood and discovered that it contained HIV, the virus that causes AIDS....
 

pdoel

Active Member
~Lord Roghen~ said:
I seem to have started an uproar. Im really not sure why this is so personal to people.

You just answered your own question. It IS personal to people. What makes you think you have the right to tell people how to live their lives? What makes your relationships any better than someone elses? What gives you the right to force your beliefs on someone else?

It's their business, not yours.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
~Lord Roghen~ said:
I seem to have started an uproar. Im really not sure why this is so personal to people.
im sorry if i offended anyone, i dont see what the problem is. Im just simply stating an oppinion

Look, just take one step back, and imagine, for a minute that the world is made up of 75% homosexuals. Imagine how you would feel, if everytime someone saw you holding a girl's hand, kissing her, whatever, they were to tell you "That it was wrong, you would go to hell, go and get 'cured', you shouldn't 'choose to be that way'........? Get what I am saying ? You are telling people who have a cross to bear, that even though Nature has made then different, they ought to suffer for being different. Wouldn't that get to you?
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
A bit late to jump on the bandwagon here, but... if it's wrong to be gay, I don't want to be right.

As a sidenote, everyone's done all this talk about gay sex spreading AIDS, but they've failed to account for female gay sex. :D Which, statistically, spreads STDs FAR less that male gay sex or straight sex. Wonder what that means? :p
 
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