Don't you dare use HIV as a way to bash LGBT people. It's extremely callous, shows you don't care about people who are + and are ignorant of the facts. Most people with HIV in the world are straight.
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Homosexuality in the ancient world
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No, because it isn't.
With what percentage odds?
MJFlores
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HIV/AIDS in the Philippines - Wikipedia
HIV/AIDS infection in the Philippines might be low but growing. ... The Philippines is one of seven countries with growth in number of cases of over 25%, from 2001 to 2009. Cases are concentrated among men who have sex with men HIV cases among men having sex with men multiplied over 10 times since 2010.
It might not be true to your country but it is different here in the Philippines.
You're in the Philippines? Well, you have much bigger problems than HIV infections to worry about. Your country is ruled by a murderous psychopath. That's a much, much bigger problem.
Sorry to be less nationalistic than you are.
But I am talking about HIV. It's a global problem. It's mainly transmitted by heterosexual sex. I don't care about your country more than the rest of the human family.
Tom
Agreed. I thought the same, although its a culturally diverse grouping.
Still...so is African!
Well percentage odds don't apply to a logical possibility. Once we have established whether or not it is a logical possibility then perhaps likelihood comes into play and we can discuss that. But first can we at least agree that it is a logical possibility?
On what grounds to you claim that?
ecco
Veteran Member
With the exception of "but merely birth control", your comment is correct. However, many men who prefer sex with women, engage in male/male sexual activities. Many women who prefer sex with men engage in female/female sexual activities.
The world is not black and white. There are many shades in between.
Rubbish. Lots of things are "logically possible," and yet excessively remote in likelihood. It is certainly logically possible that I could select the winning lottery numbers 20 times in succession -- but I would not rate the odds at anything other than vanishingly small.
So, while it is "logically possible" that humans only developed the trait that a small number actually desire same sex relationships late in our history, even though our closest living relatives the chimpanzees and bonobos still enjoy it today, I rate the possibility extremely small.
Hardest thing in the world to get some people to understand....
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Many poorer countries seem to have upticks in something like a disease, when what really happened was better, more accurate, statistics. Because what is really being reported are diagnosis, which were likely under the true extent of the problem for many years. Especially the gay sex part.
I'm not necessarily describing your country, I don't claim to know about it in particular. But one thing I know is that the Philippines rank up there with Thailand for gay sex excursions, especially for pedophiles due to lax age statutes for consent.
Tom
Something else that might be different is reporting.
Many poorer countries seem to have upticks in something like a disease, when what really happened was better, more accurate, statistics. Because what is really being reported are diagnosis, which were likely under the true extent of the problem for many years. Especially the gay sex part.
I'm not necessarily describing your country, I don't claim to know about it in particular. But one thing I know is that the Philippines rank up there with Thailand for gay sex excursions, especially for pedophiles due to lax age statutes for consent.
Tom
Kelly of the Phoenix
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Hebrew religion, related to (As)Syrian religion, knew of Inanna and such. Inanna says She is in charge of gender and can make men into women and women into men.
A hymn to Inana (Inana C): translation
Like Anat or Astarte, They were both Goddesses of Fertility and War (to varying degrees of each depending on the character), showing that They were functionally both (in terms of gender roles).
Not sure how it worked in reality, but in mythology, divine intervention usually played a part.
And metal penile prostheses or dildos have been found from the ancient world. Some had holes, clearly showing they were strap-ons.
MJFlores
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Maybe.
Its one of the things, I hate about the Philippines
Government incompetence and slow internet service
MJFlores
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I guess its a United Nations WHO based in the Philippines who gathered the report.
PRESS RELEASE: UNAIDS report indicates new HIV infections in the Philippines have doubled in the past 6 years
The Philippines now has the fastest growing HIV epidemic in Asia and the Pacific
MANILA, 1 August 2017—A UNAIDS Report on the global HIV epidemic states that the number of new infections in the Philippines has more than doubled in the past six (6) years from an estimated 4,300 in 2010 to an estimated 10,500 in 2016 (140% increase). The Philippines has become the country with the fastest growing HIV epidemic in Asia and the Pacific, and has become one of eight countries that account for more than 90% of new HIV infections in the region.
While the country has the fastest growing epidemic in terms of percentage increase, the number of new infections is not as high as several countries in the region which are estimated to have tens of thousands of new infections annually.
“The Philippines has a small window of opportunity to act now and stop a major HIV epidemic from taking hold,” said Eamonn Murphy, Director of UNAIDS Regional Support Team for Asia-Pacific. “If HIV programming is re-directed to focus on the people most at risk and where they are located, I’m sure the country can not only return to a stable situation but even end the AIDS epidemic as a public health threat by 2030.”
While the Philippines has controlled the HIV epidemic among female sex workers, the country noted a shift in the epidemic in 2007, and has therefore scaled-up services tailored to other key risk populations since that time. The Philippine data showed that in 2016, 83% of newly reported HIV cases occurred among males who have sex with males (MSM) and transgender women who have sex with males (TGW). The majority of the new infections are occurring among 15 to 24 year old MSM and TGW. In 2015, only 35% of 15 to 24 year old MSM and TGW had correct knowledge on HIV transmission and prevention. Condom use among MSM and TGW has increased from 36% in 2011 to 50% in 2015. The percentage of MSM and TGW who knew their HIV status by getting tested increased from 5% in 2011 to 16% in 2015; however this still remains low.
Well, by saying the odds are small you are admitting it is a logical possibility, once you have admitted that I will show why it may not be as unlikely as you seem to think, try and be a little open minded
Or so you claim
The world is indeed not black and white but those that say there are shades of grey miss the colour
ecco
Veteran Member
What, exactly are you disagreeing with?
Are you disagreeing that many women who prefer sex with men engage in female/female sexual activities?
Are you disagreeing that many men who prefer sex with women, engage in male/male sexual activities?
If so please explain why.
Bisexuality on the rise, says new U.S. survey - CNN
Bisexuality on the rise, says new U.S. survey
By Carina Storrs, Special to CNN
Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu January 7, 2016
Women were also more likely than men to report having same-sex sexual contact. Compared with 17.4% of women, only 6.2% of men said they had ever had this activity.
If you don't understand the phraseology, that is not my problem.