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Horror tv shows for the kids

JoStories

Well-Known Member
I learned to shoot by then.
(I even had my own rifle.)
There is nothing wrong with this.
It's about what you shoot...& don't shoot.
Agreed and I, being raised on a farm in the rural western mountains of Maine, also learned to shoot very early and learned respect for weapons. However, that being said, I have seen far too many kids who either shot themselves in the foot or shot another person because of inept parents who didn't care to teach kids proper use or respect of a gun or rifle. we used them to kill predators of our animals or to kill deer during hunting season, etc. But today, kids in urban areas have guns before 10 and use them inappropriately. In Oakland, I can't tell you how many kids were proud of having shot someone.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Now all these ****s is avaible in Internet , so what the different , now ?
Promoting officially these kind of things to minors on a tv program is only something done by a specific religion called islam. Show me hindu,jain or buddhist shows like these. But pls find and show me and expose them under this thread,then we will know.

I do never say that this is islam and/or islam is bad or good. I say,look what they are doing?
 

picnic

Active Member
I have confidence that atheism will destroy Islam just as it is destroying other religions. All that people need is access to information (such as the internet provides).
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Promoting officially these kind of things to minors on a tv program is only something done by a specific religion called islam. Show me hindu,jain or buddhist shows like these. But pls find and show me and expose them under this thread,then we will know.

I do never say that this is islam and/or islam is bad or good. I say,look what they are doing?
that's Palestinians channel in Gaza i guess ,some people because of "harted" and "hate" war ,
, not Islam channel .

btw
it's not official channel , it's privet channel belong to Hamas ,it's shame for them to that with kids.

I recall :
in 9/11 when Osama attacked US (even i believed it's planed)
there was anti-Muslims speech in West everywhere .

I will not show source of any other religion (just keep it in this small cycle)

the hate speech is everywhere , if you continous follow it , you will damage your trust in every people , except your side .
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
that's Palestinians channel in Gaza i guess ,some people because of "harted" and "hate" war ,
, not Islam channel .

btw
it's not official channel , it's privet channel belong to Hamas .

I recall :
in 9/11 when Osama attacked US (even i believed it's planed)
there was anti-Muslims speech in West everywhere .

I will not show source of any other religion (just keep it in this small cycle)

the hate speech is everywhere , if you continous follow it , you will damage your trust in every people , except your side .
What? that tv show promoted nothing but islamic views according to them. The hate speech is everywhere I know that,pls bring a kids tv show doing this on behalf of religious values. Try to understand what I mean pls.

There is simply no shows likes this for kids from other religions.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Study ''your palestine issues'' very well. I am sure you will agree with me that there is nothing islamic for what they are doing.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
What? that tv show promoted nothing but islamic views according to them. The hate speech is everywhere I know that,pls bring a kids tv show doing this on behalf of religious values. Try to understand what I mean pls.

There is simply no shows likes this for kids from other religions.
listen to me :
people when they get angry will say anything idiot, you will never imagine .

it's Palestinians TV belong to Hamas in Gaza ,most of Televisions in ME are speak by Islamic tongue sometimes , so that tongue of this TV is may reach top sense of angry .

I am against generalizing 100% , but that for sure this video and others are big lesson about generalizing, especially in media .

btw if notice in video ( 4:00) that little girl correct that "idiot", we are not terrorists
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
WELL FOR ONE, THERE IS A STARK DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING A PARTICULAR BEHAVIOR AND/OR PROPAGANDA AND MERELY DEPICTING SOMETHING.
NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUR DOES NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW AN ORGANISATION SIMILAR TO BIG BROTHER. ROMEO AND JULIETTE DOES NOT TEACH PEOPLE TO COMMIT DOUBLE SUICIDE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE WITH YOUR "ONE TRUE LOVE."
TV SHOWS LIKE THE BLACKLIST DO NOT INSTRUCT IT'S AUDIENCE TO BECOME MASTER CRIMINALS. SCANDAL DOES NOT TELL ANYONE TO COMMIT CRIMES OR EXTREME SOCIAL FAU PAS ONLY TO CALL IN PROFESSIONALS TO HIDE THEM FROM THE PUBLIC. HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER DOES NOT SAY TO PEOPLE, HEY BECOME A LAWYER, ACCIDENTALLY KILL SOMEONE AND THEN USE YOUR SKILLS TO TRY TO ELUDE PUNISHMENT.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DEPICT SOMETHING "BAD" EVEN IF THAT "BAD" WINS, DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE ENCOURAGING THAT "BAD." YOU ARE TELLING A STORY RATHER OBJECTIVELY AND LETTING THE AUDIENCE INTERPRET THE MESSAGE. BUT THE INTERPRETATION IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUDIENCE. NOT THE CREATOR. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS PROPAGANDA, WHICH ACTIVELY MANIPULATES IT'S AUDIENCE TO REACH A VERY SPECIFIC CONCLUSION. THIS OFTEN RESULTS IN ELICITING HATRED OR PROMOTING MISINFORMATION AND IGNORANCE. TO SAY THEY ARE THE SAME IS TO IGNORE VERY BASIC DECONSTRUCTION OF NARRATIVE TECHNIQUES WHICH ARE, QUITE FRANKLY, TAUGHT TO CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 7! (NOT HAVING A GO AT YOU, JUST SAYING.)

NOW WHILST I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT NO ONE UNDER LIKE 15 SHOULD BE PLAYING GOD OF WAR OR WORLD OF WARCRAFT, HOW DOES EITHER GAME TEACH HATRED "OR WORSE" SPECIFICALLY?
TO BE HONEST, GOD OF WAR IS ACTUALLY TAMER THAN LEGITIMATE ANCIENT GREEK/ROMAN MYTHOLOGY. WHICH SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO TEACH THEIR KIDS.

NOW I GREW UP WATCHING VARIOUS RELIGIOUS MEDIA, FROM BOTH THE HINDU PHILOSOPHY AND THE CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC DOCTRINE. USUALLY MADE EXPLICITLY FOR CHILDREN. AND THEY WERE OFTEN VIVIDLY VIOLENT. BUT NONE OF THEM ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED ME OR TAUGHT ME TO BE VIOLENT. BECAUSE THEY WERE MORALITY TALES, MORE OR LESS.
NEITHER DID THE VIDEO GAMES I WAS PLAYING AS A KID TEACH OR ENCOURAGE ME TO BE VIOLENT. NOW MIND YOU THIS WAS DURING THE 90S WHEN THE DEVS WERE TRYING TO PROVE THEY COULD DO ADULT CONTENT AND GOING ALL OUT TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES. TWAS ALSO THE TIME WHEN PARENTALS WERE NOT ACUTELY AWARE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AGE OR THE CONCEPT OF VIDEO GAMES BEING FOR AN EXCLUSIVE ADULT AUDIENCE. AS SUCH MY MOTHER WAS QUITE OUT OF THE LOOP WHEN SHE ALLOWED ME TO PLAY THE GAMES I WAS PLAYING. LIKE DOOM, THE ENTIRE GTA FRANCHISE, MANHUNT, GOLDENEYE ETC ETC.
AND IF WE'RE DAMNING VIOLENCE IN THE MEDIA, WHAT ABOUT THE LOONEY TUNES? FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS NO LESS! FAIRY TALES, FOR THE LAST FEW CENTURIES, ARE VERY VERY VIOLENT.
BOOKS ARE JUST AS IF NOT MORE VIOLENT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE VERY DESCRIPTIVE BY DEFAULT. ROALD DAHL, CONSIDERED TO BE AN INFLUENTIAL FIGURE IN CHILDREN'S LITERATURE (SO MUCH SO THAT HE IS ACTIVELY TAUGHT IN PRIMARY/ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ENGLISH CLASSES) IS ALMOST RENOWNED FOR HIS VERY VIVID PORTRAYALS OF VIOLENCE IN HIS STORIES. EVEN DEATH OCCURS IN HIS BOOKS. BUT READING EVERY DAHL BOOK I COULD AS A YOUNGSTER NEVER MADE ME PRONE TO OR TAUGHT ME TO BE VIOLENT. BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THAT WAS A PROMINENT PART OF HIS STORIES, THEY WERE MERELY DEPICTIONS. AND THERE WAS A LARGER NARRATIVE (POINT) TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS BOOKS.

SEE STATEMENTS LIKE "VIDEO GAMES ARE ENCOURAGING KIDS TO BE VIOLENT" IS TOO BROAD, IT'S TOO EASY TO APPLY TO LITERALLY EVERY TYPE OF MEDIA AVAILABLE, WHETHER THEY BE INTENDED FOR AN ADULT AUDIENCE OR CHILDREN OR EVEN FOR EVERYONE. IT'S JUST A BUZZPHRASE (IS THAT A WORD? OH WELL I'M GOING WITH IT ANYWAY.) IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR NUANCE OR CONTEXT OR FACTORS SUCH AS STORYTELLING OR EVEN IF PUNISHMENT IS ISSUED FOR A CERTAIN VIOLENT ACT.

ALRIGHT I'VE RANTED OFF TOPIC FOR FAR TOO LONG. AS FOR THE OP, THAT IS TRULY HEARTBREAKING TO SEE.

(EDITED IN A LARGER PRINT FOR YOUR BENEFIT, JO. :))
There is a video game out there called "Hatred" which openly teaches racism and hatred of those not of the white race. I will have to get back to this. Have a medical issue with mom....
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
There is a video game out there called "Hatred" which openly teaches racism and hatred of those not of the white race. I will have to get back to this. Have a medical issue with mom....
EXCEPT THAT IT DOESN'T. YOU PLAY AS A SOCIOPATH, WITHOUT CONTEXT AND YOU KILL INDISCRIMINATELY. IT'S BEEN LABELLED AS "BORING" BY CRITICS. MERELY SHOWING VIOLENCE OR HAVE YOU PLAY AS A KILLER DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. IT DOESN'T TEACH ANYTHING, IT DOESN'T INFLUENCE YOU TO DO ANYTHING. IT'S LARGELY BANAL. TO BE HONEST IT'S HARDLY WORTH EVEN GLANCING AT. POSTAL DOES THE SAME THING (EVEN THOUGH IT CAME OUT LIKE 10 OR SO YEARS AGO) ONLY BETTER. WELL "BETTER" IN THE SENSE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS SOME SORT OF GOAL.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, GAMERS (EVEN REALLY YOUNG GAMERS) ARE MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN BEAVIS AND BUTTEAD.
AND CHILDREN ARE NOT SO SO STUPID AS TO GO OUT KILLING PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN WHICH THEY KILLED PEOPLE. KIDS ARE QUITE THE DISCERNING AUDIENCE. NOT THAT IT MATTERS, HATRED IS CLEARLY TARGETED AND MARKETED AT A STRICTLY ADULT AUDIENCE. I MEAN, QUINTEN TARINTINO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING KIDS VIOLENCE, IN FACT HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING KIDS ANYTHING. HE MAKES ADULT MEDIA, IT'S ON THE PARENTS WHETHER OR NOT THEY EXPOSE THEIR KID/S TO IT.

ALSO I HOPE YOU GET YOUR MEDICAL ISSUE SORTED OUT SOON.
 
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JoStories

Well-Known Member
EXCEPT THAT IT DOESN'T. YOU PLAY AS A SOCIOPATH, WITHOUT CONTEXT AND YOU KILL INDISCRIMINATELY. IT'S BEEN LABELLED AS "BORING" BY CRITICS. MERELY SHOWING VIOLENCE OR HAVE YOU PLAY AS A KILLER DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. IT DOESN'T TEACH ANYTHING, IT DOESN'T INFLUENCE YOU TO DO ANYTHING. IT'S LARGELY BANAL. TO BE HONEST IT'S HARDLY WORTH EVEN GLANCING AT. POSTAL DOES THE SAME THING (EVEN THOUGH IT CAME OUT LIKE 10 OR SO YEARS AGO) ONLY BETTER. WELL "BETTER" IN THE SENSE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS SOME SORT OF GOAL.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, GAMERS (EVEN REALLY YOUNG GAMERS) ARE MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN BEAVIS AND BUTTEAD.
AND CHILDREN ARE NOT SO SO STUPID AS TO GO OUT KILLING PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY PLAYED A GAME IN WHICH THEY KILLED PEOPLE. KIDS ARE QUITE THE DISCERNING AUDIENCE. NOT THAT IT MATTERS, HATRED IS CLEARLY TARGETED AND MARKETED AT A STRICTLY ADULT AUDIENCE. I MEAN, QUINTEN TARINTINO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING KIDS VIOLENCE, IN FACT HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING KIDS ANYTHING. HE MAKES ADULT MEDIA, IT'S ON THE PARENTS WHETHER OR NOT THEY EXPOSE THEIR KID/S TO IT.

ALSO I HOPE YOU GET YOUR MEDICAL ISSUE SORTED OUT SOON.
And yet there was a case just recently that a young girl killed her family due to a video game. Some dark goth thing that had slasher horror stuff all over it. This is not the only case either. Daniel Petric, Aaron Hamel, Alayiah Turman, and so on. Those are just a few Some. If I were having children today, I would not allow video games, nor would I let my children have cellphones or to be online constantly. Whatever happened to going outside to play?? Or simply reading a book? Ask a kid today any classic literature title and they have no idea. Hell, most cannot even count without the aid of a PC. And thanks about Mom. She fell and broke some bones.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
And yet there was a case just recently that a young girl killed her family due to a video game. Some dark goth thing that had slasher horror stuff all over it. This is not the only case either. Daniel Petric, Aaron Hamel, Alayiah Turman, and so on. Those are just a few Some. If I were having children today, I would not allow video games, nor would I let my children have cellphones or to be online constantly. Whatever happened to going outside to play?? Or simply reading a book? Ask a kid today any classic literature title and they have no idea. Hell, most cannot even count without the aid of a PC. And thanks about Mom. She fell and broke some bones.

HOPE YOUR MUM IS OKAY!

YEAH AND EVERY TIME A MEDIUM IS NEW, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS ACCUSE IT OF CAUSING CORRUPTION.
IT'S NOT LIKE THERE WERE HOMOPHOBIC BASHINGS/KILLINGS, BLACK BASHINGS/KILLINGS AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER HORRIBLE CRIMES COMMITTED BY YOUNG PEOPLE BEFORE VIDEO GAMES WERE INVENTED.

AND YOU DO REALIZE OF COURSE THAT IN SPITE OF THE NUMBERS OF GAMERS INCREASING BY WHAT? 1000% OR SOMETHING OVER THE LAST DECADE, THAT YOUTH VIOLENCE IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...t-video-games-and-youth-violence-9851613.html

THE NEWS HAS THIS BAD HABIT OF PAINTING VIDEO GAMES AS EVIL. AND THEIR LINKING THE GAME TO BE THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF WHATEVER CRIME IS OFTEN, FRANKLY, DISHONEST ON THEIR PART.

DANIEL PETRIC, IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SOCIOPATH? NAH, HE WAS JUST A MIME WHO MIMICKED EVERYTHING HE EVER SAW. JESUS THE LINK IS SHAKY AT BEST.

AARON HAMEL? SURE LET'S JUST BLAME GTA SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT WAS HIS STATE OF MIND ON A NORMAL DAY? WHY HIS PARENTS WILLINGLY ALLOWED HIM TO PLAY A GAME THEY KNEW WAS RATED FOR A MATURE AUDIENCE? DID HE HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE? DID HE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RECOGNIZING REALITY (WHICH IS ACTUALLY A MENTAL ILLNESS.) NAH, IT'S THE EBIL GAMES.

Alayiah Turman? AN ABUSIVE SCUMBAG BEATS A CHILD TO DEATH AND HE CLAIMED IT WAS BECAUSE SHE "BROKE HIS BROTHER'S 600$ XBOX AND HE COULDN'T PAY IT BACK?" EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T BELIEVE THE WORD OF A PIECE OF **** WHO WOULD CRACK THE SKULL OF A TODDLER. IMO HE WAS JUST GIVING AN EXCUSE FOR HIS HEINOUS ACT.

READING CLASSICAL LITERATURE YOU SAY? YEAH, THAT'S NOT EVER VIOLENT OR ANYTHING
OFF THE TOP OFF MY HEAD.
TITUS ANDRONICUS BY WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. MULTIPLE RITUALISTIC SACRIFICES, RAPE, MUTILATION, TORTURE, MURDER (AND THE RAPED WOMAN IS LATER KILLED BY HER OWN FATHER, JUST FYI) AND EVEN A YO MOMMA JOKE! IN FACT SHAKESPEARE'S PLAYS USUALLY HAVE RAPE, MURDER, **** SHAMING OR ALL THREE AS PLOT DEVICES!

PERFUME BY PATRICK SUSKIND, ABOUT A MAN WHO KILLS PEOPLE IN HIS QUEST TO CREATE THE PERFECT SCENT.

LES MISERABLES BY VICTOR HUGO AND HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME. SET DURING A FRENCH REVOLUTION AND ABOUT THE CORRUPTION OF THE CHURCH. NEED I SAY MORE?

THE ENTIRE LIBERTINE MOVEMENT OF THE 1700S AND THE LITERATURE THAT THEY WROTE. JUST.......ALL OF IT.

HOMER'S ODYSSEY. MUTILATION, MURDER, ORGIES AND SEX SLAVES

1001 ARABIAN NIGHTS. TWO SULTANS FIND THAT THEIR WIVES AND CONCUBINES ARE HAVING ORGIES WITHOUT THEM. THEY WANDER OFF DISMAYED AT THE DISHONOR OF IT. THEY FIND A "DJINN" WITH A BEAUTIFUL SEX SLAVE/WIFE HE KEEPS IN A LOCKED CHEST. SHE RAPES BOTH OF THEM WHILE HER HUSBAND SLEEPS, THEY THEN COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IF EVEN A POWERFUL DJINN CAN'T KEEP AN HONEST WOMAN, NO WOMAN IS HONEST. THEY BOTH GO HOME AND SLAUGHTER ALL THEIR CONCUBINES AND WIVES. AND THAT'S ONLY THE PREFACE!

DANTE'S INFERNO. I DO NOT RECOMMEND KIDS READ THAT UNTIL SENIOR CLASSES, BECAUSE WHENEVER SOMEONE YOUNGER THAN 15 READS IT, THEY SEEM TO BE HORRIFIED BEYOND BELIEF BY IT'S PORTRAYAL OF THE NINE CIRCLES OF HELL AND THE TORTURES THAT EACH CIRCLE ENDURES.

CLASSICAL GREEK/ROMAN MYTHOLOGY. INCEST, BESTIALITY, KILLING SPREES, LET'S BE HONEST, TORTURE (LOOKING AT YOU POOR
HERACLES/HERCULES.)

A CLOCKWORK ORANGE BY ANTHONY BURGESS. HYPERVIOLENCE, RAPE AND CLASSICAL MUSIC.

HELL EVEN CLASSICAL CHILDREN'S LITERATURE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF DEATH!
BEATRIX POTTER IS BANNED, BANNED IN SOME KINDERGARTENS BECAUSE IN THE TALE OF JEMIMA PUDDLE DUCK, NEAR THE END HER EGGS ARE EATEN (COMPLETE WITH PICTURE) BY TWO FOX HOUND PUPPIES. EVEN WHEN SHE GETS HER HAPPY ENDING THE BOOK EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT NOT ALL OF HER EGGS HATCHED. IN TALES FEATURING PETER RABBIT AND THE FLOPSY BUNNIES, THE DIALOGUE CONSTANTLY INFORMS YOU THAT MR MCGREGOR, IF GIVEN HALF THE CHANCE, WILL PUT THE CHARACTERS IN A PIE AND EAT THEM.
THE TALE OF THE ROLY POLY PUDDING. ABOUT A RAT COUPLE TRYING TO BAKE AND EAT A KITTEN.

OH AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY CHILDHOOD. THE ANIMALS OF FARTHING WOODS TV SHOW. GOOD LORD, WHO DIDN'T DIE WOULD BE A SHORTER LIST IN THAT SHOW!
(SKIP AHEAD TO 19:50 FOR THE MORE MEMORABLE SCENES OF THIS CHILDREN'S SHOW. IF YOU DARE.)
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
HOPE YOUR MUM IS OKAY!

YEAH AND EVERY TIME A MEDIUM IS NEW, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS ACCUSE IT OF CAUSING CORRUPTION.
IT'S NOT LIKE THERE WERE HOMOPHOBIC BASHINGS/KILLINGS, BLACK BASHINGS/KILLINGS AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER HORRIBLE CRIMES COMMITTED BY YOUNG PEOPLE BEFORE VIDEO GAMES WERE INVENTED.

AND YOU DO REALIZE OF COURSE THAT IN SPITE OF THE NUMBERS OF GAMERS INCREASING BY WHAT? 1000% OR SOMETHING OVER THE LAST DECADE, THAT YOUTH VIOLENCE IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...t-video-games-and-youth-violence-9851613.html

THE NEWS HAS THIS BAD HABIT OF PAINTING VIDEO GAMES AS EVIL. AND THEIR LINKING THE GAME TO BE THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF WHATEVER CRIME IS OFTEN, FRANKLY, DISHONEST ON THEIR PART.

DANIEL PETRIC, IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SOCIOPATH? NAH, HE WAS JUST A MIME WHO MIMICKED EVERYTHING HE EVER SAW. JESUS THE LINK IS SHAKY AT BEST.

AARON HAMEL? SURE LET'S JUST BLAME GTA SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT WAS HIS STATE OF MIND ON A NORMAL DAY? WHY HIS PARENTS WILLINGLY ALLOWED HIM TO PLAY A GAME THEY KNEW WAS RATED FOR A MATURE AUDIENCE? DID HE HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE? DID HE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RECOGNIZING REALITY (WHICH IS ACTUALLY A MENTAL ILLNESS.) NAH, IT'S THE EBIL GAMES.

Alayiah Turman? AN ABUSIVE SCUMBAG BEATS A CHILD TO DEATH AND HE CLAIMED IT WAS BECAUSE SHE "BROKE HIS BROTHER'S 600$ XBOX AND HE COULDN'T PAY IT BACK?" EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T BELIEVE THE WORD OF A PIECE OF **** WHO WOULD CRACK THE SKULL OF A TODDLER. IMO HE WAS JUST GIVING AN EXCUSE FOR HIS HEINOUS ACT.

READING CLASSICAL LITERATURE YOU SAY? YEAH, THAT'S NOT EVER VIOLENT OR ANYTHING
OFF THE TOP OFF MY HEAD.
TITUS ANDRONICUS BY WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. MULTIPLE RITUALISTIC SACRIFICES, RAPE, MUTILATION, TORTURE, MURDER (AND THE RAPED WOMAN IS LATER KILLED BY HER OWN FATHER, JUST FYI) AND EVEN A YO MOMMA JOKE! IN FACT SHAKESPEARE'S PLAYS USUALLY HAVE RAPE, MURDER, **** SHAMING OR ALL THREE AS PLOT DEVICES!

PERFUME BY PATRICK SUSKIND, ABOUT A MAN WHO KILLS PEOPLE IN HIS QUEST TO CREATE THE PERFECT SCENT.

LES MISERABLES BY VICTOR HUGO AND HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME. SET DURING A FRENCH REVOLUTION AND ABOUT THE CORRUPTION OF THE CHURCH. NEED I SAY MORE?

THE ENTIRE LIBERTINE MOVEMENT OF THE 1700S AND THE LITERATURE THAT THEY WROTE. JUST.......ALL OF IT.

HOMER'S ODYSSEY. MUTILATION, MURDER, ORGIES AND SEX SLAVES

1001 ARABIAN NIGHTS. TWO SULTANS FIND THAT THEIR WIVES AND CONCUBINES ARE HAVING ORGIES WITHOUT THEM. THEY WANDER OFF DISMAYED AT THE DISHONOR OF IT. THEY FIND A "DJINN" WITH A BEAUTIFUL SEX SLAVE/WIFE HE KEEPS IN A LOCKED CHEST. SHE RAPES BOTH OF THEM WHILE HER HUSBAND SLEEPS, THEY THEN COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IF EVEN A POWERFUL DJINN CAN'T KEEP AN HONEST WOMAN, NO WOMAN IS HONEST. THEY BOTH GO HOME AND SLAUGHTER ALL THEIR CONCUBINES AND WIVES. AND THAT'S ONLY THE PREFACE!

DANTE'S INFERNO. I DO NOT RECOMMEND KIDS READ THAT UNTIL SENIOR CLASSES, BECAUSE WHENEVER SOMEONE YOUNGER THAN 15 READS IT, THEY SEEM TO BE HORRIFIED BEYOND BELIEF BY IT'S PORTRAYAL OF THE NINE CIRCLES OF HELL AND THE TORTURES THAT EACH CIRCLE ENDURES.

CLASSICAL GREEK/ROMAN MYTHOLOGY. INCEST, BESTIALITY, KILLING SPREES, LET'S BE HONEST, TORTURE (LOOKING AT YOU POOR
HERACLES/HERCULES.)

A CLOCKWORK ORANGE BY ANTHONY BURGESS. HYPERVIOLENCE, RAPE AND CLASSICAL MUSIC.

HELL EVEN CLASSICAL CHILDREN'S LITERATURE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF DEATH!
BEATRIX POTTER IS BANNED, BANNED IN SOME KINDERGARTENS BECAUSE IN THE TALE OF JEMIMA PUDDLE DUCK, NEAR THE END HER EGGS ARE EATEN (COMPLETE WITH PICTURE) BY TWO FOX HOUND PUPPIES. EVEN WHEN SHE GETS HER HAPPY ENDING THE BOOK EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT NOT ALL OF HER EGGS HATCHED. IN TALES FEATURING PETER RABBIT AND THE FLOPSY BUNNIES, THE DIALOGUE CONSTANTLY INFORMS YOU THAT MR MCGREGOR, IF GIVEN HALF THE CHANCE, WILL PUT THE CHARACTERS IN A PIE AND EAT THEM.
THE TALE OF THE ROLY POLY PUDDING. ABOUT A RAT COUPLE TRYING TO BAKE AND EAT A KITTEN.

OH AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY CHILDHOOD. THE ANIMALS OF FARTHING WOODS TV SHOW. GOOD LORD, WHO DIDN'T DIE WOULD BE A SHORTER LIST IN THAT SHOW!
(SKIP AHEAD TO 19:50 FOR THE MORE MEMORABLE SCENES OF THIS CHILDREN'S SHOW. IF YOU DARE.)
Some, I just love your passion about things. Its kind of nice reading someone who disagrees but does it so terribly nicely to boot. I wasn't pointing out anything more about classic literature save that kids today don't know any of it. I agree some is incredibly violent and so on. I don't have an issue with that. My problem as I was trying to point out is that kids today don't even know of any of those. Let alone have read them. If it isn't in a movie, they don't give a damn. Ask a kid today where the Ural mountains are and they will look at you like you have three heads. Or to name 3 of the signers of the DOI. That is my issue Some. Not that they are violent.
As for those people, you could be right. It could have been mental health issues. I don't disagree with you. And its clear from the number of school shootings we have now that our mental health system sucks. We have to out source everyone and that leaves them on the street, most of the time with no meds. But my issue is that kids are way too plugged into technology to the exclusion of a good solid education. That, at least for me, is a very big down side. Also, patients that I have treated absolutely hate that doctors and nurses sit and look at PC screens and don't talk to the patients anymore. What the hell would happen if all the technology crashed?? We would be in a serious world of hurt. Kids would not know what to do with themselves minus their cellphones. And there are clear and documented cases of health issues related to these things as well.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Some, I just love your passion about things. Its kind of nice reading someone who disagrees but does it so terribly nicely to boot. I wasn't pointing out anything more about classic literature save that kids today don't know any of it. I agree some is incredibly violent and so on. I don't have an issue with that. My problem as I was trying to point out is that kids today don't even know of any of those. Let alone have read them. If it isn't in a movie, they don't give a damn. Ask a kid today where the Ural mountains are and they will look at you like you have three heads. Or to name 3 of the signers of the DOI. That is my issue Some. Not that they are violent.
As for those people, you could be right. It could have been mental health issues. I don't disagree with you. And its clear from the number of school shootings we have now that our mental health system sucks. We have to out source everyone and that leaves them on the street, most of the time with no meds. But my issue is that kids are way too plugged into technology to the exclusion of a good solid education. That, at least for me, is a very big down side. Also, patients that I have treated absolutely hate that doctors and nurses sit and look at PC screens and don't talk to the patients anymore. What the hell would happen if all the technology crashed?? We would be in a serious world of hurt. Kids would not know what to do with themselves minus their cellphones. And there are clear and documented cases of health issues related to these things as well.

WELL THAT'S MORE THE FAULT OF THE ADULTS, ISN'T IT? CLASSICAL LITERATURE IS WONDERFUL AND GROTESQUE AND AWE INSPIRING AND ALL THAT ****. BUT ADULTS REVERE IT. THEY PUT THEM ON A PEDESTAL, THEY DENIGRATE KIDS FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MEDIA. THEY DEMAND THAT THESE BOOKS ARE AWESOME BUT TEACH THEM IN A WAY WHICH IGNORES THEIR MORE VULGAR AND INTERESTING ASPECTS.
THEN YOU COUPLE THAT WITH JUST CHUCKING THEM HEAD FIRST INTO IT. PERHAPS A GOOD WAY IS TO ENGAGE KIDS INSTEAD OF TUT TUTING THEIR LACK OF LOVE FOR BOOKS.
READ/WATCH WHAT THEY FIND INTERESTING THEN READ A BOOK THAT IS SIMILAR TOGETHER SO YOU CAN LAUGH/LOVE OR HATE/MOCK IT TOGETHER. MAKE IT RELATABLE FOR THEM.
TAKE THOSE BOOKS OFF THAT HIGHLY INTELLECTUAL NONSENSE AWARD SHELF, SHOW THEM THAT THEY'RE JUST BOOKS. SOME GOOD SOME BAD, BUT INTERESTING NONETHELESS.
INSTILL IN THEM A LOVE OF STORIES AT A YOUNG AGE. EVEN READING BEDTIME STORIES OR GETTING THE KID TO MAKE THEIR OWN UP EVERY NIGHT BEFORE BED IS A GOOD TACTIC.
MAKE IT SEEM LESS DAUNTING. START WITH MODERN CLASSIC AUTHORS SUCH AS KAFKA OR ORWELL, AUTHORS WHO ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
NONE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY. I GREW UP ON THE INTERNET FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND I AM JUST AS PASSIONATE ABOUT GAMING AS I AM LITERATURE, MOVIES, TV SHOWS AND (AT LEAST SOME) ART. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT IT IS MADE FOR ME TO ENGAGE WITH, INSTEAD OF BEING DISMISSED JUST BECAUSE OF MY DISRESPECTFUL YOUTHFUL WAYS AND SHOUTED AT FOR NOT "GETTING INSERT CLASSIC AUTHOR HERE" (THOUGH THAT COULD BE BECAUSE A LOT OF MY COUSINS JUST HAPPEN TO BE ENGLISH TEACHERS AND WERE ALREADY ARMED WITH SURREPTITIOUS TACTICS TO ELICIT A LOVE OF LITERATURE IN KIDS.)
I MEAN EVEN BOOK LOVERS ENGAGE ACTIVELY WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL AGE. THERE ARE MANY BOOK LOVING/DISCUSSION CHANNELS ON YOUTUBE (DUBBED BOOKTUBE) THAT YOU CAN INTRODUCE KIDS TO. THESE CHANNELS ARE OFTEN DONE BY YOUNG PEOPLE, GIVING A YOUTHFUL HONEST PERSPECTIVE THAT IS FAR MORE APPEALING THAN BEING LECTURED TO BY DISAPPROVING ADULTS. MANY OF THEM FOCUS ON YA, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. (IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S LIMITED, NOT THAT YA IS BAD.) BUT THERE ARE CHANNELS WHICH DO GIVE OPINIONS, DISCUSSION STARTERS AND EVEN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CLASSIC BOOKS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD TACTIC TO ENGAGE TEENS WITH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE GIVING REAL HONEST OPINIONS, INSTEAD OF REGURGITATED PRAISE AND TAUGHT REVERENCE GIVEN BY THE LIT SNOBS.
THEN OF COURSE THE SITE GOODREADS. WHICH ENCOURAGES KIDS TO VOICE THEIR OWN OPINION ABOUT THINGS, WHICH AGAIN, IS FAR MORE HELPFUL THAN LAMENTING THEIR ADDICTION TO GADGETS.

TEENAGERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ALOOF AND APATHETIC, THAT'S JUST HOW YOUTH IS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T STILL BE ENGAGED LIKE THINKING PEOPLE. YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO TRAVERSE THEIR WORLD AND MEET THEM IN TODAY'S LIFESTYLE.
 
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JoStories

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WELL THAT'S MORE THE FAULT OF THE ADULTS, ISN'T IT? CLASSICAL LITERATURE IS WONDERFUL AND GROTESQUE AND AWE INSPIRING AND ALL THAT ****. BUT ADULTS REVERE IT. THEY PUT THEM ON A PEDESTAL, THEY DENIGRATE KIDS FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MEDIA. THEY DEMAND THAT THESE BOOKS ARE AWESOME BUT TEACH THEM IN A WAY WHICH IGNORES THEIR MORE VULGAR AND INTERESTING ASPECTS.
THEN YOU COUPLE THAT WITH JUST CHUCKING THEM HEAD FIRST INTO IT. PERHAPS A GOOD WAY IS TO ENGAGE KIDS INSTEAD OF TUT TUTING THEIR LACK OF LOVE FOR BOOKS.
READ/WATCH WHAT THEY FIND INTERESTING THEN READ A BOOK THAT IS SIMILAR TOGETHER SO YOU CAN LAUGH/LOVE OR HATE/MOCK IT TOGETHER. MAKE IT RELATABLE FOR THEM.
TAKE THOSE BOOKS OFF THAT HIGHLY INTELLECTUAL NONSENSE AWARD SHELF, SHOW THEM THAT THEY'RE JUST BOOKS. SOME GOOD SOME BAD, BUT INTERESTING NONETHELESS.
INSTILL IN THEM A LOVE OF STORIES AT A YOUNG AGE. EVEN READING BEDTIME STORIES OR GETTING THE KID TO MAKE THEIR OWN UP EVERY NIGHT BEFORE BED IS A GOOD TACTIC.
MAKE IT SEEM LESS DAUNTING. START WITH MODERN CLASSIC AUTHORS SUCH AS KAFKA OR ORWELL, AUTHORS WHO ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
NONE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY. I GREW UP ON THE INTERNET FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND I AM JUST AS PASSIONATE ABOUT GAMING AS I AM LITERATURE, MOVIES, TV SHOWS AND (AT LEAST SOME) ART. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT IT IS MADE FOR ME TO ENGAGE WITH, INSTEAD OF BEING DISMISSED JUST BECAUSE OF MY DISRESPECTFUL YOUTHFUL WAYS AND SHOUTED AT FOR NOT "GETTING INSERT CLASSIC AUTHOR HERE" (THOUGH THAT COULD BE BECAUSE A LOT OF MY COUSINS JUST HAPPEN TO BE ENGLISH TEACHERS AND WERE ALREADY ARMED WITH SURREPTITIOUS TACTICS TO ELICIT A LOVE OF LITERATURE IN KIDS.)
I MEAN EVEN BOOK LOVERS ENGAGE ACTIVELY WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL AGE. THERE ARE MANY BOOK LOVING/DISCUSSION CHANNELS ON YOUTUBE (DUBBED BOOKTUBE) THAT YOU CAN INTRODUCE KIDS TO. THESE CHANNELS ARE OFTEN DONE BY YOUNG PEOPLE, GIVING A YOUTHFUL HONEST PERSPECTIVE THAT IS FAR MORE APPEALING THAN BEING LECTURED TO BY DISAPPROVING ADULTS. MANY OF THEM FOCUS ON YA, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. (IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S LIMITED, NOT THAT YA IS BAD.) BUT THERE ARE CHANNELS WHICH DO GIVE OPINIONS, DISCUSSION STARTERS AND EVEN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CLASSIC BOOKS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD TACTIC TO ENGAGE TEENS WITH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE GIVING REAL HONEST OPINIONS, INSTEAD OF REGURGITATED PRAISE AND TAUGHT REVERENCE GIVEN BY THE LIT SNOBS.
THEN OF COURSE THE SITE GOODREADS. WHICH ENCOURAGES KIDS TO VOICE THEIR OWN OPINION ABOUT THINGS, WHICH AGAIN, IS FAR MORE HELPFUL THAN LAMENTING THEIR ADDICTION TO GADGETS.

TEENAGERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ALOOF AND APATHETIC, THAT'S JUST HOW YOUTH IS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T STILL BE ENGAGED LIKE THINKING PEOPLE. YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO TRAVERSE THEIR WORLD AND MEET THEM IN TODAY'S LIFESTYLE.
I definitely agree its the fault of the parents Some. I read all kinds of classics to my children from the age of birth. We had a nightly ritual of reading one of those books. I started with things like William Goldman or L Frank Baum but then as they grew, graduated to more serious books and they loved it. When my partner's eye sight failed due to diabetes, I read the books to her. I agree with you about having the books as you mention above but I also know far too many who have never read any of the classics. And not even have ever heard of them. I have about 75 leather bound versions of some of the world's best literature. A gift I intend to pass on to my sister's son and his wife and kids. But as for technology, we are going to have to agree to disagree dear one. I continue to see it as not the best thing for kids. It has the effect of causing social isolation, IMO. Kids no longer talk to each other unless through texting. I am reminded of a line from Contact when Palmer Joss ask are we a fundamentally happier people because of technology and goes on to talk about the social isolation I am discussing here.
 

morphesium

Active Member
Promoting officially these kind of things to minors on a tv program is only something done by a specific religion called islam. Show me hindu,jain or buddhist shows like these. But pls find and show me and expose them under this thread,then we will know.

I do never say that this is islam and/or islam is bad or good. I say,look what they are doing?
One of the major problem with islam is that their religious leaders have too much money in their hands - from zakat, from muslim donations, from oil etc. With this money they corrupt the politics in your area and take the media in their hands. With this, they make the situation amiable for their "growth" and they train their young brains to be dormant extremists.

Once they gain a major share in population, they will try to eradicate other non-muslims. Because they have an agenda with in their Quran - make the whole world muslims!. They are moving with such a motive - intellectually, strategically, economically,population wise, etc,etc. Today's "peaceful islam" is tomorrows terror.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I definitely agree its the fault of the parents Some. I read all kinds of classics to my children from the age of birth. We had a nightly ritual of reading one of those books. I started with things like William Goldman or L Frank Baum but then as they grew, graduated to more serious books and they loved it. When my partner's eye sight failed due to diabetes, I read the books to her. I agree with you about having the books as you mention above but I also know far too many who have never read any of the classics. And not even have ever heard of them. I have about 75 leather bound versions of some of the world's best literature. A gift I intend to pass on to my sister's son and his wife and kids. But as for technology, we are going to have to agree to disagree dear one. I continue to see it as not the best thing for kids. It has the effect of causing social isolation, IMO. Kids no longer talk to each other unless through texting. I am reminded of a line from Contact when Palmer Joss ask are we a fundamentally happier people because of technology and goes on to talk about the social isolation I am discussing here.

SEE THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH. MY FATHER USED TO RECITE TO ME VARIOUS FAIRY TALES WHEN I WAS LITTLE. AND HE AND I TOOK TURNS TELLING EACH OTHER MADE UP BEDTIME STORIES EVERY NIGHT. IT WAS GOOD PRACTICE AND IT INSTILLED IN ME A LOVE OF ALL THINGS STORY RELATED. (WHICH IS WHY I LIKE MOVIES, TV SHOWS AND VIDEO GAMES JUST AS MUCH AS LITERATURE.) ODDLY ENOUGH THOUGH, I ALWAYS HATED PEOPLE READING BOOKS TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY. I EVEN HATED CLASS READING, I JUST WANTED TO READ THINGS AT MY PACE, MY WAY.

I MUST ADMIT I'M RATHER JELLY ABOUT YOUR LEATHER BOUND COLLECTION. I'VE GOT 8 LEATHER BOUNDS, WHICH ARE MY PRIDE AND JOY IN MY BOOK COLLECTION. WIND IN THE WILLOWS, THE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE AND THE LEGEND OF ARTHUR, AESOP'S FABLES, A BOUND UP THREE STORES ONE FROM EACH OF THE BRONTE SISTERS, GRIMM'S FAIRY TALES, HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN FAIRY TALES, THE ALICE IN WONDERLAND COMPLETE BIND UP AND ARABIAN NIGHTS. I WAS GOING TO GET THE H.G. WELLS COLLECTION AND THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GREY (WHY CAN'T I FIND AN OSCAR WILD COMPLETE BIND UP LEATHER BOUND?!) BUT I NEEDS TO CUT BACK ON MY BOOK SPENDING HABITS LOL.

SOCIAL ISOLATION? IF ANYTHING IT HAS INCREASED OUR INTERACTION WITH NOT JUST OUR FRIENDS BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD (LITERALLY.) IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME TYPE OF INTERACTION, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE AREN'T TALKING TO ONE AND OTHER. YOU AND I ARE HAVING A CONVERSION/DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, IN FACT, WITHOUT SEEING EACH OTHER. THE ONLY THING THAT IS DIFFERENT IS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WRITTEN ENGLISH RULES AS OPPOSED TO THE MORE RELAXED SPOKEN VERSION (THINGS LIKE SARCASM, TONE OF SPEECH ETC ARE JUST HARDER TO CONVEY IS ALL.) KIDS ACTUALLY HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARDS TO THE RULES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE COLLECTIVELY CREATED A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF SPEECH PATTERN CALLED "TEXT SPEAK." (REGARDLESS OF THE PRESCRIPTIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER'S RUMBLINGS.)
THE INTERNET HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT AND SPEED OF CHANGE TO THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, FOR BETTER OR WORSE.

TEENAGERS WILL JUST CUT THEMSELVES OFF INTO THEIR OWN LITTLE CLIQUES IS ALL. THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT. AND I QUESTION JUST HOW HEALTHY SOCIAL INTERACTION WAS BACK BEFORE TECHNOLOGY. OR IF APATHY EXPRESSED BY THE YOUTH WAS NEVER THERE BEFORE TECHNOLOGY. AT LEAST IF LITERATURE WRITTEN BY YOUNG PEOPLE FROM PREVIOUS GENERATIONS IS ANY INDICATION. *COUGH* THE OUTSIDERS BY S. E. HINTON *COUGH*
OR MY FATHER'S RECOLLECTION OF HIS DEPRESSION ERA CHILDHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE.

TECHNOLOGY HAS OPENED UP A WORLD OF LITERATURE FOR ME. BOOKTUBE HAS GIVEN ME SOME YA TITLES TO READ. SOME BOOKTUBERS HAVE GIVEN ME EXTENSIVE LISTS OF CLASSICS I HAVE NOT HEARD OF BECAUSE THEY ARE FOREIGN. GOODREADS HELPS ME DECIDE WHAT BOOKS I MIGHT BUY OR PIQUES MY CURIOSITY IN SOME CLASSICS DUE TO CONTROVERSY OR DEBATES (IE CHAUCER'S CANTERBURY TALES.) TV SHOWS SPARKED AN INTEREST IN FAIRY TALES, FROM SAMSALA GRIMM TEACHING YOUNG ME ABOUT PERSPECTIVE AND DIFFERENT ROLES IN STORIES, TO THE FAIRYTALER GIVING ME HCA TALES I DIDN'T OWN OR KNOW ABOUT. EVEN WISHBONE ENCOURAGED ME TO PICK UP CLASSICS.

I JUST DON'T SEE WHY TECHNOLOGY HAS TO BE THE BIG BAD WOLF IN TODAY'S YOUTHFUL ALOOFNESS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THE OLDER GENERATION JUST LIKES TO LAMENT ABOUT THE STATE OF YOUTH AND HOW "THINGS WERE BETTER BACK IN MY DAY." I'VE EVEN SEEN 90'S KIDS AND SOME EARLY MELLENIALS SAY THINGS LIKE THAT!!
 

Cephus

Relentlessly Rational
Once they gain a major share in population, they will try to eradicate other non-muslims. Because they have an agenda with in their Quran - make the whole world muslims!. They are moving with such a motive - intellectually, strategically, economically,population wise, etc,etc. Today's "peaceful islam" is tomorrows terror.

They are already trying that. It doesn't matter if you're talking about ISIS or Boko Haram or Al-Shabaab or any of the other fanatical religious groups, they will kill anyone they can that doesn't follow their particular religious beliefs. And it isn't limited to Muslims, there are plenty of Christian groups, like the one fighting in the CAR, out there who want the same thing. Same with the Buddhists in Myanmar. Religion is all potentially violent. It just takes them seeing a chance to get away with it.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
I MUST ADMIT I'M RATHER JELLY ABOUT YOUR LEATHER BOUND COLLECTION. I'VE GOT 8 LEATHER BOUNDS, WHICH ARE MY PRIDE AND JOY IN MY BOOK COLLECTION. WIND IN THE WILLOWS, THE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE AND THE LEGEND OF ARTHUR, AESOP'S FABLES, A BOUND UP THREE STORES ONE FROM EACH OF THE BRONTE SISTERS, GRIMM'S FAIRY TALES, HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN FAIRY TALES, THE ALICE IN WONDERLAND COMPLETE BIND UP AND ARABIAN NIGHTS. I WAS GOING TO GET THE H.G. WELLS COLLECTION AND THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GREY (WHY CAN'T I FIND AN OSCAR WILD COMPLETE BIND UP LEATHER BOUND?!) BUT I NEEDS TO CUT BACK ON MY BOOK SPENDING HABITS LOL.

I have all of those and many many more. Some are very oversized books which I adore such as The Egyptian Book of The Dead and Homer's books, Dante's and Milton's. I also have all of the Dune books, the entire Tolkien collection and a bunch more you would love. I am not a big fan of Bronte or Austin and I absolutely hate Faulkner but I have them. You might try The Eastern Press for the books you are interested in. That's where I got some of mine.
 
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