Homosexuality

[Autodidact]

JM: Did you want to edit that post before someone calls in the mods?

 

[JMorris]

Can we all try to discuss the subject without just hurling insults at each other? It is forum custom. Thanks.

i could spend time trying to put together a well thought out response to the **** he is saying. but i neither have that much time waste, nor am i a masochist. i said all i needed to say. anything more would of been a waste.

 

[JMorris]

JM: Did you want to edit that post before someone calls in the mods?

nah, ill let it stand on its own.

 

[Apollonius]

I take that as a refusal or inability to discuss the subject without resorting to crude and offensive insults?

That is a matter entirely with you.

So the distinction is whether something is perches vs. inserted? So, for example, a thermometer would definitely be out?

Completely irrelevant.

I'm sorry, not my intention. O.K., is it your position that the only morally permissible sex is sexual intercourse?

Not morally but naturally.

In addition, would that be restricted to fertile couples only?

There are certain religious schools, such as among the Buddhists, that view all forms of recreational sex as sin, .. I assure you that I am not as strict in my interpretation of what is and is not permissible in sexual relations.

 

[Apollonius]

JM: Did you want to edit that post before someone calls in the mods?

Although your rebuke is well-intended it's a waste of your time and effort.

 

[Apollonius]

...and, your point? Does the "unnatural" act of some random person stuffing their own glasses up their nose really offend you that much? Enough to pass laws to limit the nose-stuffers rights as human beings?

This doesn't deserve any response, and with that said ..

Just admit that you want to judge people and push your morals on them so they can be validated and you can be right. This is what this is really about.

Such was the rule before I came into the world and so shall it remain long after I leave this world. It's not a matter of who is morally right but rather a matter of who is observant of Nature.

 

[no-body]

This doesn't deserve any response, and with that said ..

Hrm I wonder why you won't even take a second to examine why something that dosen't hurt or effect you one whit bothers you? Threatened by something?

Such was the rule before I came into the world and so shall it remain long after I leave this world. It's not a matter of who is morally right but rather a matter of who is observant of Nature.

By that logic it's "unnatural" to heat up glass fit it into frames and use it to correct someones "natural" vision. Why do you hate people who wear glasses?

 

[rafi]

Humans feel the need to pick a race or group of people and then place all of the world's problems on their shoulders. That's it. Religious individuals in particular crave someone to place "God's blame" on. Unfortunately, right now it seems as if that's the LGBT community. That's why it's important for anyone in that community or any sympathizers to get involved and try to initiate change. This thread and all of the discriminatory laws that are still in place prove the need for help. Religion doesn't give anybody in this country the right to tell others how to live.

 

[Autodidact]

That is a matter entirely with you.

No, actually, your behavior is up to you.

Completely irrelevant.

Then why did you bring it up? Do you find perching your glasses on your nose immoral? If not, why not? You said it was because you don't insert them into your nose. Apparently you now wish to retract that. So why not?

Not morally but naturally.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Isn't any sex without artificial enhancement natural?

There are certain religious schools, such as among the Buddhists, that view all forms of recreational sex as sin, .. I assure you that I am not as strict in my interpretation of what is and is not permissible in sexual relations.

Now you're making no sense. You're fine with non-procreative sex, but you're opposed to homosexuality because it's not procreative? Inconsistent much?

Well, apparently your objection to homosexuality is not that it's not procreative, because you're fine with non-procreative sex. It's not whether it's natural, because you're fine with glasses on noses, and I'm guessing rings on fingers and so forth. It's not whether something's inserted, because that's irrelevant. So apparently it comes down to a personal aversion to anal sex? Is that all it amounts to? Is there any reason why other people should be bound by your tastes and preferences? I assure you I find your sex life absolutely disgusting, but I have no objection to you enjoying it, as long as you don't force me to participate or emulate it.

btw, did you know that anal sex is mostly a heterosexual practice, to a lesser degree a gay male practice, and almost non-existent among lesbians?

 

[Autodidact]

This doesn't deserve any response, and with that said ..

Such was the rule before I came into the world and so shall it remain long after I leave this world. It's not a matter of who is morally right but rather a matter of who is observant of Nature.

Oh, nature. Well it has nothing to do with nature. First, we don't derive our morals from animals, either pro or con; we're human. Second, there's nothing more natural than homosexuality. Also bi-sexuality. So I really don't think either that you want us to conform to nature, or that you're correctly stating what that would entail.

 

[rafi]

Btw, Autodidact, you're my hero

 

[soleil10]

Were someone attempting to stick a computer up their anus then yes that would be perverting the natural use of a computer.
The anus has one singular function and that is for the excretion of waste material, .. any other use is a perversion of it's natural intended purpose.

Apolonius, this religious forum site is full of anti-religious crowd that has nothing to do beside promoting or looking for validation of unhealthy lifestyles.

For some reasons they cant find an atheist forum or a gay forum. They prefer to be here and torment people of faith.

Pretty sad indeed

 

[Autodidact]

*blushes becomingly* [I accept frubals]

 

[Autodidact]

Apolonius, this religious forum site is full of anti-religious crowd that has nothing to do beside promoting or looking for validation of unhealthy lifestyles.

For some reasons they cant find an atheist forum or a gay forum. They prefer to be here and torment people of faith.

Pretty sad indeed

Perhaps you're not aware that this IS an atheist, gay forum. Also a catholic, satanist, hindu, muslim, pantheist, protestant, straight, bisexual, asexual, polyamorous and everything else forum. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in a Christian forum? RF practices equality. Is that a problem for you?

 

[Autodidact]

Apolonius, this religious forum site is full of anti-religious crowd that has nothing to do beside promoting or looking for validation of unhealthy lifestyles.

For some reasons they cant find an atheist forum or a gay forum. They prefer to be here and torment people of faith.

Pretty sad indeed

If you're not enjoying the conversation, may I suggest that you not participate? You have the same option with regard to gay sex.

 

[soleil10]

Perhaps you're not aware that this IS an atheist, gay forum. Also a catholic, satanist, hindu, muslim, pantheist, protestant, straight, bisexual, asexual, polyamorous and everything else forum. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in a Christian forum? RF practices equality. Is that a problem for you?

So Religious Forum is atheist, gay, satanist, polymourous, asexual, bisexual and everything else.....that is a lot of new religions.

So Satan is here too .... That is what I thought.

Thank you for clearing this up.

 

[Autodidact]

So Religious Forum is atheist, gay, satanist, polymourous, asexual bisexual and everything else.....that is a lot of new religions.

So Satan is here too .... That is what I thought.

Thank you for clearing this up.

Glad to help.

 

[Autodidact]

Apolonius, this religious forum site is full of anti-religious crowd that has nothing to do beside promoting or looking for validation of unhealthy lifestyles.

For some reasons they cant find an atheist forum or a gay forum. They prefer to be here and torment people of faith.

Pretty sad indeed

Have you ever noticed that when some people have trouble defending their position, they begin to complain that the other side is allowed to participate?

 

[sonofskeptish]

So Religious Forum is atheist, gay, satanist, polymourous, asexual, bisexual and everything else.....that is a lot of new religions.

So Satan is here too .... That is what I thought.

Thank you for clearing this up.

I continue to be impressed with the wise, thoughtful and insightful satanists and gay people I meet on RF... it's those darn religious bigots that spoil things.

 

[Quagmire]

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So Satan is here too ....

In all of his usual disguises.