Homosexuality

[Autodidact]

That is a good question. I am afraid that if I start on that one, I will spend 2 months on this thread becausethe atmosphere of this forum is not friendly
Same sex attractions are a consequence of the human fall. We have a fallen nature and an original nature. Homosexuality is fundamentally a spiritual problem.

I am sure you are not doing all the things that you are attracted to or would like to do. Why ?
Unless you see clearly that it is wrong, that desire will dominate you and keep coming

On this forum there are people that will support your ss attractions and justify their own. It is not a good place to be for you. This thread attracts also many spirits that are hoping for you to get deeper in the homosexual life style.

Most people are not aware of the spiritual forces around them.

After this post, I will be ridicule, just watch

 

[AxisMundi]

That is a good question. I am afraid that if I start on that one, I will spend 2 months on this thread becausethe atmosphere of this forum is not friendly
Same sex attractions are a consequence of the human fall. We have a fallen nature and an original nature. Homosexuality is fundamentally a spiritual problem.

I am sure you are not doing all the things that you are attracted to or would like to do. Why ?
Unless you see clearly that it is wrong, that desire will dominate you and keep coming

On this forum there are people that will support your ss attractions and justify their own. It is not a good place to be for you. This thread attracts also many spirits that are hoping for you to get deeper in the homosexual life style.

Most people are not aware of the spiritual forces around them.

After this post, I will be ridicule, just watch

Utter ridiculous, unsubstantiated remarks, expect to be ridiculed.

It's a no brainer, really.

 

[soleil10]

What I linked to was an apolitical source not linked to any agenda. Face it, you've got nothing to stand on.

It was a shallow report. I told you why

And 9/11 was carried out by federal agents in black helicopters. Do you, perhaps, feel an inate need to buy a copy of "Catcher in the Rye" when you see them?

Stupid

I'd ask you to prove all of this, but I can expect only the fantasies you've offered to date.
"Christian" marriage remains perfectly uneffected at all in those Nations and US States that have broken with the barbaric mentality you forward, the oppression of a minority.

Do some real research

So some cultures never had polygamy? So Berdache is a made up term and the 1st nations people of the Americas didn't find ss couples abhorent or unnatural? You need to read some history books there, neighbor.

I was talking about marriage in America. Polygamy is illegal. Off course ss "marriage" is the trojan horse

Feel free to point out where I suggested anything concerning "studies" in relation to Prop 8.

For this trail the ss forces admitted that there were no studies for homosexual men parenting and the lesbians studies were limited

BTW, homosexuality occurs in Nature, and has been present in human beings since day one, so it is indeed "natural".

That is such a stupid argument. From now I can do what some animals do and justify myself.

Equality of Marriage laws do not effect anyone's religious freedoms or rights in any manner whatsoever. You have six states to choose from in proving your statements.

Check the court cases. You are wrong once again

Indeed, I am open about my hostility towards bigots and haters. I do not try to hide it behind pseudo-intellectualism as you do, nor do I attempt to explain it away either.

You admit that you are a hater. Calling people who disagree with you haters is part of your hate. It is not healthy for you

 

[Autodidact]

So soleil, I see it's your practice to make unsubstantiated claims?

 

[MSizer]

So soleil, I see it's your practice to make unsubstantiated claims?

...and then "predict" that he will be ridiculed.

 

[AxisMundi]

It was a shallow report. I told you why

Stupid

Do some real research

I was talking about marriage in America. Polygamy is illegal. Off course ss "marriage" is the trojan horse

For this trail the ss forces admitted that there were no studies for homosexual men parenting and the lesbians studies were limited

That is such a stupid argument. From now I can do what some animals do and justify myself.

Check the court cases. You are wrong once again

You admit that you are a hater. Calling people who disagree with you haters is part of your hate. It is not healthy for you

1. It was a simple report totally unrelated to our discussion showing you that in those states that have embraced the American Ideal of Equality, marriage is totally unaffected.

2. Stupid? Any conspiracy theory is stupid.

3. Why should I do you homework for you. Provide links to your "real research" or admit you have no basis for your argument.

4. Polygamy is indeed illegal, now, but it was once legal, not only in those people here before Europeans, but before 1862 as well, before the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Law, a reaction to the growing Mormon religion, was signed into law.

This is also the Trojan horse YOU introduced into this debate as well. We speak of two law abiding, consenting adults wishing to partake of the same legal institution my wife and I enjoyed for over twenty years.

5. What trial? You keep stating something about studies when no studies have been brought up. Again, links, provide them or admit you have nothing.

6. Strawman.

7. Again, I don't have to do your homework for you. You made the proposition, YOU supply evidence. What court cases support your statements that religious freedom & rights have been effected in the six states that allow Equality.

BTW, there is no inherent right to impose your religion on others, if that's the angle you were looking for.

8. People disagree with me all the time. However, when a person advocates oppressing people for no good reason, that is hate, that is intolerance, that is bigotry, and none of those qualities should be tolerated.

The difference between you and I is that you use your hate to justify oppressing a people merely because a natural, inherent, unchangeable quality of that minority attacks your sensibilities, even though providing that minority with Equality of Marriage doesn't effect you in the least.

My hate is in defense of that minority.

 

[AxisMundi]

So soleil, I see it's your practice to make unsubstantiated claims?

That's all the anti-gay community has, I'm afraid.

The refuse to admit that they're entire basis for their agenda is either biblically motivated, or a mere matter of "Ick", and completely lacks any form of substantiation whatsoever.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Same sex attractions are a consequence of the human fall. We have a fallen nature and an original nature. Homosexuality is fundamentally a spiritual problem.

I am sure you are not doing all the things that you are attracted to or would like to do. Why ?
Unless you see clearly that it is wrong, that desire will dominate you and keep coming

On this forum there are people that will support your ss attractions and justify their own. It is not a good place to be for you. This thread attracts also many spirits that are hoping for you to get deeper in the homosexual life style.

Attracts spirits? So are you now attributing homosexuality to demons?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

That's all the anti-gay community has, I'm afraid.

The refuse to admit that they're entire basis for their agenda is either biblically motivated quote]

Course that's all they have is their Bible written by man telling them so, that they think is the word of god.

 

[AxisMundi]

Attracts spirits? So are you now attributing homosexuality to demons?

What I find distrubing is that there are actually people who believe that junk.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

What I find distrubing is that there are actually people who believe that junk.

I do too. They are making absurd statements, like this is the Middle Ages where people believe the flu is caused by demons, LOL.

 

[lupus]

Surely if Soleil10 is so against same sex marriage then no-one here is going to force them to marry someone of the same sex - that would be against his/her nature and would be abhorent to them. This being the case then why is soleil10 trying to 'force' Yosef1986 to go against his nature and 'resist his urges'?

Seriously I do not get this....:areyoucra

 

[no-body]

This thread attracts also many spirits that are hoping for you to get deeper in the homosexual life style.

Never have children. Please.

After this post, I will be ridicule, just watch

Tolerance is one thing but people are free to disagree with your beliefs. This is a big problem Christians have, keeping them from intolerance is some how intolerant. Imagine saying that all black people are representatives of the devil--that's the level of bigoted remark you just made.

 

[MSizer]

Surely if Soleil10 is so against same sex marriage then no-one here is going to force them to marry someone of the same sex - that would be against his/her nature and would be abhorent to them. This being the case then why is soleil10 trying to 'force' Yosef1986 to go against his nature and 'resist his urges'?

Seriously I do not get this....:areyoucra

So true. I think that if Soleil doesn't want Yosef to marry someone of the same sex, then Soleil should show his commitment to his cause and marry someone of the same sex. Then Yosef would not have much of a leg to stand on in opposing Soleil10.

 

[soleil10]

5. What trial? You keep stating something about studies when no studies have been brought up. Again, links, provide them or admit you have nothing.

The prop 8 trial this past January in San Francisco. You have a lot of work to do to catch up

8. People disagree with me all the time. However, when a person advocates oppressing people for no good reason, that is hate, that is intolerance, that is bigotry, and none of those qualities should be tolerated.

ss "marriage" laws promote intolerance. Check the facts

The difference between you and I is that you use your hate to justify oppressing a people merely because a natural, inherent, unchangeable quality of that minority attacks your sensibilities, even though providing that minority with Equality of Marriage doesn't effect you in the least.
My hate is in defense of that minority.

I have not admited to any hate.
I will let you continue to do more research and keep hating if this what you have chosen to do
This thread is exactly what hell is. People accusing each other endlessly 24/7

I have more productive things to do so I will be going.

Wishing you the best.

 

[soleil10]

So true. I think that if Soleil doesn't want Yosef to marry someone of the same sex, then Soleil should show his commitment to his cause and marry someone of the same sex. Then Yosef would not have much of a leg to stand on in opposing Soleil10.

Do you have anything better to do with your life ?

 

[Kerr]

ss "marriage" laws promote intolerance. Check the facts

Quite the opposite. It would be a huge step for tolerance.

 

[Apollonius]

Those wishing to indulge in sin will make every effort to justify their transgressions.

 

[Autodidact]

Those wishing to indulge in sin will make every effort to justify their transgressions.

Is that why you advocate the right to eat pork?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Those wishing to indulge in sin will make every effort to justify their transgressions.

The only reason you think it's a sin is because the Bible says so. Just admit it. You have no other charge to bring against gay people except that your book says being gay is wrong. That's the real crux of the matter