Homosexuality and religious.

[mikkel_the_dane]

I don’t decide on these matters God does. I fully agree with whatever God decrees because He is God and is All Knowing. I only believe there is one God.

And thus you judge all other Gods to be wrong.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Please explain that with different words.

I do not question God because He is God.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

My belief is that there is only one God.

Yes, that is how you judge other beliefs in the end.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I do not question God because He is God.

Yeah, I doubt God all the time if I have to.

 

[loverofhumanity]

And thus you judge all other Gods to be wrong.

I only believe there is one God.

 

[Jimmy]

Okay, so you can't with God say that a given act is wrong. Do you understand that?

You can say the following: To me it is wrong, but I accept that there could be another God for which is not wrong.

to me abortion is wrong? oh wait im a man. on second thought abortion is wrong. works the same for homosexuality.
i support gay rights and am pro choice.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I only believe there is one God.

Yes. I believe differently.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Yes, that is how you judge other beliefs in the end.

My beliefs apply to myself and my life only. What others believe is their business.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

My beliefs apply to myself and my life only. What others believe is their business.

No, because there is only One God and you speak for that God.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Yes. I believe differently.

That’s your right. Whatever you believe you are a fellow human being and I accept you as my equal.

 

[loverofhumanity]

No, because there is only One God and you speak for that God.

I do not speak for anyone but myself. The Prophets They speak for God not me.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That’s your right. Whatever you believe you are a fellow human being and I accept you as my equal.

Okay, then stop speaking like there is only your God in the end. As long as you do that, you judge other people using your God as the only God.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I do not speak for anyone but myself. The Prophets They speak for God not me.

Well, you believe in them and that they speak for God. That is the same.

 

[dybmh]

Be generous in prosperity, and thankful in adversity. Be worthy of the trust of thy neighbor, and look upon him with a bright and friendly face. Be a treasure to the poor, an admonisher to the rich, an answerer of the cry of the needy, a preserver of the sanctity of thy pledge. Be fair in thy judgment, and guarded in thy speech. Be unjust to no man, and show all meekness to all men. Be as a lamp unto them that walk in darkness, a joy to the sorrowful, a sea for the thirsty, a haven for the distressed, an upholder and defender of the victim of oppression. Let integrity and uprightness distinguish all thine acts. Be a home for the stranger, a balm to the suffering, a tower of strength for the fugitive. Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light unto the feet of the erring. Be an ornament to the countenance of truth, a crown to the brow of fidelity, a pillar of the temple of righteousness, a breath of life to the body of mankind, an ensign of the hosts of justice, a luminary above the horizon of virtue, a dew to the soil of the human heart, an ark on the ocean of knowledge, a sun in the heaven of bounty, a gem on the diadem of wisdom, a shining light in the firmament of thy generation, a fruit upon the tree of humility.

"unjust to no man" and "defender of the victim of oppression" sounds like Baha'u'llah instructs to work for gay rights

 

[loverofhumanity]

Nice of you to illustrate my point for me.

(my post should have said "dogmatically entrenched", not "dogmatically entranced", although both apply )

When I was an atheist I had the exact same views until I came to know Who Baha’u’llah was.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Well, you believe in them and that they speak for God. That is the same.

I believe all the Prophets were sent by the same one God to guide mankind at different stages of our development.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Okay, then stop speaking like there is only your God in the end. As long as you do that, you judge other people using your God as the only God.

That is my belief applicable to myself only. Others can belief whatever they think is true.

 

[loverofhumanity]

"unjust to no man" and "defender of the victim of oppression" sounds like Baha'u'llah instructs to work for gay rights

Exactly.

To regard a person who has a homosexual orientation with prejudice or disdain is entirely against the spirit of the Faith. And where occasion demands, it would be appropriate to speak out or act against unjust or oppressive measures directed towards homosexuals. (Universal House of Justice)

 

[dybmh]

Exactly.

To regard a person who has a homosexual orientation with prejudice or disdain is entirely against the spirit of the Faith. And where occasion demands, it would be appropriate to speak out or act against unjust or oppressive measures directed towards homosexuals. (Universal House of Justice)

it's unjust to require gay Baha'i men to be celibate

 

[loverofhumanity]

it's unjust to require gay Baha'i men to be celibate

That only applies to Baha’is not others but Baha’i heterosexuals as well. But this is a personal matter of conscience between a person and God.

He is my true follower…

And if he met the fairest and most comely of women, he would not feel his heart seduced by the least shadow of desire for her beauty. Such an one, indeed, is the creation of spotless chastity. (Baha’u’llah)