Homosexuality and Homosexual Marriages: Why do Christians Care?

[dgirl1986]

Noseyness? Conditioning? Misunderstanding? Internalised homophobia? Extremism?

Possibly all of this things.

 

[Skwim]

Fake news??? Where's your source!

Just take a look at their Home Page:

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Obama Announces Third Term Presidential Run
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Masturbating Teenage Boy Found Guilty After Mother Called 911; Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison Under New Self-Rape Law​

And then at the very bottom

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Think NBC News really needs to advertise for writers? Well, they don't. Sorry, but you've been snookered.


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[kaoticprofit]

Just take a look at their Home Page:

Bill Murray Accidentally Stops Robbery In Phoenix, Arizona
Jul 14, 2015


Bill Murray Is A Hero In London After Saving The Life Of A Child From Oncoming Traffic



Obama Announces Third Term Presidential Run
Oct 19, 2016



Masturbating Teenage Boy Found Guilty After Mother Called 911; Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison Under New Self-Rape Law​

And then at the very bottom

"Copyright 2016 | All Rights Reserved | Powered by HITTEKK | We need writers! If you would like to write for NBC, please contact us! Looking to advertise? Contact us! All trademarks, service marks, trade names, trade dress, product names, images and logos appearing on the site are the property of their respective owners. | Do you have a complaint? We love to hear them! You can call our complaint department directly at (785) 273-0325
​

Think NBC News really needs to advertise for writers? Well, they don't. Sorry, but you've been snookered.


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I haven't been snookered. I wouldn't marry a homosexual couple anyway. I just asked you about fake news and YOUR source. Thanks for responding. There are several people who will NOT marry Homosexual couples and I agree with them. If they get in trouble over it it's the law that's wrong not the pastor. One woman did go to jail for a short while for not issuing a marriage licence. PASTORS should be able to marry who they want.

 

[ronandcarol]

Homosexuality and Homosexual Marriages: Why do Christians Care?
Mainly because it states in the Bible that God is against it. It says that God gave them up to their own sinful pleasures. God made marriage for a man and a woman. How will the world population advance if same genders are united in marriage? We are supposed to pray for them to repent and change but we are not supposed to support or advance the practice of same sex marriage.

ronandcarol

 

[Skwim]

I haven't been snookered.

Sure you have. You thought the NBC article was true, when it's really just a parody. That's being snookered. And you know it. And we all know it

I just asked you about fake news and YOUR source. Thanks for responding.

No, you asked Shad. Not me. Skwim ≠ Shad. And Shad's source is the same as yours. Only difference is that you failed to see it for what it is, and he did.


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[Skwim]

Homosexuality and Homosexual Marriages: Why do Christians Care?
Mainly because it states in the Bible that God is against it.

But they care to the point of actively protesting both, yet we don't see Christians actively protesting any of the Seven deadly Sins: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, or Pride. OR actively protesting other sins, such as Profanity, Idolatry, Blasphemy, Witchcraft, Bestiality, Adultery, Fornication, Hatred, Drunkenness, etc. etc. Why ignore these sins and focus on homosexuality and same-sex marriage?

It says that God gave them up to their own sinful pleasures. God made marriage for a man and a woman.

And evidently you feel everyone in the country should be obligated to follow Christian principles of right and wrong, or at least those principles you feel should be followed.

How will the world population advance if same genders are united in marriage?

How would it prevent the population from advancing? (Not that we need more people on earth, because we don't)

We are supposed to pray for them to repent and change but we are not supposed to support or advance the practice of same sex marriage.

But obviously some Christians feel it's their duty to try to stop them from having sex and and marrying each other. Tell you what can actually hurt people is adultery, drunkenness, hatred, sloth, and greed. NOT homosexuality and same-sex marriage. Trouble with too many Christians is that they're titillated by the same sexual proclivities that titillated their puritanical forebears---unfortunately, window peeking and finger shaking is still alive and well in Christendom, and has been elevated to an ugly degree. Too bad these people can't find a more harmless activity to waste their time on, like praying there favorite football team to wins next Sunday.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Homosexuality and Homosexual Marriages: Why do Christians Care?
Mainly because it states in the Bible that God is against it.

No, it doesn't.

It says that God gave them up to their own sinful pleasures.

Not talking about homosexuality there.

God made marriage for a man and a woman.

He told you that, personally?

How will the world population advance if same genders are united in marriage?

Irrelevant.

We are supposed to pray for them to repent and change but we are not supposed to support or advance the practice of same sex marriage.

ronandcarol

You can't change your sexual orientation. Funny how God is telling us different things.

 

[Prestor John]

So to be clear, are you saying that you would have no problem with an owner of a restaurant refusing to serve Blacks if the owner thought doing so would violate the tenants of his religion? Is that your position?

Let me make it clear that I do not personally consider homosexuals perverse or evil. I would not deny any goods or services to someone because of their race, religion or sexual preference.

However, I believe that the free market should be free. Meaning that business owners have the freedom to rise or fall on their own, without being forced or coerced.

I believe that the owner of a private business should be free to refuse service to anyone. Just as I believe that any consumer is free to boycott or protest any business.

So, even though I do not consider your example to be a valid comparison, I believe that the owner of that restaurant should be free to deny a Black person service. Just as I believe that that restaurant owner should be free to make any other decision that will destroy his business.

If the market is truly free, then that restaurant will not last long. There is no need for a Federal mandate or for courts to get involved. The people will boycott and protest and that restaurant owner will have to either change his mind and attitude or go out of business.

 

[Prestor John]

Except that your adding the word "simply" changes what I said.
I said that there are ways of sharing your opinion that are illegal.
You changed it to simply sharing your opinion.
If you cannot see the difference....

Also, I said illegal.
I do not believe all laws are moral.
But then, I believe Prop 8 to be immoral.

According to the OP, Christians are all the time being persecuted for "simply" sharing their opinion.
it matters not how "simply" you share your opinion of "you should kill yourself" to another.
You will likely be arrested for sharing said opinion.
I know you will here in my neck of the woods.
Even if you are minor talking to an older minor.

I don't believe that the sharing of any opinion should be illegal and my adding "simply" did not change what you said at all.

I am not a minor.

 

[Prestor John]

If you're not going to bother turning off an ad blocker (which I doubt, I use ad block and can see the content just fine ) then I'm not going to bother. You clearly only accept sources that conform to your world view.
Do some basic research and you'll find that I and others have been talking about the EC since the 90s, and you'll also find those violent rioters on your side you refuse to see. I'm out.

I am on a Federal server. I cannot see your source. If you are unable to provide another source. maybe that means not that many people agree with you?

I don't believe I should need to perform any research to support your argument.

I understand that you and others have been whining about the Electoral College for a while, but that still does not change the fact that the Founding Fathers included it in order to protect the nation from the "tyranny of the majority".

I will stick with them and their reason over you and whining.

You lost. Get over it.

 

[Prestor John]

The first thing you are going to have to do is present a system of "measurement" for morals.

The reason being that I do not believe the Catholic Church to be any sort of reliable standard for morals.

Funny how I do not see a list.
Or is it your claim that the Catholic Church is your list?

I see no reason to provide a list for something so apparent.

I can tell you fi something is immoral or not. Just ask.

 

[sayak83]

Religiously, marriage is a holy thing. To say that it can be participated in by any two people other than a male and a female is sacrilege.

Politically, homosexuality is intolerable; to say that even civil unions can or should be allowed in law is to offer concession to it, and to dignify it as something other than a revolting disorder. Obviously, to propagate gay "marriage" is to take it a whole leap forward; to put the unification of man-and-man and woman-and-woman on the same level of dignity as "traditional" (read: actual, true) marriage.

I live in this society. I will also be raising children in this society. The issue of homosexuality and homosexual "marriage" is my business because it affects the world in which I live, and the society which I (we) have received from our forefathers, along with the responsibility to preserve and cultivate it. I oppose it not only on religious grounds, but in the interest of establishing and preserving a societal and communal environment which is right and ideal for my children to be raised in. To that end, I recognise the degeneracy of homosexuality as a threat to the moral integrity of my nation, and the propagation of 'homosexual interests' by political means as a plague on my society.

Does this statement above pass the morality mirror test? No.
Let's see:-
Ideologically, Racial Purity is a sacred thing. To say that marriage can be participated in by any two people other than a male Aryan and a female Aryan is sacrilege.

Politically,racial admixture is intolerable; to say that even civil unions can or should be allowed in law is to offer concession to it, and to dignify it as something other than a revolting disorder. Obviously, to propagate inter-racial "marriage" is to take it a whole leap forward; to put the unification of Aryan-NonAryan on the same level of dignity as "traditional" (read: actual, true pure Aryan-Aryan) marriage.

I live in this society. I will also be raising children in this society. The issue of inter-racial "marriage" is my business because it affects the world in which I live, and the society which I (we) have received from our forefathers, along with the responsibility to preserve and cultivate it. I oppose it not only on ideological grounds, but in the interest of establishing and preserving a societal and communal environment which is right and ideal for my children to be raised in. To that end, I recognise the degeneracy of racial-admixture as a threat to the moral integrity of my nation, and the propagation of 'non-Aryan interests' by political means as a plague on my society.


I hope it is clear to everyone why Stalwart's view is just a modern example of hateful and morally evil doctrine which we have yet to delegitimize from society.

Your views, sir, is a plague to my society and we will do our utmost to eliminate the legitimacy of such views through peaceful political means for the sake of our children.

 

[Jainarayan]

But Islam is pretty strict on its views with homosexuality, why is bigotry automatically seen as a Christian ''trait?''

It's the over-culture of the US.

 

[columbus]

Your views, sir, is a plague to my society and we will do our utmost to eliminate the legitimacy of such views through peaceful political means for the sake of our children.

And when we do that the squeals of "Persecution! " will be deafening.
Tom

 

[Jainarayan]

Religiously, marriage is a holy thing. To say that it can be participated in by any two people other than a male and a female is sacrilege.

Your religion is your own business. It's not mine. Nor does it have any place in US civil law.

Politically, homosexuality is intolerable; to say that even civil unions can or should be allowed in law is to offer concession to it, and to dignify it as something other than a revolting disorder.

You forgot to begin with "In my opinion... "

Obviously, to propagate gay "marriage" is to take it a whole leap forward; to put the unification of man-and-man and woman-and-woman on the same level of dignity as "traditional" (read: actual, true) marriage.

It is. So sayeth the Supreme Court of the United States.

it affects the world in which I live, and the society which I (we) have received from our forefathers

No it doesn't.

I oppose it not only on religious grounds, but in the interest of establishing and preserving a societal and communal environment which is right and ideal for my children to be raised in. To that end, I recognise the degeneracy of homosexuality as a threat to the moral integrity of my nation, and the propagation of 'homosexual interests' by political means as a plague on my society.

So I guess you don't want any of the benefits this society offers that my tax dollars contribute to?

 

[Jainarayan]

She also wishes the U.S. government were set up with Christian values as that's how she feels everyone would be happy is through Christ.

I would like for one of these people who talk about the US being founded on "Christian values" or "Christian principles" to define that. Can she explain what "Christian values" are? Maybe they also mean that divorce, bacon double cheeseburgers, cotton/poly blends (well... ), peel 'n eat shrimp, crab legs at the all-you-can-eat Asian buffet (that's two sins for the price of one... shellfish and gluttony) should be outlawed; Sunday blue laws reinstated and enforced. They could take a lesson from God-fearing Bergen County, NJ where blue laws are still on the books. People who talk about the US being founded on "Christian values" or "Christian principles" crack me up. No, actually they make me want to weep for them.

 

[Jainarayan]

I assure you that my hatred for sexual deviancy is motivated as much by politics as religion.

I have to wonder why you think about it so much. Have you seen two men or two women doing the deed in public? I would rail against that too. Just as I find it uncouth when a man and a woman begin eating each others' faces in public. What exactly is it about two men or two women living together that takes up so much room in your head? This I cannot understand.

 

[Jainarayan]

One woman did go to jail for a short while for not issuing a marriage licence.

As she should have.

PASTORS should be able to marry who they want.

No one is saying they can't. Even if it were a law that a clergyperson had to marry me and my husband, I would not want it done by someone grudgingly. That's the true mockery.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Just as I find it uncouth when a man and a woman begin each others' faces in public.

Oops, sorry.

 

[Jainarayan]

Oops, sorry.

Actually thanks for pointing this out. I forgot "eating" in there.