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homosexuality a sin?

Skwim

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The only thing I know about that from the NT is that the only way into heaven is by faith in Jesus Christ.
Fine, but the NASB version of 1 Corinthians 6:9 says that even if a person has faith in Jesus Christ, if they are effeminate they won't make it to heaven. And the NASB isn't alone. Twelve other versions say the same thing.

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Grandliseur

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if sex for pleasure is allowed, then why scripture forbids homosexuality? and why only with one person is allowed?
It is simply a matter of law, a matter of what we are told to do. It is like when you drive a car, you need to follow the laws of the road to drive safely. The whole earth is a sex machine, it is one of the most common activities shared by all; therefore, it must be regulated since it creates offspring that need being taken care of. God wants this offspring to be holy, and he has designated what it means to be holy.

The married couple is supposed to become one, in being one they have the sexual activity as a glue that binds them together and is part of their love for each other.

When you look at the number of abortions, and even the killing or abandonment of small children - you should realize how necessary it is to have a safe harbor in which to raise children in an environment with love, monetary safety, and with adults working together to provide these with a stable home.
 
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Rise

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you mean a married couple can have oral sex? or use protection so that they WON'T have babies? no.
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First off, you're changing your original assertion. You tried to say sex for pleasure between rightly married couples was wrong - but by that definiton any sex during pregnancy is forbidden because she can't get pregnant. Or, for that matter, if a medical issue prevents one of them from actually having children, or they are too old, then you would have to insist they live like monks because sex would have no purpose but pleasure for them.

But you have no Biblical basis whatsoever for those claims.

And now you're not trying to defend that statement of yours anymore. You've switched to trying to argue against something different and unrelated to your original claim. I don't need to argue for or against either of those things, because they are irrelevant to supporting your assertion that rightly married couples should stop having sec after menopause or barrenness (which is the only logical conclusion if your original statement).


Second: just saying it's wrong doesn't prove anything - without a Biblical basis to back up what you claim your words mean nothing. Dont state your opinion as divine fact without being able to back it up.
 
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syo

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First off, you're changing your original assertion. You tried to say sex for pleasure between rightly married couples was wrong - but by that definiton any sex during pregnancy is forbidden because she can't get pregnant. Or, for that matter, if a medical issue prevents one of them from actually having children, or they are too old, then you would have to insist they live like monks because sex would have no purpose but pleasure for them.

But you have no Biblical basis whatsoever for those claims.

And now you're not trying to defend that statement of yours anymore. You've switched to trying to argue against something different and unrelated to your original claim. I don't need to argue for or against either of those things, because they are irrelevant to supporting your assertion that rightly married couples should stop having sec after menopause or barrenness (which is the only logical conclusion if your original statement).


Second: just saying it's wrong doesn't prove anything - without a Biblical basis to back up what you claim your words mean nothing. Dont state your opinion as divine fact without being able to back it up.
in orthodoxy sex is for having children. a married couple takes this blessing so that they don't have what would be a sinful sex. so a couple gains the right to have sex in contrary to other circumstanses. an unmarried person or a homosexual don't have the right to have sex. in orthodoxy the norm is a married man and woman ONLY can have sex. why? because they can have babies. this is how they follow the 'And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.' they pay great attention to this commant this way. now the couple naturaly can have pleasure sex all they like, but they don't gain this privilege because sex is pleasant.
 

McBell

Unbound
god created everything, good and evil. there are paths to living good and to living evil. goodness makes people happy and evil miserable. jesus's teachings lead to a good life. therefore teachings of christ are good and what opposes his teachings is evil id est sinful.
Reality begs to differ.
 

Rise

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in orthodoxy sex is for having children. a married couple takes this blessing so that they don't have what would be a sinful sex. so a couple gains the right to have sex in contrary to other circumstanses. an unmarried person or a homosexual don't have the right to have sex. in orthodoxy the norm is a married man and woman ONLY can have sex. why? because they can have babies. this is how they follow the 'And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.' they pay great attention to this commant this way. now the couple naturaly can have pleasure sex all they like, but they don't gain this privilege because sex is pleasant.

Nothing you posted disproves anything I already said.
Which is that there is nothing wrong with having sex for pleasure if you are a rightly married man and woman.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
in orthodox christianity homosexuality is consider a sin. why? in orthodox christianity sex is considered unholy if it's only for pleasure. a man and a woman having sex for fun is a sin and the couple is considered sinners. sex isn't unholy ONLY if it's for having babies. a gay couple can't have children. so they have sex only for fun. but having sex for fun is a sin. a homosexual and a heterosexual both should refrain from having sex for fun and the church is happy.

Yes it was forbidden in heavenly books
Because sexual pleasure is associated with procreation and is the subject of agreement creatures to marry for reproduction and not to tamper

Imagine you are given a million dollar delivery mission to your wife
But you're throwing $ 500,000 into a hole without interest
You have been convicted of wasting $ 500,000 and in human law you are arrested and thrown in prison :D
 
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