Homosexuality and marriage (again)

[McBell]

I am in the same opinion that mixed sex couples should be top of the list for adopting and raising a child and that definately the next best option is a same sex couple followed by a single parent.

I have to ask: Why?

 

[McBell]

What i'm saying is that of all the most loving and supportive environments, a mixed sex couple is the most ideal, followed by same sex couples, then single parents.

Again I have to ask: Why?

 

[JamBar85]

to answer that question yes i do think the child is more likely to be gay,i think it comes from monkey see monkey do.If for example the two dads are having a big tonguey kiss on the sofa (yuk)as is normal in a relationship it is deemed to be the norm for kids as they grow up.To back this up and it is not in anyway the same as being gay,children who are abused as children go on to abuse their children i think the percentage is quite high around 75%, so yes i do

Thats a fair opinion. I disagree with you.
I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I just wanted to know what your thoughts were on it.

 

[McBell]

to answer that question yes i do think the child is more likely to be gay,i think it comes from monkey see monkey do.If for example the two dads are having a big tonguey kiss on the sofa (yuk)as is normal in a relationship it is deemed to be the norm for kids as they grow up.To back this up and it is not in anyway the same as being gay,children who are abused as children go on to abuse their children i think the percentage is quite high around 75%, so yes i do

Then would you be so kind as to explain homosexuals who were raised in a heterosexual environment?

 

[England my lionheart]

then i look forwards to the studies you will produce to support your premise that children will be seriously mentally confused by the new situation.



our moaning is a pain in your butt? selfish to want to not be discriminated against? i'm going to go have a cigarette and a shower before i answer this part of your post, it wound me up. a lot.

Sorry,i had no intention of winding you up,i myself have nothing to get wound up about so if i come accross as insensative i apologise.

 

[JamBar85]

Again I have to ask: Why?

Don't get me wrong, I think the most important thing is a loving family unit. I just think a mixed sex couple is more ideal because I think some issues are better dealt with by the father and some issues are better dealt with by the mother.

For example, if a teenage girl gets her first period, I think that issue is going to be dealt with better by a mother.
When lads learn to pee standing up. I think thats something for the father to teach.
The sexual issues. I think it's best to have input from both sexes rather than just one.

I'm finding it hard to explain but I am not saying that ALL mixed sex loving couples make better parents than gay couples because that's not true.

I just personally think that a mixed sex couple is more ideal.

 

[McBell]

Don't get me wrong, I think the most important thing is a loving family unit. I just think a mixed sex couple is more ideal because I think some issues are better dealt with by the father and some issues are better dealt with by the mother.

For example, if a teenage girl gets her first period, I think that issue is going to be dealt with better by a mother.
When lads learn to pee standing up. I think thats something for the father to teach.
The sexual issues. I think it's best to have input from both sexes rather than just one.

I'm finding it hard to explain but I am not saying that ALL mixed sex loving couples make better parents than gay couples because that's not true.

I just personally think that a mixed sex couple is more ideal.

You do know that this is year 2007 right?

 

[JamBar85]

You do know that this is year 2007 right?

Why the sarcasm?

 

[McBell]

Why the sarcasm?

When I use sarcasm I put
{sarcasm}
{/sarcasm}
around it.

 

[England my lionheart]

Then would you be so kind as to explain homosexuals who were raised in a heterosexual environment?

Some people are just that way,some people are gay and then turn hetresexual some bi sexual.But the question i was asked was about kids and kids see and kids do,kids play at being parents because they copy what they see but i cannot say why people from a hetresexual family become or are gay.

 

[McBell]

Some people are just that way,some people are gay and then turn hetresexual some bi sexual.But the question i was asked was about kids and kids see and kids do,kids play at being parents because they copy what they see but i cannot say why people from a hetresexual family become or are gay.

Kinda kills your theory, don't you think?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What i'm saying is that of all the most loving and supportive environments, a mixed sex couple is the most ideal, followed by same sex couples, then single parents.

And what I'm saying is that your assertion amounts to little more than baseless and bigoted nonsense for which you offer not the slightest support.

 

[michel]

I was going to put that but it seemed like too much of an obvious answer.
Of course the child should be put in the best environment. What i'm saying is that of all the most loving and supportive environments, a mixed sex couple is the most ideal, followed by same sex couples, then single parents.

How could anyone know that? At best, it is a subjective opinion of yours, which will no doubt be formed around your moralities and thoughts (and there is nothing wrong with that). The point is, that without having 3 cloned babies, brought up in identical environments, by parents who themselves are clones, it can at best only be an opinion - as it happens, I disagree with you entirely; I think Jay's reply mirrors my thoughts to a tee.

 

[Mike182]

Sorry,i had no intention of winding you up,i myself have nothing to get wound up about so if i come accross as insensative i apologise.

your comment showed total ignorance of the implications that unequal legislation has on people. when you have gone through being disallowed to see the one you love when they are in hospital, be it for a minor health matter or a terminal one, because you are not their legal next of kin, and you don't kick up a fuss about it, then you can say we are being selfish, because that is the implication of unequal rights.

many gay people do not have the support of their families, and those families have visitation rights over the gay person's partner, and can ban their partner from visiting them in hospital. this is a reality for many gay couples in the US, although certainly not so much over here in the UK.

just one on a long list... of our obviously selfish reason...

 

[JamBar85]

And what I'm saying is that your assertion amounts to little more than baseless and bigoted nonsense for which you offer not the slightest support.

Why does it?

I explained on the previous page why I think what I think.

The most important thing for a child is a caring and loving family.
How the hell is that bigoted nonsense?

 

[JamBar85]

How could anyone know that? At best, it is a subjective opinion of yours, which will no doubt be formed around your moralities and thoughts (and there is nothing wrong with that). The point is, that without having 3 cloned babies, brought up in identical environments, by parents who themselves are clones, it can at best only be an opinion - as it happens, I disagree with you entirely; I think Jay's reply mirrors my thoughts to a tee.

Yes it is my opinion. I apologies if it came across as me claiming to know 100% that the best environment for a child IS a mixed sex couple.
I just personally think it is.

 

[McBell]

Yes it is my opinion. I apologies if it came across as me claiming to know 100% that the best environment for a child IS a mixed sex couple.
I just personally think it is.

Based on what?

 

[England my lionheart]

Kinda kills your theory, don't you think?

No it does'nt,the question i was asked was do i think a child is more likely to be gay if it has gay parents, well obviously it is and as a parent of three kids i do have some knowledge of this.
Kids love to copy their parents from the time they can walk and talk and my son who was just 4 at the time got into bed with his freind emily both naked because thats what mum and dad do.

 

[JamBar85]

Based on what?

I've already explained why I think a mixed sex couple is possibly better for a child.

I've already said that I don't think all mixed sex couples are better than all gay couples at parenting. I'm not typing it again.

Since i'm getting slammed here and getting called a bigot etc, can I ask what your thoughts on the matter are?

The most important thing for a child is a caring and loving family. How many times do I have to say that?

 

[England my lionheart]

Besides ,most women are natural mothers and most men are natural fathers,this is an ideal for a child so how can two men fulfil the role of both well no they cannot neither can two women,to pre
answer your next question neither can single parent but it must be easier to explain to a child.