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Homosexuality and religious.
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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So your beliefs are superior because you subjectively believe they come from a deity, it's not a new idea, but it never ceases to raise a laugh.
If only these infallible deities didn't have to rely on bigoted ignoramuses, they might communicate a morally cogent message that didn't contain the fingerprints of fallible evolved humans from the epoch the religious texts and message originated, even the ones plagiarised centuries later of course, just to lend them a little gravitas.
I think it very reasonable and rational that Baha’u’llah teaches the unity of mankind and peace between races, religions and nations in an age where leaders like Putin are threatening world war 3. Not to mention despotism in Syria, Iran, Yemen and Myanmar.
So we humans have created a really wonderful world haven’t we? It’s time we tried Baha’u’llah’s teachings and if they don’t work we can always have another world war.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
analogy: a comparison of things based on ways they are alike
analogy means - Google Search
Since they are not alike torturing babies is not analogous to depriving people of sex.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
God loves homosexuals? In spite of thinking their behavior is wrong? The important part of what the Baha'i Faith believes about homosexuality is that it is wrong and that a gay person will be expected to change their behavior if they want to remain a Baha'i or become a Baha'i.
Sheldon
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Sheldon said: ↑
If only these infallible deities didn't have to rely on bigoted ignoramuses, they might communicate a morally cogent message that didn't contain the fingerprints of fallible evolved humans from the epoch the religious texts and message originated, even the ones plagiarised centuries later of course, just to lend them a little gravitas.
I prefer black grapes to green, since we seem to be introducing irrelevant non sequiturs.
Sheldon
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dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Isn't it proper and polite to assume someone is moral until they show otherwise? Innocent till proven guilty?
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
A Baha'i adulterer isn't not going to be as easily known. Gays came out and asked the world to deal with it. Watch the video that is linked in Vinayaka's post #1518. It shows that the Baha'i Faith doesn't want to deal with them.
I can't see Bahai's watching it. The one fellow who did watch it said it wasted 22 minutes of his time. I can't see it changing a single thing, sadly. In the meantime, I feel for anyone born gay in any homophobic faith. Gotta be tough. I can certainly understand gay activism, and there have been changes over the years in some liberal Christian churches. There was a huge schism over it many years back in one of the largest Christian churches in Canada, the United Church of Canada. Many left, and many were saying, 'Finally!' I'm glad for this fellow he found a home in Buddhism. Did you see the other video I posted, which is a newer attempt at basically the same thing ... trying to change the system from the inside out.
I think I told you about my dentist, a fundamentalist with a gay son. He chose his son, thank goodness.
So logically, what we can infer from that -- out here in the real world -- is that the "Manifestation of God" only appears to people who want to become rich by bilking the gullible. Pass the collection plate!
You're welcome. This thread goes very fast, with so many participants. I've missed at least half of it myself, but I no longer have much of an interest. I'm more concerned about just emotionally supporting gays and their battles.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
How does a ban on homosexuality further these goals? It seems like it's off message to me.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
She also claimed she needed a reasonable and cogent argument why homosexuality is not evil, shameful, unnatural, and should be purged, etc....the etc after the word purged, really sent a shiver down my spine if I'm being honest.
Sorry, but that was a dodge. I had higher hopes, to be honest.
I would offer that is the case. It is all relative to ones chosen frame of reference. So some would see they are moral for embracing same sex marriage etc. A Baha'i does not have predudices in this regard. Yet in our chosen frame of reference, it is against Baha'i Law.
Abdul'baha was the example of knowing how to respond to such situations and mostly would not discuss such subjects when he knew the frame of reference of the person being addressed, was not compatible.
Regards Tony
Lots of contradictions in it. This is only the tip of the iceberg. But you probably already know that.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I've been following this topic and reading many comments made about Baha'i beliefs and homosexuality. After reading several of these posts, all I can say is that it makes sense to me why you are an atheist and don't follow an Abrahamic religion. The fact that some members are speaking out against what I personally view as clear religious prejudice against you and other LGBTQ+ people pleases me. One of the main issues I used to have with fellow conservative evangelical Christians when I was a Christian myself was their discriminatory attitude towards and treatment of LGBTQ+ people. So, I'd like you to know that you have a friend and an ally in me. I am sorry that you have to deal with this sort of dismal contention in your life, and I wish you all the best, Evangelicalhumanist.
CG Didymus
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What do the major sects of Judaism believe about homosexuality? Is it similar to Christianity? The more conservative sects hate it and call it evil. And the liberal sects are very accepting of it.