How Africa is being exploited by banking élites. How US Democrats are on the wrong side.

[TagliatelliMonster]

Unlike the hypocritical and incoherent Left-Wing, I want both wars to terminate today.

We all want that.
The problem is that the way you want it to terminate is by having the victims roll over and die without fighting back.

Whereas those warmongers want the Ukrainian War to continue until the last Ukrainian soldier is dead.

No. People who support Ukraine just aren't cowards who advocate for bending over with their pants down in the face of a bully.

 

[Estro Felino]

We all want that.
The problem is that the way you want it to terminate is by having the victims roll over and die without fighting back.

No, dear, the people who surrender will live.
Italians surrendered in 1943 and all lived. Unlike Germans who didn't surrender immediately.

No. People who support Ukraine just aren't cowards who advocate for bending over with their pants down in the face of a bully.

People who support Ukraine are people who hate Putin and want to use Ukrainians as cannon fodder to fight against him.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, dear, the people who surrender will live.
Italians surrendered in 1943 and all lived. Unlike Germans who didn't surrender immediately.

People who support Ukraine are people who hate Putin and wants use Ukrainians as cannon fodder to fight against him.

Yeah, that is not true.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yeah, that is not true.

Prove it.

 

[Estro Felino]

No. People who support Ukraine just aren't cowards who advocate for bending over with their pants down in the face of a bully.

If you are so brave, why don't you go to the steppe to fight against the Russians yourself?
It's easy to stay in Belgium and sending others to die...for a cause you believe in.
Very comfortable.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Prove it.

Yes, I support Ukraine, don't hate Putin and don't want Ukraine to fight Russia just to diminish Russia or use Ukrainians for cannon fodder for that.

I support Ukraine in its fight for freedom.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, I support Ukraine, don't hate Putin and don't want Ukraine to fight Russia just to diminish Russia or use Ukrainians for cannon fodder for that.

I support Ukraine in its fight for freedom.

So if they make a treaty of peace with Russians, would you agree?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So if they make a treaty of peace with Russians, would you agree?

If they make a peace treaty with Russia that both sides think is fair, I would agree.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If you are so brave, why don't you go to the steppe to fight against the Russians yourself?

I'm not a soldier.

It's easy to stay in Belgium and sending others to die...for a cause you believe in.

I don't know on which planet you live, but no country is sending any soldiers.
We are sending military aid.

Very comfortable.

Ukraine doesn't HAVE to fight. That's their own decision. I support and respect their decision.

 

[Estro Felino]

I'm not a soldier.



I don't know on which planet you live, but no country is sending any soldiers.
We are sending military aid.

That's a relief.
It means that Ukraine can never win...they are outnumbered.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That's a relief.
It means that Ukraine can never win...they are outnumbered.

Good to know you consider the idea of Ukraine losing a defensive war against an invading aggressor as being a "relief".
It shows your colors.

In any case, as I previously said, wars aren't just a matter of number of troops.
A single elite well equipped soldier will wipe the floor vs 50 untrained fruitcakes.

There's enough examples throughout history where armies that were outnumbered by even as much as 10 to 1 emerged victorious and had the opposing army completely annihilated.

In any case, I feel like Russia has already lost - even if they still "win".
A war that in their opinion should have been over in a matter of days / weeks, is still going on years later. The amount of land they conquered is still relatively low also. Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers were eliminated and more are being pulled through the meat grinder every single day. Diplomatically they have burned plenty of bridges, which will take them decades to rebuild. They have become an international pariah and that too will take decades to undo. So far, Russia has only lost things and gained nothing.

I mean, they are so desperate that they even need to resort to diplomatic relations with friggin' North Korea. How much more humiliating can it get, I wonder...

 

[Estro Felino]

Good to know you consider the idea of Ukraine losing a defensive war against an invading aggressor as being a "relief".
It shows your colors.

In any case, as I previously said, wars aren't just a matter of number of troops.
A single elite well equipped soldier will wipe the floor vs 50 untrained fruitcakes.

There's enough examples throughout history where armies that were outnumbered by even as much as 10 to 1 emerged victorious and had the opposing army completely annihilated.

In any case, I feel like Russia has already lost - even if they still "win".
A war that in their opinion should have been over in a matter of days / weeks, is still going on years later. The amount of land they conquered is still relatively low also. Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers were eliminated and more are being pulled through the meat grinder every single day. Diplomatically they have burned plenty of bridges, which will take them decades to rebuild. They have become an international pariah and that too will take decades to undo. So far, Russia has only lost things and gained nothing.

I mean, they are so desperate that they even need to resort to diplomatic relations with friggin' North Korea. How much more humiliating can it get, I wonder...

If the objective is to prevent Putin from conquering Kiev, the won.

If the objective is to invade Russia on behalf of the banking sewer who lives both in the EU and in the USA, they LOST.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If the objective is to prevent Putin from conquering Kiev, the won.

If the objective is to invade Russia on behalf of the banking sewer who lives both in the EU and in the USA, they LOST.

The objective is to kick russians back to russia and end russian aggression in their country

 

[Estro Felino]

The objective is to kick russians back to russia and end russian aggression in their country

Why are they invading Russia and Belarus then?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Why are they invading Russia and Belarus then?

First of all... Belarus? Really? Where did you hear that lie?

Secondly, there are lots of strategic reasons for Ukraine to bring the fight into Russia.
Like trying to force them to pull back troops from the front line into defense of Russian territory.
Also to put pressure on the Kremlin because now Russian citizens come face to face with the war also.
And last but not least, if and when negotiations would start, to put Ukraine in a better negotiating position, so that they too have something to "bargain" with.

From a military standpoint, it makes perfect sense to do this in response to the aggression they have been facing.